Vamo with protank fails to fire

[cymric]

VAMO WITH PROTANK FAILS TO FIRE

I love my new Kanger Protanks. Pyrex, metal, and short wicks - all good. Clouds of vapor. No leaks. Such great flavour that I am re-testing a few e-liquids that I rejected earlier using other clearomizers. Cleaning at the early stage seems easy for me, although one article suggests a very extensive cleaning process: http://www.fooli.....com/posts/tag/kanger-protank/

Until last night my only complaint about the Protank was the high cost of the replacement atomizer coils in Canada. Last night, vaping on my Vamo with a Protank, my Vamo seemed to fail. The circuit board and all the buttons were working and the battery was charged, but nothing was happening. I tried other clearomizers and still nothing was happening.

I searched in the ECF Vamo threads and elsewhere until I found this thread by KerryK: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/375871-vamo-ohm-error-fix.html. I was not having any problems with the Vamo reading the resistance of the clearomizers but the description of how to fix TerryK’s problem turned out to explain my problem.

My Vamo was not firing because the bottom column of the Protank had depressed the centre pin in the Vamo and there was no longer any electrical contact between the Vamo and either the Protank or my various other clearomizers. I took my tiny screwdrivers and pulled up the centre pin. All was well for a while and then the pin was again depressed by the Protank – repeat – repeat – repeat.

According to KerryK’s thread (and I thank him for making his thread) the problem of a depressed centre pin on the Vamo has arisen for others when they have used 510 adapters and they have solved it my replacing the white gasket around the centre pin with a washer. This operation has apparently been difficult and neither I nor my handy assistant wants to make the attempt. Elsewhere on the web someone has indicated that they solved their problem with the 510 adapters by grinding down one of the connecting parts, although it is not clear to me whether they ground down the centre column of the Vamo or the connecting part of the 510 adapter. In any case, either method is beyond our capabilities and equipment.

I examined the length of the bottom column on the Protank against the length of the iClear column and that of the Protank was a smidgeon longer. Perhaps more notably, the sheath of the column on the Protank extends a bit beyond the contact point of the Protank. As might be expected, there are also small differences in length between the centre columns of the several replacement coils I have for the Protanks, although all the Protank columns are longer than those of the iClear and all the contact points for the Protanks are more recessed than those of the iClear.

I notice in other threads that many hoped that the manufacturer of the Vamo (whoever that may be) would fix problems with the centre column and the firing pin in the next Vamo edition, but it appears that the (swirly) Vamo 3 is now available and there is no indication of a fix.

BTW, my Vamo is five weeks old and I did not and I am not over tightening the Protank. I vaped with the Vamo and Protank for three days before the fail to fire.

Any suggestions? Anyone know of any other device with a 510 connector that has produced a similar problem with the Protanks?

 

[cymric]

PAINTED VAMO



Painted VAMO Variable Volt/Watt APV V2

Looks like the manufacturer is going to put out a "painted" Vamo V2 (if so, I will really want to slap on a skin). Appears to be a change so that this version of the Vamo will fit a Kanger T3 and MT3 flush. Information on the site states that the painted "Vamo ...features a 510/eGo connection. Unlike other APVs on the market, this version has the eGo cone threads in addition to the 510 battery connector threads."

No indication as to whether that change will solve my Kanger ProTank problem.

 

[Proetus]

Not what i wanted to read when i have a Pro tank in the mail

 

[cymric]

Saw a couple of possible solutions in the Kanger Protank thread which I will try. The problem the solutions addressed was the airy vape (which I like) and all solutions related to that problem..

First: someone suggested using the beauty ring. I will try this.

Second: Someone else suggested using a Tank Airflow Controller Tank Airflow Controller. This might raise the centre column of the Protak a little. I will consider trying this if nothing else works.

Third: Someone suggested placing a piece of plastic (or cardboard) with a hole in the center on the bottom of the tank before screwing on your device. This might raise the centre column of the Protank a little. I will try this.



I am not NOT inclined to give up on this problem

 

[VapRLady]

Saw a couple of possible solutions in the Kanger Protank thread which I will try. The problem the solutions addressed was the airy vape (which I like) and all solutions related to that problem..

