University of Rochester study - Today show.

[redddog]

Anyone see that this Saturday?

My wife did and is now worried. Can someone point me to the debunk on this?

Sorry if this is the same study results already covered in another thread. I have not seen the U of R study mentioned here so I thought I'd ask about this one specifically.

www. today .com/health/new-study-links-e-cigarettes-lung-cancer-2D80480227

Thanks guys.

 

[LaraC]

A good thread to look at is:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...909-new-study-vapor-immune-response-mice.html

 

[redddog]

Crap. I hope I didn't double post on this.

I was under the impression that this Rochester study was freshly released and I didn't see any mention of U of R in that previous thread.

 

[philoshop]

I haven't taken the time to run it down, but I'd be willing to bet the study was funded by a pharmaceutical company, with general instructions as to what the findings should look like. UR Med is a great institution doing some great research in a number of areas. My niece works there and I'm very proud of her. But the money being tossed around today to find fault in vaping is staggering and very hard to turn down, and quite honestly, the researchers haven't been very successful at either.

 

[Bunnykiller]

once again another "test" to find fault with vaping.... no real info on the proceedures, concentrations, and to boot the interviewer just had to throw in the blurb on flavors and kids..... if one is going to make scientific claims, be prepared to show the scientific results.... not some generalized points that MAY prove that vaping MAY cause issues.... they never said that it does, will..... and the bit about inhaling metals from vaping?? what about welders and machinists, they inhale tons of metals but you never hear about that do you??.... very slanted view points as far as attacking the Vape....

 

[Lessifer]

here is the study itself:
http:// journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0116732#pone-0116732-g002
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I haven't seen any responses yet. I took a quick read through and from a layman's POV they neglected to state what voltage they used(device was a twist type battery), and they have some weird ideas of what "dripping" is, from what I can tell they placed a single drop on an exposed protank head and fired it.

 

[Painter_]

One thing that their expert said that I thought was strange is that they found more "free radicals" in the flavored ones than in the regular tobacco flavored ones. Humm, in order to get a eliquid to taste like tobacco they are adding flavorings. Inquiring minds want to know how this happens...

 

[Painter_]

At the end she said that we will have more information once the regulations are put in place.

 

[DC2]

At the end she said that we will have more information once the regulations are put in place.

 

[Lessifer]

I think the voltage being applied to the coil, and the resulting temperature, are again going to be key here. In the Figures of the actual study they show some pictures of a glowing red protank coil, which is supposed to be 2.2 ohm, when fired for 1 second(I think).

 

[DrMA]

I think the voltage being applied to the coil, and the resulting temperature, are again going to be key here. In the Figures of the actual study they show some pictures of a glowing red protank coil, which is supposed to be 2.2 ohm, when fired for 1 second(I think).

I'm almost certain these dilettantes think the coil is glowing red hot during normal use and that's how these tests are done.

 

[Lessifer]

I'm almost certain these dilettantes think the coil is glowing red hot during normal use and that's how these tests are done.

me too, especially with their description of "dripping"

It doesn't seem to dawn on them that one of the purposes of dripping is so that you can ensure that your wick/coil are fully saturated prior to vaping, instead of relying on the wicking method of your tank/clearo/carto, and that it's actually ideal to keep both the wick and coil fully saturated...

 

[DrMA]

They even published a picture of how they set the ecig on fire. See Figure 1 Panel C

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0116732.g001

 

[kosst amojan]

WTH? Burnt hit from hell.

Gotta love my alta mater.