BTW if you plan on opening the mouthpiece all the time, basic feeding is useless to use. I am unfortunate I cannot use this feature of Ithaka because basic feeding does not work with the juices I use.
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Did a few different things and was able to get it out. Seems like this particular match of housing to ceramic (may be housing may be ceramic) is just a tad tighter fit than my other housings.
I thought basic feeding allowed all juice to be used up? Hmmmm....if that's not the case I may shut mine off.
Good to know, may have to try it next time I rebuild. I am think it may help, I rarely refill, usually do a clean and dry burn before using again but one time I did I surprisingly got flooding, and that may help I think not having the basic feeding open.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
Check this post:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/335107-ithaka-official-257.html#post10191089
Depends of a lot of factors, the size of the wick used, the style of coils (arrangement), types of wires : single, dual, etc. final resistance and so on.
For example, right now I have a dual (X) ribbon 0.3mm coil, each one of 1.8ohms for a final resistance of 0.9ohms, 3mm silica. Basic feeding is opened for both channels, mouthpiece fully closed. I do not have to open the mouthpiece at all, no dry hits, good flavor and good vapor.
When I use it with a single coil, two wicks in parallel and the coil joins both wicks at the center, I leave the basic feeding control opened for one channel at each side and make adjustments by using the mouthpiece feeding control.
Or you can just leave the basic liquid feeding control closed for all channels and adjust the liquid feeding with the mouthpiece.
It is just a thing of experimentation to find which is the suitable setup for you.
I have tried both styles (dual coils), I prefer the X style, in my case, that setup gives more vapor, throat hit and flavor:
Air hits both coils by the center (one coil is over the other, just above the center post / air intake), air hits the first coil and part of the second coil, and also, as it has to go up, the surrounding air hits parts of the upper coil.
On parallel setup I got less vapor and throat hit, coils have to be very close each other on the center, so air can hit both coils.
Any way, I'll try again the parallel setup, just to experiment with it again
I use 2mm, 2.5mm, 3mm wicks on my Ithaka. I prefer the 2.5mm, I get better results when the wick is not too tight in the channels but no too loose.
I have not, but I saw a Shiryo's picture on the Ithaka's thread, he configured his Ithaka with micro coils:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/335107-ithaka-official-259.html#post10207119
Thank you for sharing that information Ariel, can't wait to try those tips out!
Using Imeo's suggestion I used a screwdriver to remove the jammed ceramic. Holding the screwdriver against the table and pushing the ceramic out from the exposed section on the bottom of the housing I was able to eventually get it out. It did end up breaking though. The extra ceramic I have does fit right in without any trouble. I am still out one ceramic though.
If you need to do this to your ithaka I def recommend using a towel to protect your fingers from the sharp edges on the ceramic holder or a slip with the screwdriver.
Time to wrap some coils and fire this puppy up!
If you need to do this to your ithaka I def recommend using a towel to protect your fingers from the sharp edges on the ceramic holder or a slip with the screwdriver.
Time to wrap some coils and fire this puppy up!
I've been running duals 1.5 ohm coils in a x configuration. I'll snap a pic of the next set of coils I make up.
I have had a couple minor issues with the two sets of coils I've installed in my ithaka. The first set, one of the resistence wires snapped right at the r/nr junction. It happened fairly quickly about halfway through my first tank which was malty toffee (yum!). Even with one coil firing it was still vaping pretty good so I didn't sweat it. On this set of coils (again dual 1.5 ohm) the resistance went from .7 to 1 ohm fairly quickly (about 1/4 tank). It is now up to about 1.2 ohm at the end of the tank. I'm going to take it apart to see what the issue is before refilling it again. For wick I've been using 1.5mm ekowool in the ithaka.
In my other devices however I made the channels in the v1 ceramic version larger to accept a lil something I've been playing around with. At first I was running small wicks down the channels with extra wick across the top like everyone else. Then I started thinking how ekowool and Nextel are made to be high temp sleeving, so I thought I would try using it as such.
I took some 2mm ekowool and used a very large needle to thread some 1mm reg silica through it. Bam! Two wicks in one and its pretty much perfectly round. The silica is plain old silica nothing special there, it holds juice. But the Nextel surrounding it wicks that juice from the inner wick to the coil very well. It also takes the heat of the coil better then the standard silica.
(I know these weren't my best r/nr junctions lol)
So with this ~ 2.5 mm hybrid wick I wrapped a 1.7 ohm 28ga "micro" like coil around it. Not a true 1.5mm micro but damn does it put out a moist tasty vape, soooo much flavor it makes my taste buds smile just thinking about it.
I was amazed at how moist the vape is from this coil. I've gone through like three or four tanks of juice and it vapes the same as it did 10 minutes into using it.
Ok nuff bout ody gonna see what's up w the ithaka coils. And again it's still vaping pretty well, I just want to see what's going on in there
I have had a couple minor issues with the two sets of coils I've installed in my ithaka. The first set, one of the resistence wires snapped right at the r/nr junction. It happened fairly quickly about halfway through my first tank which was malty toffee (yum!). Even with one coil firing it was still vaping pretty good so I didn't sweat it. On this set of coils (again dual 1.5 ohm) the resistance went from .7 to 1 ohm fairly quickly (about 1/4 tank). It is now up to about 1.2 ohm at the end of the tank. I'm going to take it apart to see what the issue is before refilling it again. For wick I've been using 1.5mm ekowool in the ithaka.