First: someone suggested using the beauty ring. I will try this.

Second: Someone else suggested using a Tank Airflow Controller Tank Airflow Controller. This might raise the centre column of the Protak a little. I will consider trying this if nothing else works.

Third: Someone suggested placing a piece of plastic (or cardboard) with a hole in the center on the bottom of the tank before screwing on your device. This might raise the centre column of the Protank a little. I will try this.

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I am not NOT inclined to give up on this problem

I used the plastic gasket, I used packaging plastic from another item I had ordered and the protank now sits more solid and no chance of overtightening. Hope this keeps the problem at bay, just day two with mine and HOLY COW! This thing can vape! The gasket seems to add air restriction also, giving a more flavorful vape, no hint of flooding or gurgling either.... will let you know!

The beauty ring that came with the Protank will not work on my vamo, maybe it's just mine, I would also like to sy that if you do use a 510 to ego adapter you can still push that pin down, so be careful, I guess if I was to do it I'd go with an eGo to eGo.... if someone knows better, please chime in!

 

[cymric]

I used the plastic gasket, I used packaging plastic from another item I had ordered and the protank now sits more solid and no chance of overtightening. Hope this keeps the problem at bay, just day two with mine and HOLY COW! This thing can vape! The gasket seems to add air restriction also, giving a more flavorful vape, no hint of flooding or gurgling either.... will let you know!

The beauty ring that came with the Protank will not work on my vamo, maybe it's just mine, I would also like to sy that if you do use a 510 to ego adapter you can still push that pin down, so be careful, I guess if I was to do it I'd go with an eGo to eGo.... if someone knows better, please chime in!

Thank you for responding.

The beauty ring does not work for me either. The plastic ring does not work yet either. How about a 510 to 510 adapter? Any one think that will work.

 

[bluegrasslover]

Here's what i did as a temp fix but is holding up well so far. I carefully pulled the center post on the vamo out of the connector. The wire is long enough. I took a small oring and put it on the bottom of the post and pushed the post back into position. It is a little higher than the original insulator but it is a little more springy. I've been using this for a couple weeks sms is working great. No soldering no grinding and takes just a minute to do. I have no idea what size the oring is.

 

[cymric]

Here's what i did as a temp fix but is holding up well so far. I carefully pulled the center post on the vamo out of the connector. The wire is long enough. I took a small oring and put it on the bottom of the post and pushed the post back into position. It is a little higher than the original insulator but it is a little more springy. I've been using this for a couple weeks sms is working great. No soldering no grinding and takes just a minute to do. I have no idea what size the oring is.

Thank you. Good to know that fix has been working for weeks and good to know that the wire attaching the center post is long enough to pull the post up from the connector - I would not have dared try that without your information. Excuse my inexperienced questions but, did you put the center post through the o-ring and slide the o-ring to the bottom or did you stuff the o-ring to one side at the bottom? Did you lift out the white gasket or leave it where ever it was seated?

 

[bluegrasslover]

Excuse my inexperienced questions but, did you put the center post through the o-ring and slide the o-ring to the bottom or did you stuff the o-ring to one side at the bottom? Did you lift out the white gasket or leave it where ever it was seated?

The wire gasket fell out basically. Either way should work but i think i put it the connector then pushed the pin through.

 

[bluegrasslover]

The wire gasket fell out basically. Either way should work but i think i put it the connector then pushed the pin through.

This temp fix doesn't work to good with aga s. The center post is too proud making it difficult to get the aga threaded. It works but it's not real stable.

 

[cymric]

You all probably knew from an earlier thread that the white gasket (apparently properly called a 510 Threaded Connector Insulator) can be purchased here: 510 Threaded Connector Insulators - Avid Vaper

 

[nahoku]

You all probably knew from an earlier thread that the white gasket (apparently properly called a 510 Threaded Connector Insulator) can be purchased here: 510 Threaded Connector Insulators - Avid Vaper

You can also get them out of old cartos, clearos, attys.

 

[lynch]

You can also use the evod coils in the protank for less airy draws. I think they are better than the
protank coils and gives a better taste.

