Vape 24mg Sparingly or 12mg Constantly?

[BenD188]

First off, I started over a year ago in April 2011. I started with 18mg, then eventually just ordered 12mg. I have also tried 24mg at a mall kiosk.. and after a short time of sampling flavors, I had a buzz going.

My goal is to stop vaping eventually, despite how much I enjoy it.

I've been on 12mg for probably 3-4 months. I vape it whenever I can. If I'm alone, or in the car, I'm vaping. I stop if I get a nic headache or buzz. With this 12mg, it takes a while to get there. I dont mind that if I have the day off and can vape as I please. It's more annoying if I want to take a "bathroom" break at work to get my fix. It takes longer than if I would just take a few puffs of 24mg.

So is vaping 24mg sparingly, as opposed to 12mg constantly, going to make it harder to quit? I know the goal of a lot of people is to lower their nic, but is it helping if you are vaping 2-3 times more than if you had a higher nic level?

I've been wanting to order 24mg so I feel satisfied in a shorter period of time, especially on little breaks where I don't have the time to sit down and puff away. I don't want to ruin my progress in the lowering of nicotine, or make it harder on my self to quit.

I'm hoping for some opinions or suggestions on this. Thanks for reading.

-Ben

 

[martinc]

Odds are you already lowered your nic lvl way more than you think;

Vaping 12mg/ml would require at least 2ml to equal an analog

I am in the same boat,24 seem too strong,18 and 12 I see no diff. between but vaping 24 would be more economical.

Harder to quit...depends on the individual,but I doubt it.

Quitting nic should be a matter of a week at most. (again,depends on the individual) and drinking plenty of liquids would haste the process too.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved from General E-Smoking Discussion to General E-Liquid Discussion.

 

[propagandax]

I'm in your boat. I am 4 months in and switched to 24 mg exclusively from 18mg. it is more economical and less time consuming (I totally relate to the breaks). Also the throat hit is amazing. After a couple weeks my body is already use to it. Honesty if I could get the throat hit and.get satisfaction from 18 I would stick there but I get tired of puffing on it for 10 minutes to get satisfaction. I've also gone from 3 cartos per day to 2. Not quite a 50% drop but close. Most of that is unnecessary vaping in the car cause its so good.

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[kwalka]

I am down to mostly 0 nic with some 6 and 8 every now and then. I started at 24 chain vaping, when I would go more than hour w/o it I would feel myself withdrawing. Now I can go for many hours and its not an issue, and like Martinc says, a week is plenty to knock yourself down. I was very surprised how fast I was able to cut down. I just kept a tank full of very low nic content and vaped away, whenever I got the urge I would take a couple wacks off a bit higher stuff. All in all a week and a half and I was down to nothing. I still vape heavily and prob always will, as I just enjoy it.

 

[Mr.Mann]

It depends on what you require at the time. I vape 18mg when I feel I need it, 12mg when I am more "pleasure vaping" and WTA at high voltage when I need the analog effect.

So, if you have little time to vape, 24mg sounds good, but if you want to have an extended session go for 12mg, and a moderate session would be 18mg. Just my thoughts!

 

[mwa102464]

I believe one of the other parts comes into play some too, if you where a long time smoker your body was use to the amount of Nic and chemicals it was taking in daily, and lots of things go on with in your body once you quit smoking. So lowering your Nic over time helps and is easier with less side effects then just dropping your Nic MG's all at once. When I started vaping I vaped 36mg for about a month, then dropped to 24mg for a good solid year. After this I dropped only 2mg's at a time lowering my Nic and it helped a lot doing it this way, today I'm at 12mg and ready to drop again to 10mg or 8mg. Slowly moving down has helped me get through it and with less side effects so now my body doesnt crave the high MG's that it once use to.

 

[DaveP]

Sounds like you either need to use 24mg at work and 18mg at home, or just use 18mg until you get to the point where that satisfies you. Your body will adjust to a lower nic level if you give it some time. Vape harder when necessary and lighter when you need to.

You might also try low resistance cartos for work and higher at home. That will vaporize the juice to the level you need.

A variable voltage PV will also let you adjust the voltage for more or less atomization when you need it or you don't. I vape 4.2v when I want more hit and nic and dial it down to 3.8v when I want less, but still have good flavor. You will go through more juice at higher voltages and get more nic in the process.

