Using The Direct E-Cig.. Anyone Know Of Compatible Batteries / Atties?

[Technonut]

Hello all.. I'm new to vaping, and purchased the Direct E-Cig. ( Don't worry, I used my PayPal debit card, and won't get rooked into the "small print" automatic re-order I just found out about... )

The unit does work well going by my limited knowledge.. The 5 volt battery lasts a long time, and I get a nice amount of vapor.

My primary question is does anyone know where to purchase additional 5 volt batteries and attys for this unit besides Direct E-Cig for a less expensive price? I did use the search feature here, and on Google.. I read about other companies saying they had a battery that would work, BUT.. It was NOT a 5 volt battery like I have, but lesser voltage. I didn't see a thing mentioned about comparable attys..

Any help would be appreciated...

 

[5cardstud]

I'd have to put a meter on them to see if they're 5 volt. Thats the smallest 5 volt battery I've seen. But I don't know where to get one. They look like smoke stik batteries.

 

[Technonut]

I'd have to put a meter on them to see if they're 5 volt. Thats the smallest 5 volt battery I've seen. But I don't know where to get one. They look like smoke stik batteries.

Thanks for the quick reply 5cardstud... Hmmmmm.. I think I have a voltmeter around here somewhere.. Where would I touch the leads to get a reading? It would be interesting to monitor the voltage from a full charge, then along the way down until the tip blinks for the low battery...

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

You could throw money at what you have (like so many others including myself,and regret it later) or just get yourself an eGo. If you really want to stick with something that resembles a cigarette get yourself a nice 510 starter kit. A little searching through this awesome forum will point you in the right direction for under $50 *cough*LikeThe$25StarterKitsAt tastyvapor.us

 

[Technonut]

I just looked at the specs on the wall charger that came with the Direct E-Cig... The ouput IS 5 volts....

Thanks for the reply JonnyVapE... I was thinking seriously about going the eGo route after finding that I enjoy vaping with the Direct E-Cig.. I still may, but from what I've been reading, alot of folks seem to like to use 5 volts as a "sweet-spot", and even go as far as modding stuff to do it. It appears that this one is 5 volts, and it would be nice to have an extra battery and atty for it at a less expensive price if I can find them.. If not, I probably will purchase an eGo kit with two batteries..

I am curious how well this thing will work with dripping though... I need to find some juice that closely mimics Marlboro reds...

 

[Twist]

All USB chargers have 5v output. That's the standard for .. uh, the USB standard.

 

[Technonut]

All USB chargers have 5v output. That's the standard for .. uh, the USB standard.

I was not aware that lower voltage batteries would take a 5 volt output charge when plugged into a wall charger. Wouldn't the voltage be stepped-down to whatever the battery is rated at.. ie: 3.7 volts? I would think that any higher input voltage than speced would damage the battery...

 

[LowThudd]

3.7v batts are typically charged at 4.2v. Are you reading 5v on the charger it's self? Or the ac/USB adapter? All AC/USB adapters are rated at 5v.

 

[Technonut]

The actual wall charger output is 5 volts.. I never had it charge from a USB port yet...

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

You don't have to shy away from the 3.7 volt gear even if you've gotten a bit spoiled on 5 volts (like so many of us have). There are low resistance atomizers and cartomizers that can make up the difference pretty well. I've actually settled on some 'medium' resistance 510 cartomizers from MadVapes that are around 2.5 ohms (low resistance are typically around 1.7 ohm) and have a good happy medium between battery life and vapor/flavor.

Additionally, there are small voltage regulators in the chargers. USB chargers and ports used for charging are all 5 volts nominal. Unless you put a meter on your battery you really don't know for sure what you're vaping on. Also, some batteries, especially the small stick type made to resemble an analog, have a tendancy to drop voltage under load.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Battery voltages are dependant on the type (and chemistry) of the battery its based on. Lithium ions, the most common type used in e-cigs, are around 3.7v (fully charged they read 4.2v unloaded). Circuitry on e-cig batteries may regulate them down from this (e.g. to 3.2v) so they give a more consistent output through all states of charge. The only 5v batteries I've seen myself have been some custom packs made up of Ni-Mh cells (4 x 1.2v). The cynic in me thinks that unless there is some novel battery type involved its unlikely these are 5v batteries. It could be just a method of locking in customers who could otherwise buy replacement parts for a lot less through other suppliers.

 

[Technonut]

I have a digital multimeter... I can't figure out how to get a reading out of it.. I can't see a company advertising a 5 volt battery like they do if it's not... If someone could tell me where to put the leads for a reading, I will know for sure..

