Ultrasonic test results of authentic mod revealed ripoff

[crxess]

I think with a little effort we can find flaws in most of our Mods, regardless of Origin or manufacturer. Yes Production line Mods will show a higher rate of inaccuracy in numbers.......though not necessarily in percentages.

I feel people draw to many assumption about other countries due to our upbringing and IDEALS, which are nice but only Fly in our own country. Sure you can point out Child labor in China........ AS WELL AS many many other countries.

Claiming such things as poor quality metals, etc. without acquiring specific samples and doing proper testing is HOG WASH.

Yes I have a cheap aluminum bodied telescoping mod that is just shy of Junk, but only cost $12 and still works.
I also have a pair of sigelei 8w Mods, 18350 & 18650 that have a good bit of time on them. They show no signs of Metal fatigue or wear what so ever. Both are actually extremely solid devices and should easily out last me.

People, not countries make Crappy products - Companies and consumers decide just how cheaply things will be made.

Okay, I'm done. Got riled and over stayed my welcome again.

Vape Safe and Enjoy!

 

[VaPreis]

well i just say it.
i will bet anyone that about 80% or more of so called authentic's being sold on
the used sales forums are not authentics.
compare this to he market of buying used body piercings.
regards
mike

Ewww.

That's a market?

 

[funkfist]

Ewww.

That's a market?

Yes there is a market for used body jewely. From high end manufactures and for things that aren't made anymore. You can have jewelry autoclaved at any reputable piercing parlor.

 

[roxynoodle]

Well, I don't have enough experience yet as a vaper to comment. However, I have nearly 5 decades of experience buying parrot cages. All the wrought iron or SS used in any currently made cage comes from China. I have 2 Chinese made SS cages. I've run some tests to ensure they are 304 SS, and they pass. I'm happy with them, and feel they are safe for my birds.

I only use SS attys. Not brass, not copper, not chrome plated brass. No, I haven't gone from smoking to being a health freak, but I'm hoping I at least am minmizing my risk this way.

Does anyone manufacture steel besides China now? I grew up in Cleveland and the steel mills shut down when I was a kid. Assembled in the US means just that. I'm not sure we actually produce any metal anymore.

Oh, and extruded acrylic sure costs a lot more than cast does. I suspect extruded metal rod isn't cheap either.

 

[beckdg]

Update. I just got a PM naming the mod in question. I don't believe it's my prerogative to name that mod. Though I'd like to see the OP be forthcoming with it so we might be able to put an end to this charade and it may serve as a warning to people down the road.

 

[stevegmu]

Well, I don't have enough experience yet as a vaper to comment. However, I have nearly 5 decades of experience buying parrot cages. All the wrought iron or SS used in any currently made cage comes from China. I have 2 Chinese made SS cages. I've run some tests to ensure they are 304 SS, and they pass. I'm happy with them, and feel they are safe for my birds.

I only use SS attys. Not brass, not copper, not chrome plated brass. No, I haven't gone from smoking to being a health freak, but I'm hoping I at least am minmizing my risk this way.

Does anyone manufacture steel besides China now? I grew up in Cleveland and the steel mills shut down when I was a kid. Assembled in the US means just that. I'm not sure we actually produce any metal anymore.

Oh, and extruded acrylic sure costs a lot more than cast does. I suspect extruded metal rod isn't cheap either.

Yes, the US still produces a lot of steel. So does Japan and Europe...

 

[eyerhere]

Wow I am surprised this thread didn't get shut down. Oh what fun!

 

[Alien Traveler]

Wow I am surprised this thread didn't get shut down. Oh what fun!

Let me second it.

 

[bcalvanese]

Yo... OP...

either post the manufacturer, name of the mod, and what the exact issue is.

Or...

stop wasting everyone's time already.

The only thing I'm getting here is...

I work with electronics
I know about metal
I purchased a mod that is not milled
I'm not going to tell anyone what mod it is, or who the manufacturer is.
People are asking for specifics, but I'm not going to tell them.
Oh... and I know about metal.

 

[qorax]

I own many hi-end vaping devices, I proto-test many of them, I review quiet a few, AND I tend to concur with most of what the OP has stated.

