http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/research/2014/152-world-survey
Characteristics, side effects and benefits of electronic cigarette use: a worldwide survey of more than 19,000 users has been submitted for publication
Update on Dr Farsalinos Study
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Characteristics, side effects and benefits of electronic cigarette use: a worldwide survey of more than 19,000 users has been submitted for publication
Lets see how they argue it's not an effective smoking cessation product now & lets hope this is presented before the TPD is voted.
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"To give you an idea about the results, 81% reported that they had completely substituted smoking with e-cigarette use, while the rest reduced cigarette consumption from a median of 20 to 4 cigarettes per day."
Yay go Dr Farsalinos
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"To give you an idea about the results, 81% reported that they had completely substituted smoking with e-cigarette use, while the rest reduced cigarette consumption from a median of 20 to 4 cigarettes per day."
Yay go Dr Farsalinos
Pleasure Uma 
Those are just phenomenal quitting figures though,so how can they ignore this ?
They should be heralding ecigs as the greatest health break-through of the 21st century,& subsidising them!!!
given the money spent on smoking related diseases,but no!! they dont WANT a cure,
cures dont equate to B.P BT & governmental profits(tax),& the rest.
Shhhhh!
don't rant (again) 
Those are just phenomenal quitting figures though,so how can they ignore this ?
They should be heralding ecigs as the greatest health break-through of the 21st century,& subsidising them!!!
given the money spent on smoking related diseases,but no!! they dont WANT a cure,
cures dont equate to B.P BT & governmental profits(tax),& the rest.
Shhhhh!
don't rant (again) 
Well, to be fair, it's a self-selected survey answered by enthusiasts.
But these positive results are mounting up and will eventually create enough material that is hard to ignore. At this point it is probably fair to say that informed medics are now in favour of ecigs, and those against are a mix of those with commercial COIs or hardline religious views etc. So perhaps this kind of material will be useful to persuade legislators with. Policymakers are generally owned by the giant commercial interests so are a waste of time to appeal to (pharma places their own man in charge of the FDA, for example).
Luckily the policy makers don't have it all their own way due to the mounting number of voters who don't like the idea of being persecuted simply for wanting to stay alive and healthy. Let's try and do even better in that department.
But these positive results are mounting up and will eventually create enough material that is hard to ignore. At this point it is probably fair to say that informed medics are now in favour of ecigs, and those against are a mix of those with commercial COIs or hardline religious views etc. So perhaps this kind of material will be useful to persuade legislators with. Policymakers are generally owned by the giant commercial interests so are a waste of time to appeal to (pharma places their own man in charge of the FDA, for example).
Luckily the policy makers don't have it all their own way due to the mounting number of voters who don't like the idea of being persecuted simply for wanting to stay alive and healthy. Let's try and do even better in that department.
I have to agree with Roly. However, the quitting rates are improving even among those that are just initiating use. They're seeing more people using APVs and asking questions. I still see some just not "getting it" as far as how much nicer vaping is that smoking but I look at dual use as favorable because it gives them time to transition.
Yes. With an entirely new disruptive technology with multiple attractions, I believe dual-use is an extremely positive factor.
My own experience: I had no intention of giving up smoking. Someone gave me some ecigs, they sat on my desk, I used them a bit, sometimes I'd substitute a vape for a smoke. Over time I got frustrated with the minis of that time and got a 5v boxmod, which was about the best you could get then. Then I got another. Then I was only smoking once a day; then once a week.
One day I realised I hadn't smoked in ages and actually didn't know when that was. Haven't smoked a cigarette in years. It took months for it to work with me, but as I said, I had no intention of giving up smoking and absolutely intended to remain a cigarette smoker. (Though I still smoke the occasional cigar, because there is nothing really like the dinner-coffee-brandy-cigar thing).
Dual-use is a winner. At least, when you're talking about ecigs. It doesn't seem to have gone too badly in Sweden, either: male smoking prevalence will be 5% around 2016 there - beat that.
My own experience: I had no intention of giving up smoking. Someone gave me some ecigs, they sat on my desk, I used them a bit, sometimes I'd substitute a vape for a smoke. Over time I got frustrated with the minis of that time and got a 5v boxmod, which was about the best you could get then. Then I got another. Then I was only smoking once a day; then once a week.
One day I realised I hadn't smoked in ages and actually didn't know when that was. Haven't smoked a cigarette in years. It took months for it to work with me, but as I said, I had no intention of giving up smoking and absolutely intended to remain a cigarette smoker. (Though I still smoke the occasional cigar, because there is nothing really like the dinner-coffee-brandy-cigar thing).
Dual-use is a winner. At least, when you're talking about ecigs. It doesn't seem to have gone too badly in Sweden, either: male smoking prevalence will be 5% around 2016 there - beat that.
I introduced one of my employees to vaping. He has reduced his cigarette consumption by 75%. He for now, still enjoys a couple of cigs per day. I think every time he vapes instead of burning one, he is far better off. Only Glantz and the "others" see this as a problem. I cant possibly comprehend their logic, that because he is still smoking, he hasn't reduced his harm level any.
I introduced one of my employees to vaping. He has reduced his cigarette consumption by 75%. He for now, still enjoys a couple of cigs per day. I think every time he vapes instead of burning one, he is far better off. Only Glantz and the "others" see this as a problem. I cant possibly comprehend their logic, that because he is still smoking, he hasn't reduced his harm level any.
The reason you can't comprehend their logic is because it's incomprehensible.
Roly, the Swedes have the perfect harm reduction product, Swedish snus, in every imaginable variety. I feel lucky that we have a few General brands available at select convenience stores and my favorite, General Mint, is one of them. However, the decades of propaganda about smokeless has pretty well eliminated anything other than e cigs as a viable alternative to smoking for most Americans and the situation is worse in Europe with those bureaucratic fools. However, it really isn't at all about health, is it?
The ANTZ can and will ignore it. You know their motto "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story"
I've lived it for years with the 2nd amendment ANTZ
I've lived it for years with the 2nd amendment ANTZ
Only Glantz and the "others" see this as a problem. I cant possibly comprehend their logic, that because he is still smoking, he hasn't reduced his harm level any.
Glantz is pimping the idea that we're all smoking as much as we were before and using e-cigs to increase our nicotine intake by vaping in places we can't smoke - total BS of course, but people are believing him.
It's uncanny how much that fight resembles our own. The fed gov can't do anything, so the states jump in and ban it town by town, til there are ao many polkadots on the world atlas you can't see land. Just change the subject of smoke free to 2nd amendment free. They also use fear mongering, propaganda, media bias, junk science, exaggerated politicians... The same..
Somehow, we all need to join together no matter our own self righteous opinions on the subject, and fight for our constitution. 2nd, 4th, 9 th, & 14th are the worst hit, but so are the rest.
Lets see how they argue it's not an effective smoking cessation product now & lets hope this is presented before the TPD is voted.
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"To give you an idea about the results, 81% reported that they had completely substituted smoking with e-cigarette use, while the rest reduced cigarette consumption from a median of 20 to 4 cigarettes per day."
Yay go Dr Farsalinos
81% effective? Yay go us!
I believe proper procedure is that once the study has been submitted for publication and is being peer reviewed, the authors will not release it independently. Probably the most that Dr. Farsalinos can say is what he says in his newsletter. We'll have to wait....
As AgentAnia indicated, this study has not yet been released. However, Dr. Farsolinos has released another study on 2/13/14. I have started another thread with a link to the study..
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/527426-new-study-dr-farsalinos.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/527426-new-study-dr-farsalinos.html
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