 

[markfm]

A single typical full strength cigarette delivers about 0.8 - 1 mg of nicotine. The cigarette value is for "delivered" nicotine, absorbed, based on smoking machines and test subject measurements.

Eliquid values are for base concentration in the eliquid. How much of that is absorbed varies based on equipment, experience (vaping style), but typical seems to be on the order of 1/5 - 1/6 of the nicotine gets metabolized.

If you have 12 mg/ml liquid, and are absorbing 1/6 of it, then 1/2 ml of eliquid would equate to about 1 mg nicotine absorbed.

The above leaves out the other stuff related to cigs. Cigs have some freebase nicotine, basically nicotine that kicks in faster. Cigs also have MAOIs, things that extend how long the "feel good" works on the brain. Cig smoking also introduces carbon monoxide -- part of the "rush" of a sharp deep drag is oxygen starvation

I'm in the slow decrease category -- I stayed at 24 with a bit of 30 for months, then started slowly decreasing, a couple mg/ml every couple weeks to month. I DIY so I can tune my liquid, no biggie to do 1 mg/ml increments. I'm in no rush, don't know if I'll bother decreasing all the way to 0, I do like the minor stimulant effect.

 

[DMitch]

Great question OP!!

I used to smoke a pack of Marb lights per day and I vape 12mg but find myself vaping all the time. My goal is to eventually quit vaping as well.

My questions...
*Will moving up to 18mg reduce the amount I vape daily ?

*If the answer to above is yes, will it make it harder for me to quit vaping by increasing my nic level instead of gradually reducing nic level?

Thanks!

 

[Hondo69]

I'm in the same boat.

Typically I use the 24mg and have some cartos loaded up and ready to go. But I also make a DIY mixture that I add to the 24mg to dilute it. I just use a base of PG/VG and add some kind of flavoring from FlavorArt. This is typically Menthol Artic or their flavor enhancer. The ability to contol the ratio I want with the 24mg original flavor is a big plus.

 

[Kyi]

When I smoked analogs, I was a fairly light-medium smoker, averaging about 7 cigs a day. Of course, drinking would increase that to almost a pack, but luckily I only drink on weekends. When I switched to e-cigs, I wasn't sure what nicotine level to get so I figured, more nic = better, right? So I ordered 24mg. Well, the throat hit from that was super harsh to me, and after only a few drags, I felt weird and light headed. Because of how strong the liquid was, I found myself not using it as much because it was unpleasant, and even sneaking in a few analogs.

Then I switched to 12mg. A lot better for me. It was more enjoyable to vape at that level, so I did it more frequently. And then I found myself getting that nicotine high again, which I don't really want because I don't feel that way when I smoke cigarettes.

THEN, I switched to 6mg. Now at this point, I find that I'm still a very light vaper, and I don't get the nicotine high at this level, but this seems right for me. Honestly, I feel like with how little I vape and the level of nicotine I consume, I could probably wean myself off by diluting the liquids until I am only vaping nicotine free. And I think from there it would be easier to quit smoking/vaping completely. But I don't think I really wanna quit vaping, so this is as low as I'll go.

Good luck! But yea, I figured if I got lower nic, I could vape more often without getting "high".

 

[jplanet]

I generally vape 12mg - but I am finding myself in more and more situations where I only have brief opportunities to vape, so now I keep a lot of 18mg around, especially when I am out of the house, and might only have a few minutes to grab a quick puff here and there. But I go back to the 12mg when I have the luxury to chain-vape, such as when watching TV or working on the computer...

I had some 24mg leftover, and it was wonderful - very satisfying, but I don't want to be tempted to up my nic by that much again, though I suppose having a small 10ml bottle of 24mg around might be useful for when I have to grab a quick puff before sitting in a movie theater for a few hours (though I usually manage to stealth vape as long as it's not too crowded)...

 

[kwalka]

I generally vape 12mg - but I am finding myself in more and more situations where I only have brief opportunities to vape, so now I keep a lot of 18mg around, especially when I am out of the house, and might only have a few minutes to grab a quick puff here and there. But I go back to the 12mg when I have the luxury to chain-vape, such as when watching TV or working on the computer...

I had some 24mg leftover, and it was wonderful - very satisfying, but I don't want to be tempted to up my nic by that much again, though I suppose having a small 10ml bottle of 24mg around might be useful for when I have to grab a quick puff before sitting in a movie theater for a few hours (though I usually manage to stealth vape as long as it's not too crowded)...