In my other devices however I made the channels in the v1 ceramic version larger to accept a lil something I've been playing around with. At first I was running small wicks down the channels with extra wick across the top like everyone else. Then I started thinking how ekowool and Nextel are made to be high temp sleeving, so I thought I would try using it as such.
I took some 2mm ekowool and used a very large needle to thread some 1mm reg silica through it. Bam! Two wicks in one and its pretty much perfectly round. The silica is plain old silica nothing special there, it holds juice. But the Nextel surrounding it wicks that juice from the inner wick to the coil very well. It also takes the heat of the coil better then the standard silica.
(I know these weren't my best r/nr junctions lol)
So with this ~ 2.5 mm hybrid wick I wrapped a 1.7 ohm 28ga "micro" like coil around it. Not a true 1.5mm micro but damn does it put out a moist tasty vape, soooo much flavor it makes my taste buds smile just thinking about it.
I was amazed at how moist the vape is from this coil. I've gone through like three or four tanks of juice and it vapes the same as it did 10 minutes into using it.
Ok nuff bout ody gonna see what's up w the ithaka coils. And again it's still vaping pretty well, I just want to see what's going on in there
So when I took my setup apart I didn't see a broken coil like I expected. It turns out my r/nr junctions are coming loose. So I recoiled it using nickle nr wire this time hoping the extra stiffness would make for a better hold. I don't think it did as I'm reading varying resistance this time. I've had readings from .6 ohm (expected) up to like 2.2 ohm on one measurement. So I'm guessing both coils have a loose r/nr junction. It still vapes very well and I should have no problem getting through this tank of juice, I'll get a set of coils ready to go for the next refill and try try again. It is kinda funny, I really haven't had this happen since the first couple r/nr coils I made. Perhaps I'm making the first twist tight enough, or perhaps I should add a few extra wraps of nr around the first twist. I've been thinking about pulling out the wire wielder to try and get it working. After many failed wields I gave up and used the twist method.
Here are a couple pics of my coils and x config setup
Here are a couple pics of my coils and x config setup
Nice coils. The micro one looks great. I had bad experience with welder as well. Your twists are fine as long as they are not loose. They look neat. But your dual coils have coils too far apart. Is this intentional?
So when I took my setup apart I didn't see a broken coil like I expected. It turns out my r/nr junctions are coming loose. So I recoiled it using nickle nr wire this time hoping the extra stiffness would make for a better hold. I don't think it did as I'm reading varying resistance this time. I've had readings from .6 ohm (expected) up to like 2.2 ohm on one measurement. So I'm guessing both coils have a loose r/nr junction. It still vapes very well and I should have no problem getting through this tank of juice, I'll get a set of coils ready to go for the next refill and try try again. It is kinda funny, I really haven't had this happen since the first couple r/nr coils I made. Perhaps I'm making the first twist tight enough, or perhaps I should add a few extra wraps of nr around the first twist. I've been thinking about pulling out the wire wielder to try and get it working. After many failed wields I gave up and used the twist method.
Here are a couple pics of my coils and x config setup
It is possible your connections are touching the mouthpiece causing a short especially if it is on the posative side. I always try to make sure my joints on posative side are on the bottom and inside the ceramic if possible for this very reason.
I had the same trouble. I had been building mine without issue then one day had to rebuild 4 freaking times because it shorted out every time. I finally figured out it was because I had my connections on top and the mouthpiece was contacting them. Rebuilt it and made sure they were underneath the wrap and I didn't have any further issues with it.
Hi there thank you for the compliment! I love that micro I have been vaping it for almost three weeks w/o rebuilding it. The silica sheathed in ekowool seems to be holding up very well. Also the larger 28 ga does not get nearly as hot as 32 ga at the same current even though it has the same amount of power going through the coil. A very dense, very cool, moist and flavorful vape. It could hear up just a lil quicker but I can over look that for the flavor I get from it.
On the dual x coils:
I did wrap the coils far apart like that on purpose. I was trying to eliminate a hot spot in between the two wicks, minimize the coils touching while giving more coil coverage to "legs" of the wicks. If I am way off on that someone please lay some knowledge on me
I hear you in the keeping the r/nr junctions from touching the mouthpiece and shorting out. From a side view the junctions are down below the ceramic ever so slightly.
So far here's a quick summery of my ithaka experience:
First setup- resistance wire snapped at junction on the top most coil
Second setup- noticed resistance went from dual coil to single coil so I rebuilt to find r/nr junctions were loose
Third setup- I believe my r/nr junction loosened up as I am getting varying resistance readings from .6ohm(expected) up to 2 ohm (coils were 1.5 ohm when built)
It is possible that I somehow shorted on the mouthpiece but I have it almost completely open as I'm vaping some thick juice and the wicks are pretty tight in the channels. I think what im doing wrong is after my first coil snapped I have been afraid of making the first twists/pigtail not tight enough before the six or so wraps around that. I think I will try like you suggest and place the coil/wicks in the ceramic wih the junctions tucked underneath just to be on the safe side.
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