My few cents!

 

[Alien Traveler]

I own many hi-end vaping devices, I proto-test many of them, I review quiet a few, AND I tend to concur with most of what the OP has stated.

My few cents!

Sorry, but it's too few cents.
Can I ask you to be a bit more specific?

 

[Ryedan]

I am an electronics engineer by trade, but I work with heavy machinery that is built to extremely close tolerances. Therefore, I know metals.
After purchasing an authentic (to avoid arguments with others I will not name the mod) I suspected, right out of the box, that it was an extruded, rather than milled, tube.

I happen to have access to some phased array test sets. Sure enough, not only was it extruded, but it was also micro spalled.

There is a HUGE difference between US and European metal certs and Chinese certs. Not only in quality and price, but in composition as well.
I do not want to heat, then inhale air that has crossed any metal that was worked in China, nor should anyone else. Never mind the fact the builder made false claims about the quality and source of his materials.

I do not buy clones, and I personally feel that once you copy a logo, its no longer a clone, it's theft. This is worse.

Many of latest batch of modders are frankly charging stupid sums. Anything more than $170 for a tube mod with three tubes is overpriced, but if someones wants to pay it, good for them.

But the whole point of authentics is quality, and to not provide it is a ripoff. I strongly suspect that more than half of the companies that are less than two years old, and charge over $200 are guilty of this.

I so rarely do this on a forum, but in this case I felt this to be extremely appropriate;

 

[smokinGAVIN]

Why can't we all just agree that we don't agree with each other. It is possible to have a healthy debate with out any sarcasm or bold and capital letters that imply anger of frustration with someone else. I know this is a forum and you may express your opinion and what you believe as fact but it can be done in a nice and civilised way.

 

[LMS62]

Why can't we all just agree that we don't agree with each other. It is possible to have a healthy debate with out any sarcasm or bold and capital letters that amply anger of frustration with someone else. I know this is a forum and you may express your opinion and what you believe as fact but it can be done in a nice and civilised way.

Good point, however, when it comes to the internet many people behave quite differently than they would in person.

 

[edyle]

Yo... OP...

either post the manufacturer, name of the mod, and what the exact issue is.

Or...

stop wasting everyone's time already.

The only thing I'm getting here is...

I work with electronics
I know about metal
I purchased a mod that is not milled
I'm not going to tell anyone what mod it is, or who the manufacturer is.
People are asking for specifics, but I'm not going to tell them.
Oh... and I know about metal.

I agree.
The only reason to not mention the product or supplier HERE in the general-vaping-discussion forum is because the supplier cannot respond HERE in which case, the post should be made in the supplier forum and I guess it can be linked to here. And if the supplier in question does not have a forum here, then there's no problem.

 

[monkey39]

I like Chinese food
Chinese food originated in China
China makes stainless steel
I like Chinese stainless steel

DROP THE MIC AND WALK AWAY...

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

I like Chinese food
Chinese food originated in China
China makes stainless steel
I like Chinese stainless steel

DROP THE MIC AND WALK AWAY...

But Fortune Cookies are American! Do you like them too?

 

[monkey39]

But Fortune Cookies are American! Do you like them too?

Meh, only to read the fortune and add "...in bed" at the end. Satisfies my internal 10 year old! [emoji12]

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[unsure]

Back to the original topic:

I paid extra for a mod that was to be built when certain materials using certain methods for my own reasons.

The product delivered to me did not meet this criteria.

I think thatNy of the newer companies are like this....as a matter of fact, from now on, I am going to be suspicious of any non telescoping mod that costs more than $200.


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Well tho I understand little all this techno garble and I don't want to make light of something I don't understand....... I don't have to worry because all my mods are wood.

 

[PapaSloth]

Why can't we all just agree that we don't agree with each other. It is possible to have a healthy debate with out any sarcasm or bold and capital letters that imply anger of frustration with someone else. I know this is a forum and you may express your opinion and what you believe as fact but it can be done in a nice and civilised way.

DON'T YOU OPPRESS ME!!!1!

Seriously though, you make a point.