Using a natural fibre as a wick in e-cigarettes

[EvilGrym]

Hi, people!

I were vaping for a year on a different serviceble atomizers using a siliceous thread as a wick, but all the time I used this
material I was feeling some slight pain at my throat and Adam's apple.

Not long ago I bought microscope for my son and wached this thread. Things I saw has frightened me.
Short needles from the wick. Some time later I discussed this problem at eCigTalk.ru in this thread (lucky people who know Russian ) And founded that such simpthoms are not so rare around the vapers.

I suggesteg to use a medical bandage fibre (cotton threads) instead of siliceous thread. Experiments and further expluatation of organical wicks has poved it's usability. By some parameters, such as amount of vapour it beats standart wicks. For now there are at least 63 vapers actively using organic wicks and totally satisfied with result.



Now we are actively working to find most siutable fibres for organik wicks.

Lifetime of organick wick varies from 1 to more than 14 days, depending on device, voltage, wick wetting metod. Longest times are on tanks and drips.

Not long ago another one comrade from ecigtalk made his own laboratory study of siliceous thread atomizers (serviceble and factory-made). His results proved my hipothesa about needles in vapour. All atomizers he studied were producing theese needles.

After moving to organical wick all simthoms of needles in throat (and lungs) are gone.

 

[Caridwen]

Welcome!

I don't have an issue with wick material but I do know that some members do. This is very interesting. When you have 5 posts, check out the modding section.

Atomizer Mods

 

[imsoenthused]

The standard seems to be stainless steel mesh wicks at this point for people looking for something clean and safe. If you manage to burn a natural fiber wick, you are inhaling carcinogens, which is kind of why I stopped smoking.

 

[EvilGrym]

The standard seems to be stainless steel mesh wicks at this point for people looking for something clean and safe. If you manage to burn a natural fiber wick, you are inhaling carcinogens, which is kind of why I stopped smoking.

Stainless mesh is already gone in russia. It's not so good as it seems at a first glance. Some of our comrades manage to use one wick for more than a week. the only thing is to keep it wet enough.
Just remember how mani organic fiber you burned & inhale when smoke. Using organic wick gives you another king of smoke in case of burning. Cotton fiber does not consist that tar which you inhale when smoke. Do you afraid to pass by the fire? Or barbeque? I think not. And if you keep your wick wet enought it does not burn at all.

Yes, after some time it becomes black, but mesh does so and cilica wick too.

 

[mccawley]

Never Ever look at things under a microscope that you plan to eat, drink, or vape in this instance.

But seriously, Kinda scary.

 

[EvilGrym]

Never Ever look at things under a microscope that you plan to eat, drink, or vape in this instance.
But seriously, Kinda scary.

But if you plan to eat something - you push it into your organism in right way through your mouth. And you use all protecting mechanisms of your body. But in case of smoking (or inhaling anything) like you vape (or smoke) you refuse at least a half your protecting mechanisms.

What kind of wicks are you using?

 

[imsoenthused]

Stainless mesh is already gone in russia. It's not so good as it seems at a first glance. Some of our comrades manage to use one wick for more than a week. the only thing is to keep it wet enough.
Just remember how mani organic fiber you burned & inhale when smoke. Using organic wick gives you another king of smoke in case of burning. Cotton fiber does not consist that tar which you inhale when smoke. Do you afraid to pass by the fire? Or barbeque? I think not. And if you keep your wick wet enought it does not burn at all.

Yes, after some time it becomes black, but mesh does so and cilica wick too.

Burning organics produce tar and carcinogens, as well as carbon monoxide. I'm not afraid of fireplaces or barbecues, but I also don't inhale them in the volume that I vape on a daily basis. Not saying it's not usable, just wanted to mention the reason I won't be using it.

 

[mda71]

Very interesting. I was wondering about the wicks we use in rebuildable attys or premade items such as ce2, cartos ect.

Finding any wick that doesn't release needle-like fibers into my lung and/or throat would be nice. I am not saying the current wick we use releases any needle-like fibers. I am just not sure if anyone knows whether it does or does not.

 

[elfstone]

OK, seriously: does anybody really know why stainless steel mesh is not good / safe? I only find semi-reliable info that seems to say it's awesome, great, amazing. I wonder why would we not use SS mesh?

 

[imsoenthused]

It's not great for mass production because it takes some fiddling to get it working right, because it has to be properly oxidized and burned in. Other than that, no reason not to use SS mesh, especially if you are concerned about the particulates in fiberglass and silica wicks.

 

[BigBulli]

OK, seriously: does anybody really know why stainless steel mesh is not good / safe? I only find semi-reliable info that seems to say it's awesome, great, amazing. I wonder why would we not use SS mesh?

Its a pain to have to oxidise it, get a coil made, have a short, and than be forced to start over. Imo its too much of a hassle to get it just right everytime I need a new wick/coil.

Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using Tapatalk

 

[EvilGrym]

SS mesh is hard to use and takes a lot of time to make it work. It clogges up as any other wick. Organic wick gives you ability of fast replacement at dramatically low cost.
Some people of our community exeprimeted with bamboo yarn - results were similar to cotton fibers.

I suggest volunteers to test the organic fiber wick ( cotton fibers from bandage or bamboo yarn) and tell here about testing result. Fоr test you need a serviceble atty ofcourse. Or you can make a testing device like shown on the video in first post.

 

[Retriever]

Strange video. I thought I would be seeing these "needles". Maybe hemp would be good. I have read that it would be great for making clothing, etc., but the legislators are afraid of it, as it is a cousin to .........

 

[sailorman]

You can get hemp fibers and clothing in the U.S. You just can't grow it here.
They'd rather let Canadian farmers make all the money.
It's absolutely wonderful stuff. You should give it a try.
I have a hemp shirt and a pair of hemp sandals that are as comfortable as they are indestructible.
If they weren't, Maybe I'd try to use some fibers from them for a wick!
Anything cotton can do, hemp can do 100X better, longer and with less water and pesticides.
That's half the reason we can't grow it here. You know the other half.

 

[EvilGrym]

Maybe hemp would be good

hemp is not good, already tested.

 

[EvilGrym]

...with less water and pesticides.

I think pesticides are washed away during fiber manufacturing process. Try some cotton or bamboo while your shirt is ok.

 

[EvilGrym]

Just made a test of continuous heating of cotton wick. Watch the result.

 

[Diver]

Very interesting .
How the experiment goes ?

 

[EvilGrym]

Very interesting .
How the experiment goes ?

It's not an experiment. It's an alternative way to vape.

Organics is actively in use since 26 dec 2011 (in Russia).
First positive replyes from US since april 2012.

 

[sailorman]

I think pesticides are washed away during fiber manufacturing process. Try some cotton or bamboo while your shirt is ok.

You are right. The pesticides are washed away. What I meant was hemp takes less pesticide to grow.
I guess I should have said, anything cotton can do, except make an atomizer, hemp can do 100X better....