I went to a crowded house theater a few weeks ago and b 4 we sat I noticed a very pregnant couple directly behind us. So b4 I sat I started to say when you guys see me exhaling its not smoke, they cut me off and said oh its cool go right ahead. We are not smoking and the more people we educate the better the chance we have when it comes time to vote. Vape openly my friends.

 

[Dream]

The more physically active i am, the less i jones for nicotine...(play tennis, do a lot of yoga, bike, yada yada.. i just like being active).
I still vape 24mg juices, but I don't NEED it like i used to. I just enjoy it.

In addition to exercise, using my favorite WTA juices makes it easier for me to lower the nic level and frequency of vaping. I use 18mg or 12mg WTA juice later in the day so that I'm able to remain satisfied without chain vaping. I do this especially so that I can sleep... too much nicotine late at night interferes with my ability to sleep soundly.

Anyhow, exercise helps me more than anything.. The last thing I want after a good tennis match (or an intense Bikram yoga session) is to inhale nicotine vapor... All I want is oxygen, water, and a shower!!

 

[ChinMullet]

I now have 18, 12, and 6

I use 18 in the morning to kick start my heart, 12 throughout the day to maintain, and 6 late at night or else I am wide awake all night from the nicotine. But I'll take a rare boost of 18 any time if I am really feeling the need.

I vape about 3 to 3.5ml per day all told. Not constant vaping, but more than I smoked.

I am going to step down this summer. I don't want to be addicted to e-cigs for the rest of my life any more than the real thing

 

[rlh445]

First off, I started over a year ago in April 2011. I started with 18mg, then eventually just ordered 12mg. I have also tried 24mg at a mall kiosk.. and after a short time of sampling flavors, I had a buzz going.

My goal is to stop vaping eventually, despite how much I enjoy it.

I've been on 12mg for probably 3-4 months. I vape it whenever I can. If I'm alone, or in the car, I'm vaping. I stop if I get a nic headache or buzz. With this 12mg, it takes a while to get there. I dont mind that if I have the day off and can vape as I please. It's more annoying if I want to take a "bathroom" break at work to get my fix. It takes longer than if I would just take a few puffs of 24mg.

So is vaping 24mg sparingly, as opposed to 12mg constantly, going to make it harder to quit? I know the goal of a lot of people is to lower their nic, but is it helping if you are vaping 2-3 times more than if you had a higher nic level?

I've been wanting to order 24mg so I feel satisfied in a shorter period of time, especially on little breaks where I don't have the time to sit down and puff away. I don't want to ruin my progress in the lowering of nicotine, or make it harder on my self to quit.

I'm hoping for some opinions or suggestions on this. Thanks for reading.

-Ben

My goal is to stop vaping eventually too. Within a week, I went from 24mg to 18mg. I hope that in another few weeks, I'll be down to 12mg. I think my problem is that I really like vaping because of the awesome flavors I've been turned onto by this forum. I've been vaping Pineapple Shake all day (literally) from Kick Bass Vapors and my GOD is it a good flavor! My eventual goal is to stop vaping altogether, and I think if I just used unflavored juice I'd be okay, but with all this good tasting stuff, why stop! My new goal is to get down to 0 nicotine and just vape to my heart's content.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

I now have 18, 12, and 6

I use 18 in the morning to kick start my heart, 12 throughout the day to maintain, and 6 late at night or else I am wide awake all night from the nicotine. But I'll take a rare boost of 18 any time if I am really feeling the need.

Better living through chemistry -- I love it! I actually do something similar -- I vape 12 throughout the day, but switch to 6 at night, which I just keep loaded in a clearomizer, to minimize the insomnia. I would use 18 or 24 if I had this thing I hear people refer to...what's it called...oh yes, 'restraint.' If I have 24, I'll chain vape it, just the same as I chain vape 12. That said, I do keep a little bit of 18 around under lock and key and only vape it in situations when vape breaks are few and far between, such as airline travel.

 

[Diabolus]

I'd go with the 12, as others have already mentioned, you'll start chain vaping the 24 and that could lead to some issues.

 

[Jimi D.]

I like 18mg..Seems to be just right, for my cravings, flavor, and TH..