ULTRA cheap e-liquids / supplies.. anyone have any experience?

[ericdjobs]

So.. I found this searing around.. looks like a direct link to a manufacturer in china..

Here's the link (Safe, I Swear)

If you go to the bottom, you'll see the real goods.

1 liter if e-juice, minimum order of 1, $30-60!

You'll see tons of cartomizers, e-cigs themselves, etc etc etc.... but these almost exclusively have high order quantities needed. Hell, I saw Ego-T Starter kits $20/kit! That's with 2 batts, 2 atoms, carts etc etc..

50ml of e-liquid $3.. madvapes, the CHEAPEST place i know, charges $10.99 for this exact same thing.. I now see how much money suppliers in the e-cig industry are making! Holy cow!


But mainly, I was curious if anyone has experience doing business with Shanghai E-Cig Technology Inc.?

 

[hairball]

I bought a riva kit from them and specifically asked for a USA wall charger. I was sent one for use in another country.

 

[ericdjobs]

It's just everything I'm seeing is so ridiculously cheap...

I mean, 10 order quantity on eGo sure, but you could get 10 people who wanted an ego easy and at $20 a pop for an entire starter kit.. sure as hell would be worth it!

Lots of good suppliers it seems on that websites, most with very high minimum order quantity, but it seems to be quite easy to get in contact with each supplier... and as Heisenberg (aka walter white) always said.. "Name one thing in life that isn't negotiable?"

 

[Rickajho]

If I'm interpreting that site correctly "1 pack" is 135 units. The cost is $90 per unit aka bottle. That's 135 x $90.00 = $12,150.00. I could be wrong on that but there is so much there that is subject to interpretation.

It says you are buying "E-Liquid Nicotine: pure, 99 nicotine". Is that stuff 99% nicotine? Regardless it doesn't say what the concentration is in MG's per ML. It does state "Bioavailability 20 to 45% (oral)" As a consumer, can you even get stuff that strong imported into the country?

This looks like something only a pharmaceutical company or manufacturer could import.

Rick

 

[fforest]

The cheapest e-liquid I have seen from a normal supplier is Madvapes.

 

[mlinky]

If it is 99% nic, it is extraordinarily dangerous to ship and handle. Anyone who would sell it on the internet without the strongest possible warnings and precautions is so irresponsible, I wouldn't buy anything from them.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

If it is 99% nic, it is extraordinarily dangerous to ship and handle. Anyone who would sell it on the internet without the strongest possible warnings and precautions is so irresponsible, I wouldn't buy anything from them.

AMEN! No way in a thousand different hells would I buy from them. 99% nicotine hasn't been diluted down and I wouldn't even have it in my house! I think (someone please correct me if I'm wrong here) that you have to have special equipment to even handle it. No warnings on the site is a big red flag!

 

[Rickajho]

AMEN! No way in a thousand different hells would I buy from them. 99% nicotine hasn't been diluted down and I wouldn't even have it in my house! I think (someone please correct me if I'm wrong here) that you have to have special equipment to even handle it. No warnings on the site is a big red flag!

Yeah. But you have to read - and re-read - what's there and you still come away confused. Is it 99% pure - even 0 mg liquids can be 99% pure - or 99% nicotine? You can't really tell based on what is on that web site. The site it too confounding to even consider trying it.

Regardless, I'm not gonna try ordering it. Hey! Let's get Mikey to try it! He'll try anything! (Apologies to Quakers Oats...)

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Mods killed the link, now Mikey can't try anything! LOL!

 

[Dario]

So.. I found this searing around.. looks like a direct link to a manufacturer in china..

Here's the link (Safe, I Swear)
Last edited by UntamedRose; Today at 03:27 PM.

I'll just assume this link didn't meet some sort of approval. Now I'm very curious what site is was. Any name for the site? I can find it on my own.

 

[Rickajho]

Mods killed the link, now Mikey can't try anything! LOL!

Probably just as well. We don't need the likes of Mikey stroking out and drowning in their bowl of Life cereal. That would just be wrong.

 

[ericdjobs]

I'm curious as to why the link was removed, as well..

The site was Manufacturers, Suppliers, Exporters & Importers from the world's largest online B2B marketplace-Alibaba.com

which is a well known site for finding actual suppliers BASED in china, so you can avoid the middleman (the vendors) and work something out with the actual person making what you are buying.

