Vape-in in the Hospital, Vape-in in the Hospital. Everybody Knows that Smoke-in Ain't Allowed in--

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vlee

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And it frightens me that our health can be entrusted with these ....... It's one thing to BE ignorant, but to willfully stay that way makes you pretty worthless.

Sorry but I am one of those ....... It is this type of attitude that will crush the vaping movement and how we are going to be perceived and received by the general public. I was uneducated about e-cigs and vaping until this past November, But I do not think healthcare professionals are worthless due to ignorance. Though I now understand e-gigs have been around for a while now, it has taking me months of extensive research, reading and dialog to gain an understanding of this community, this movement, and the benefits gained by vaping. I am also a BSN trained hospital nurse who was a smoker. I have not had an analog since I picked up an e-cig this past November. Until that day, I knew nothing of this new system of nicotine delivery. It was by accident. So I appreciate why a fellow nurse would question the use in the hospital setting. Many within healthcare are nonsmokers due to extensive knowledge of the effects of smoking. As nurses we get exposure to the damage that cigarette smoking has caused to our patients on a daily basis. So, of course I understand how many who work in the hospital setting would be resistant, and question, especially if they are nonsmokers themselves. Up until this time I have not seen any reference to e-cigs in any educational text books, literature or journals.

It is also worth mentioning that as nurses we see a very diverse patient population, especially in a metropolitan hospital setting. Many follow differing customs and value systems. It is not unusual to find patients and family members partaking in practices that are foreign or unusual to us. Sometimes even illegal, as some of our laws lag behind the times. As nurses, to better serve our patients, we strive to educate ourselves in the many different practices within our culturally diverse communities. This is not done in a vacuum, but rather directly from the communities we serve. So it is up to this community, right here, to begin that education and dialog with mutual respect. By taking a positive attitude and educating others lack of information and understanding with civility, I believe we will find our strongest supporters and allies within the medical field as we become the new breed of non-smokers. Thanks for hearing me out.
 

perlionsmitnick

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Wife in hospital for a week. Most nurses and doctors were curious about it but didn't say not to use it and were surprised when I told them I quit within 1 week of starting with e-cigs and haven't smoked for over 2 years. Even the respiratory therapist didn't have a problem with it. I think that some of the alebuterol (sp)treatments may have PG in them. I know that intravenous drugs use PG. One nurse came in and said "Oh baby it smells good in here! Smells like chocolate!" lol
 

vlee

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Wife in hospital for a week. Most nurses and doctors were curious about it but didn't say not to use it and were surprised when I told them I quit within 1 week of starting with e-cigs and haven't smoked for over 2 years. Even the respiratory therapist didn't have a problem with it. I think that some of the alebuterol (sp)treatments may have PG in them. I know that intravenous drugs use PG. One nurse came in and said "Oh baby it smells good in here! Smells like chocolate!" lol

Awesome!!!!!!!!
 

Shonna76

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Being in the hospital is what got me started vaping. I did not pick up a cigarette when I got released either. It has been one month that I have been smoke free. (not even one puff =)) I have had to make trips back to the hospital but stealth vape. I know how much criticism I got as a smoker and don't want to be confronted by medical staff who doesn't realize the benefit. Perhaps if I would be admitted in the future, I will print one of those nifty little pamphlet someone posted for doctors about ecigs.
 

dragonriot

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I was at the hospital visiting my mom when a nurse came in to check on her and "caught me" vaping. She was all like, "you can't smoke in here, sir." I attempted to explain that I wouldn't dare smoke in the hospital and that it was a harmless vapor that she was seeing me exhale. Then she said "Well, that's not allowed in here." So naturally I said, "why not?" and she said something to the effect of: because we wouldn't want it messing with the o2 machines. So I pretty much threw in the towel with that conversation and continued to pass the PV back and forth with mom, stealthy at that point.[/QUOTE

When you get this argument, it's time to pull out the real facts for the nurses and tell them it's the exact same stuff they pump in through the HVAC system to purify the air in the hospital... That should silence any nay-sayers.
 

