Vape batteries in space!

[ecffred]

The 18650 battery popular with vape and electric cars is also being used in cubesats and rockets in space as a more cost-effective option to 'aerospace' batteries.

I'm here to learn all the first-hand knowledge you have about using, storing, charging and testing these batteries as there is a huge amount of real-world experimentation going on here!
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Fred

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Well then go to the Battery & chargers sub forum.
---> Batteries and Chargers

 

[Izan]

The 18650 battery popular with vape and electric cars is also being used in cubesats and rockets in space as a more cost-effective option to 'aerospace' batteries.

I'm here to learn all the first-hand knowledge you have about using, storing, charging and testing these batteries as there is a huge amount of real-world experimentation going on here!
--
Fred

Hi fred,
You are in the wrong place.
Go here: Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University

Cheers
I

 

[Baditude]

All good information resources listed above.

Battery Mooch is our forum's battery expert: Mooch's blog

He also has a You Tube channel. Episode 1 "Minding Your Mah's" is a good place to start.

 

[charlie1465]

Welcome to the friendly bunch

I hope you find what you're looking for

 

[BrotherBob]

huge amount of real-world experimentation going on here!

Welcome and glad you joined.

 

[Northstar6]

Welcome aboard.

Safety rule #1: Do NOT eat the batteries [emoji5]

 

[bombastinator]

The 18650 battery popular with vape and electric cars is also being used in cubesats and rockets in space as a more cost-effective option to 'aerospace' batteries.

I'm here to learn all the first-hand knowledge you have about using, storing, charging and testing these batteries as there is a huge amount of real-world experimentation going on here!
--
Fred

Actually not so much. We’re generally scared as hell of those things. Most of what you’ll find here is safety stuff. The local battery expert is @Mooch. He’s got a patreon you might find it worth your time to join.
Battery Mooch is creating battery tests and educating vapers | Patreon
I for one wouldn’t personally even use a battery at high altitude. Some batteries make gas when damaged and the safety features of the batteries assume atmosphere. There are many types and designs within types though and it’s possible there is something to fit your needs. @Mooch would be the one to ask though.

 

[Jim_ MDP]

Actually not so much. We’re generally scared as hell of those things. Most of what you’ll find here is safety stuff. The local battery expert is @Mooch. He’s got a patreon you might find it worth your time to join.
Battery Mooch is creating battery tests and educating vapers | Patreon
I for one wouldn’t personally even use a battery at high altitude. Some batteries make gas when damaged and the safety features of the batteries assume atmosphere. There are many types and designs within types though and it’s possible there is something to fit your needs. @Mooch would be the one to ask though.

I'm having a hard time imagining what we think of as Li Ion packaging and chem being used in an environment much ouside human comfort range in space... if you're well enough heated, you've probably got an RTG or some such for power as well. Actually the batt/power solutions on craft are surely innovative as hell, but likely not cell types we would recognize.

Plus the whole... hazardous when mishandled thing. [emoji2]

But if you want stressful experimentation of 18650s etc., I'd suggest the flashlight (torch) fanatics... those folk are nuts. [emoji2]

 

[Mooch]

I'm having a hard time imagining what we think of as Li Ion packaging and chem being used in an environment much ouside human comfort range in space... if you're well enough heated, you've probably got an RTG or some such for power as well. Actually the batt/power solutions on craft are surely innovative as hell, but likely not cell types we would recognize.

Plus the whole... hazardous when mishandled thing. [emoji2]

But if you want stressful experimentation of 18650s etc., I'd suggest the flashlight (torch) fanatics... those folk are nuts. [emoji2]

Actually, NASA has done a lot of off-the-shelf 18650 safety testing and they have several papers on the web to check out. 18650 cells are used in systems such as EVA suit life support, glove heaters, lights, tools, etc., used during EVA activities in space. There are 18650 packs in multiple ISS commercial cargo/crew craft too.



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[Mooch]

The 18650 battery popular with vape and electric cars is also being used in cubesats and rockets in space as a more cost-effective option to 'aerospace' batteries.

I'm here to learn all the first-hand knowledge you have about using, storing, charging and testing these batteries as there is a huge amount of real-world experimentation going on here!
--
Fred

We have a bit of experience here but NASA has published several papers with loads of safety and performance testing of COTS 18650 cells, all towards qualifying cells and pack designs for aerospace/space use.