 

[garyd]

VAMO WITH PROTANK FAILS TO FIRE

I love my new Kanger Protanks. Pyrex, metal, and short wicks - all good. Clouds of vapor. No leaks. Such great flavour that I am re-testing a few e-liquids that I rejected earlier using other clearomizers. Cleaning at the early stage seems easy for me, although one article suggests a very extensive cleaning process: http://www.fooli.....com/posts/tag/kanger-protank/

Until last night my only complaint about the Protank was the high cost of the replacement atomizer coils in Canada. Last night, vaping on my Vamo with a Protank, my Vamo seemed to fail. The circuit board and all the buttons were working and the battery was charged, but nothing was happening. I tried other clearomizers and still nothing was happening.

I searched in the ECF Vamo threads and elsewhere until I found this thread by KerryK: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/375871-vamo-ohm-error-fix.html. I was not having any problems with the Vamo reading the resistance of the clearomizers but the description of how to fix TerryK’s problem turned out to explain my problem.

My Vamo was not firing because the bottom column of the Protank had depressed the centre pin in the Vamo and there was no longer any electrical contact between the Vamo and either the Protank or my various other clearomizers. I took my tiny screwdrivers and pulled up the centre pin. All was well for a while and then the pin was again depressed by the Protank – repeat – repeat – repeat.

According to KerryK’s thread (and I thank him for making his thread) the problem of a depressed centre pin on the Vamo has arisen for others when they have used 510 adapters and they have solved it my replacing the white gasket around the centre pin with a washer. This operation has apparently been difficult and neither I nor my handy assistant wants to make the attempt. Elsewhere on the web someone has indicated that they solved their problem with the 510 adapters by grinding down one of the connecting parts, although it is not clear to me whether they ground down the centre column of the Vamo or the connecting part of the 510 adapter. In any case, either method is beyond our capabilities and equipment.

I examined the length of the bottom column on the Protank against the length of the iClear column and that of the Protank was a smidgeon longer. Perhaps more notably, the sheath of the column on the Protank extends a bit beyond the contact point of the Protank. As might be expected, there are also small differences in length between the centre columns of the several replacement coils I have for the Protanks, although all the Protank columns are longer than those of the iClear and all the contact points for the Protanks are more recessed than those of the iClear.

I notice in other threads that many hoped that the manufacturer of the Vamo (whoever that may be) would fix problems with the centre column and the firing pin in the next Vamo edition, but it appears that the (swirly) Vamo 3 is now available and there is no indication of a fix.

BTW, my Vamo is five weeks old and I did not and I am not over tightening the Protank. I vaped with the Vamo and Protank for three days before the fail to fire.

Any suggestions? Anyone know of any other device with a 510 connector that has produced a similar problem with the Protanks?

Sorry to hear this, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but it's a Vamo, basically a disposable device, cheap, about the cost of a carton of cigs. When they came out I thought they were great for the price and they are don't get me wrong. They just don't last forever. There are some better choices out there with better build quality for a little bit more $ that will last longer with proper care, do a little research. You got 5 weeks out of it and got your money's worth out of it for sure if you were using on a daily basis. IMO it's really not worth fixing, most likely more problems or the same problem will happen again. Like I said do a little research on other mods or buy a new Vamo, up to you. You always get what you pay for with just about everything in this world.

 

[cymric]

Sorry to hear this, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but it's a Vamo, basically a disposable device, cheap, about the cost of a carton of cigs. When they came out I thought they were great for the price and they are don't get me wrong. They just don't last forever. There are some better choices out there with better build quality for a little bit more $ that will last longer with proper care, do a little research. You got 5 weeks out of it and got your money's worth out of it for sure if you were using on a daily basis. IMO it's really not worth fixing, most likely more problems or the same problem will happen again. Like I said do a little research on other mods or buy a new Vamo, up to you. You always get what you pay for with just about everything in this world.

…and I hope that you do not take my response wrong garyd.

I wanted a sturdy VW device. My understanding was that same chip is in zmax/vamo/tesla/SVD. The Vamo is the only VW device that Busardo recommends in his hardware list. My stainless steel Vamo V2 cost $60. plus tax and shipping in Canada and seemed like a good starter mod for me.