Andante51

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For many years, I was terrified at the prospect of landing in the hospital. Being a 2 pack a day smoker for over 40 years I thought I would come completely unhinged if I was hospitalized and had to quit cold turkey. For several years I knew knee replacement surgery was looming, so those fears became more tangible ;) Now that I am trying to get new knees this year, and became a 100% vaper two months ago, it is very comforting to know that I'd be able to vape there even if I had to do it in stealth mode. Now that I am DIYing my own liquids, I could create liquids that would not be very noticeable to others. My hub could sneak in my supplies after I was admitted. I'll probably prep something heavy on blueberry and/or strawberry, and will also be armed with some hand lotion beefed up with essential oils of the same fragrance, so if someone mentions they smell something, I will have a ready explanation (ha!) My Dad was in the hospital recently recovering from pneumonia, and was sleeping most of the time. I'd turn the lights off for his comfort, and sneak out my little 510-T, light end covered, with the drape almost closed separating us from his roommate (thank goodness he had a bed by the window!) It was very easy to hear when a staff member was entering the room as a warning system, and had that hand lotion bottle at the ready on the table next to me. With the small size of the 510 it was easy to immediately hide it in a natural hand position on my lap. Another tip I picked up for stealth vaping is to hold my breathe for a few seconds after the inhale, as almost no vapor comes out on the exhale. This now ranks in my top 5 benefits of becoming a vaper!
 

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Recently my best friend was in the hospital for 6 days after having knee replacement surgery. Because she is a pack and a half a day smoker, I knew that she was going to be having nic fits and jonesing for smokes both before the surgery as well as during her stay. And since it was knee replacement surgery, well, she could not be going outside to smoke, either - she could not walk! So, I went and got her an Njoy kit and a bottle of refills to use while she was in the hospital. She was SO grateful to have that option and not once did a single nurse, or doctor say anything negative to her while she vaped in her room during her stay.

~Tiger
 

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I have had many many hospitalizations and have suffered through each of them due to incompetent, arrogant, abusive and uncommunicative doctors and nurses. This had left me with severe PTSD which rears it's almost unmanageable head any time I have to be near a hospital or doctors even my own doctor whom I like.
Ignorance is simply not a good enough excuse for why a staff member would tell an outright lie to a patient or visitor.
I hold doctors and nurses to a higher standard because we as consumers and patients expect them to know what they are talking about when caring for us even when the evidence say's otherwise. I had another admission earlier in the year for eight days during which I vaped openly and freely and anyone who was curious as many staff were thought it was a much better way to quit especially when there isn't hardly any smell, clouds of second hand smoke or noxious chemicals to "annoy others" as with cigarettes. If you don't know the answer to a question find out!
Lying is wholly unnecessary in my opinion.
I also believe we should never vape as if we're doing something wrong,since we aren't!
Some people will also make the assumption you are in the wrong if your body language presents that image. It is inconceivable to me that hospitals are banning pv usage for patients who smoke when they have quite a bit of evidence that shows vaping is much safer than smoking for those who indulge. I have smoked for almost all of my admissions even when smoking had long been banned they allowed me to smoke in my room because I was impossible to deal with otherwise and I was far too sick to walk. I'm not proud of this but it shows how very much we need to have an alternative method available for those addicted to cigarettes when admitted. The FDA recommended crap simply does not work.
I gave out the names of many of my favorite vendors to the staff who told me they had ordered kits for themselves or loved ones and I was grateful that I could be of some assistance to them. The only person who wasn't impressed with vaping was my surgeon who just touted the FDA press release but could find no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to vape in my room since I had a room by myself. My cardiologist on the other hand could find no changes in my blood pressure {mine is low actually!} or harmful effects from the vaping I was doing then.;)
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GIMike

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Another tip I picked up for stealth vaping is to hold my breathe for a few seconds after the inhale, as almost no vapor comes out on the exhale.

I'm sure there are probably threads upon threads about this on here, but just a quick tip. Instead of holding it in after you take a drag, instead, try this. After taking a drag on your e-cig, before you exhale, take another breath without the e-cig, hold that in, and then breathe out. The 2nd breath in without vapor will allow you to breathe out NO vapor. I use this all the time. You won't be able to take as big a drag off your e-cig as you'll want to save some room in your lungs for the 2nd breath, but it works every time.
 
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