From the Direct E-Cig site:

5 Volt long lasting batteries
(most batteries on the market today are 3.5 to 3.7 volts which have shorter charge times, shorter life spans and produce much less vapor)

Battery voltages are dependant on the type (and chemistry) of the battery its based on. Lithium ions, the most common type used in e-cigs, are around 3.7v (fully charged they read 4.2v unloaded). Circuitry on e-cig batteries may regulate them down from this (e.g. to 3.2v) so they give a more consistent output through all states of charge. The only 5v batteries I've seen myself have been some custom packs made up of Ni-Mh cells (4 x 1.2v). The cynic in me thinks that unless there is some novel battery type involved its unlikely these are 5v batteries. It could be just a method of locking in customers who could otherwise buy replacement parts for a lot less through other suppliers.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

The positive (red) probe goes on the central connector, the black on the outer thread. The battery needs to be activated - if its a manual press the button, an automatic this might be difficult though.

 

[Technonut]

The positive (red) probe goes on the central connector, the black on the outer thread. The battery needs to be activated - if its a manual press the button, an automatic this might be difficult though.

That's the problem... It's an automatic battery.

 

[LowThudd]

That's the problem... It's an automatic battery.

Blow on the LED end. That will actvate it.

 

[JonnyVapΣ]

Blow on the LED end. That will actvate it.

Yep. That should do the trick.

 

[Technonut]

Blow on the LED end. That will actvate it.

This one is not activated by blowing on the LED tip or noise... It only activates while drawn on. I recently purchased a Cig2o at the only place in the area that sells E-Cigs.. I already knew it is basically a rebranded KR808D-1, and could have been purchased as such less expensively online, but it was worth it to me to purchase locally. I'm glad I did because one of the included batteries had a defective pressure switch, and I was able to quickly exchange the kit.

I am VERY happy with the Cig2o.. Lot's of vapor, good throat hit, the battery lasts a long time, and an extra one was included to have on stand-by.

One thing I noticed... The battery from the Direct E-Cig is about the same size as the Cig2o, but a little beefier, and heavier. The output voltage on the AC wall charger of the Cig2o is 4.7 volts compared to the 5 volts of the Direct E-Cig. The Direct E-Cig has a much longer charge time (Until the LED is green) compared to the Cig2o.

With all of the knock-offs of most other E-Cig brands, and parts interchange, I'm begining to think the Direct E-Cig must be a unique design, and quite possibly truly a 5 volt unit. I have Google searched until my eyes hurt, and I've yet to find any comparable batteries or atomizers of another brand that will work.

I will post close-up pics of the Direct E-Cig battery and atomizer later today.. Perhaps maybe someone will be able to help me figure this out better that way..

 

[Technonut]

Here are the pics... The Direct E-Cig atty is numbered KA0626... A Google search found no atty info for this. If anyone knows of a battery and atty that is comparable for a less expensive price than Direct E-Cig, please let me know..

 

[FeistyAlice]

The Direct e cig is a Classic 4081. Aquavaporcig.com has parts for it including a cartomizer. I've ordered parts and sevice is excellent. They sent me a gift cartomizer when I ordered a couple of batteries. It is a nice vape with lots of vapor. As you know the cartridge doesn't hold a whole lot so I would recommend going with Carto. I do refill the Direct Ecig cartridges but they only take a few drops. The battery is $12.95 and I think their shipping is $5 on all orders. (Not totally sure but I ordered several things including a PCC and it was $5.)

It is not my main PV but I do carry it when I might run out of battery on another, or get tied up somewhere for longer than I figured. I send it with DH when he forgets to charge up his 801 batteries. (801 produces huge amounts of vapor.) I mostly drip a mod box and an eGo with cartos.

Alice

 

[Technonut]

Thanks for the reply.. I was coming to the conclusion that the Direct E-Cig is a Smokestik right before your reply, and you just confirmed my hunch...

So... Direct E-Cig is being misleading when they state the battery is a 5 volt unit.. Hmmmm. Another reason that I am glad I used my PayPal debit card. Don't get me wrong.. I like the Direct E-Cig. I just don't appreciate being lied to by them. I now look forward to getting some extra accessories for the Direct E-Cig.

I must admit that the Cig2o gives me a more satisfying throat hit, along with good vapor, and taste. I will probably get similar results with the Direct E-Cig using cartos.. I was checking-out some threads and other info stating the Smokestick cartos are of better design and quality.. They are still less expensive than the ones Direct E-Cig offers. I more than likely will give them a try.

Thanks again for the reply and info westamyx...

The Direct e cig is a Classic 4081. Aquavaporcig.com has parts for it including a cartomizer. I've ordered parts and sevice is excellent. They sent me a gift cartomizer when I ordered a couple of batteries. It is a nice vape with lots of vapor. As you know the cartridge doesn't hold a whole lot so I would recommend going with Carto. I do refill the Direct Ecig cartridges but they only take a few drops. The battery is $12.95 and I think their shipping is $5 on all orders. (Not totally sure but I ordered several things including a PCC and it was $5.)

It is not my main PV but I do carry it when I might run out of battery on another, or get tied up somewhere for longer than I figured. I send it with DH when he forgets to charge up his 801 batteries. (801 produces huge amounts of vapor.) I mostly drip a mod box and an eGo with cartos.

Alice