The eVic is available in Canada but has been shown to be both fragile and poorly finished –the heads seem to break off easily. It seemed not a good choice for me, particularly as I like Protanks best and I am told by users that the Protank topples the eVic . The Tesla is available in Canada but I consider it just plain ugly and I do not like an exposed battery. The SVD was not available in Canada until two weeks ago but in any case I am not impressed with its size and complications. The SID has just arrived in Canada this week. As it seems to be a clone of the eVic with fewer features and it does not take Kanger T3’s and therefore also does not take Kanger Protanks without an adapter, it does not seem a good choice for me.

The Zmax V2 was not available in Canada until last week. I ordered one at $90. plus tax and shipping and expect delivery this week. The Groove has just become available in stainless steel in the States and I am on a pre-order with an American vendor. It will arrive who knows when and when it does I will have to pay shipping, custom duties, and taxes. There were no stainless steel Vamos in stock in Canada when the problem with my Vamo occurred but I have ordered one which my Canadian vendor tells me is in the air between China and Canada.

The experienced vapers suggest that it is too early for me to purchase a mechanical mod. When I do buy one, it will be one I can use with a kick like the Electric Angel or the Nemesis.

I still wish to use my current Vamo which at this time is my only mod and I wish to prevent damage to my new Vamo when it comes, thus my inquiries.

 

[Vap3ster]

I would imagine one thing you could do is when you put the heads in the protank base not put it all the way in. Not sure if is the part that is to long is just the threading on the protank base itself ?

I think they call 510 to 510 adapters 510 to ego anyways I am now planning on getting one as I have protanks and am getting a vamo and sure don't want it to break in 3days .

Has anyone tried a 510 to 510 adapter to remedy this problem ?

 

[nahoku]

I'm not exactly sure what to interject here, but using an adapter, whether 510-ego, 510-510, tank airflow (which I use), etc, will not stop you from damaging the vamo center pin gasket. The center pin of the adapters slide and move, so if you tighten down on the adapter with your device, you basically tighten down on the vamo center pin. Lesson... don't over-tighten. Personally I don't use my airflow adapter for anything other than saving wear on the vamo threads.

 

[peraspera]

Sorry to hear this, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but it's a Vamo, basically a disposable device, cheap, about the cost of a carton of cigs. When they came out I thought they were great for the price and they are don't get me wrong. They just don't last forever. There are some better choices out there with better build quality for a little bit more $ that will last longer with proper care, do a little research.
..
You always get what you pay for with just about everything in this world.

While there are PVs with better build quality than the VAMO that is certainly not the case for commercially available VW/VV PVs with screens. They all basically use the same chipset and none of the Chinese manufacturers have anything approaching stellar reputations for quality control. Purchase on the basis of features/price and reputation of the vendor for weeding out QC issues.

All that said, both of my VAMOs have been chugging along without a glitch, including having no center pin issues, since I purchased them in December. However, I learned from using my Twists to just barely snug juice delivery devices.

It's been my observation that one can not depend on price for vaping toys to determine quality. The industry doesn't seem to be the teeniest bit embarrassed about selling alpha products for retail prices. Also, some very expensive gear is over-engineered for its intended purpose. That rings the chimes of many but might not be the best value proposition, particularly in an area like vaping where technology changes with every blink of the eye.

 

[Discord]

found this video, seems to be a good method to avoid over-tightening issues between the vamo and the protank
Vapor Lady Lounge Vamo Protank Fix to Prevent Over-tightening, Improve Protank Draw - YouTube

 

[cymric]

found this video, seems to be a good method to avoid over-tightening issues between the vamo and the protank
Vapor Lady Lounge Vamo Protank Fix to Prevent Over-tightening, Improve Protank Draw - YouTube

Thank you very much for posting this video - very helpful. This washer fix had been recommended earlier in the thread but for some reason did not work for me then. I note that this reviewer used the plastic from the Protank package for the washer. I will now try using that same plastic in case the plastic I used earlier was too thin.