I wasn't trying to tell people to buy 99% pure nicotine, I was using that as a starting place.. the REAL goods was the other stuff by the same vendor.. like 1 liter of 24mg e-juice for $30

Or eGo kits for $25/each, cartomizers for .23c each (This was from the Shenzen Boge company, you know, boge cartomizers)
510 batteries for $2
etc etc etc

Oh, and I did some leg-work and actually contacted a couple of the companies (They are all in China) who sell e-liquid and e-cig parts.. probably the majority of what all the vendors buy, and they are MORE than willing to sell sample packs, or small order quantities.. from what i've found talking to them the minimum order quantity is just to prevent them from CONSTANTLY sending out small amounts.

Here is the liter of e-juice E-Liquid 1 Liter products, buy E-Liquid 1 Liter products from alibaba.com

Here is a Joyetech eGo $11-14 per SET (Minimum order of 10) http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/450251159/Joyetech_Personal_Vaporizer_eGo.html?s=p Most vendors charge us $40+ for this exact same item!! Wtf!

Joyetech 510 kits (2 of everything, like most kits) $8-10 http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/463790865/2011_hot_selling_joyetech_510.html these are also $30+ at all vendors

Here is a Riva 510, with a Minimum order quantity of ONE!!! http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/455887265/510_riva.html $10-$14


What I found works the best, instead of using the actual alibaba site, is to find a vendor you want to deal with, and contact them and talk to them directly.. all the reps are very friendly and they almost all speak english fine.

If you look at the actual prices, VENDORS ARE RIPPING US OFF! We could form a co-op and purchase straight from the manufacturer in bulk!

So does anyone else actually try to buy stuff this way? This is how I usually do all my hobby purchasing, through the global market.. directly from china.. I don't like paying someone for basically just facilitating a transaction.

 

[RupertFranklyn]

If you look at the actual prices, VENDORS ARE RIPPING US OFF! We could form a co-op and purchase straight from the manufacturer in bulk!

Everyone has to make money... It's called doing business.

 

[ericdjobs]

Everyone has to make money... It's called doing business.

I understand this! But to see the sheer difference between the bulk price and what most vendors charge, you're talking just about DOUBLE most of the time! I expected maybe a $5-7 markup, but not double!

I understand money must be made, that's all great, I just wish to save myself the most possible.. as well as helping others do the same in the process.

That comment wasn't really meant as a jab at vendors, as many e-cig vendors have treated me great and even tho I paid more than double what I should have for my kit, I absolutely love it.

 

[Dario]

I understand this! But to see the sheer difference between the bulk price and what most vendors charge, you're talking just about DOUBLE most of the time! I expected maybe a $5-7 markup, but not double!

I understand money must be made, that's all great, I just wish to save myself the most possible.. as well as helping others do the same in the process.

That comment wasn't really meant as a jab at vendors, as many e-cig vendors have treated me great and even tho I paid more than double what I should have for my kit, I absolutely love it.

I agree and I'm with you on this but be careful making claims like that. These kits and other stuff you linked to are so cheap even by comparison to other China vendors it seems almost too good to be true. I encourage skepticism with anything like this. I'll order something from them just for curiosity.

 

[judybr]

The one thing I wonder is, what about shipping costs from there. and we have suppliers here that offer really good warranties. Some people do make orders direct from China to save money but if shipping is high a warranty would be difficult for the back and forth shipping costs...
And how do we know who is reputable.

 

[ericdjobs]

Yeah I agree with all the above mentioned problems... it is a risky business, and after reading several other threads on this exact subject throughout these forums, I realize that now..

It's simple not cost with customs/shipping... shipping is anywhere from $10-$50.. usually $50 haha.. even for 5-10!

I might give it a shot simply for the fact that I plan on trying to become a brick and mortar e-cig supplier.. trying to convince all the tobacco shops to start sellin' e-cigs.. and I want to be the one supplying them

 

[RupertFranklyn]

Here is a link for a 40% off sale on unflavored nicotine juice, seems like a good deal. "while supplies last"
Our Unflavored Smoke Juice (Nic. Juice, Nicotine Juice) - My Freedom Smokes

 

[CdnBison]

Yes, you are talking about double the price. But that doesn't include the shipping paid or the vendors time put in to finding and ordering kits, maintaining their website (and possibly storefront), or time put in to customer service.

I know I paid more at my vendor of choice for my last kit, and I'm ok with that - they've treated me well, had excellent customer service and generally be good deal with. If the money I spend with them helps keep them in business, good.

So, it's not that you paid "double what you *should* have", it's that you didn't pay the wholesale price. The rest of that cost goes into having someone you can go back to and deal with should your purchase not be operational / not function the way it should.

 

[hankbizzo5]

The link was removed most likely for the fact it is a site that sells 1000mg nic and that is frowned on here at ecf..... Anyone who would even conciser a purchase of 1000mg better be aware 1 drip could be DEADLY..... If it was a site with a name that has something -cig in it that was a ecf ban site.....