Vape shop sued for over a Million dollars because of exploding battery
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The video was actually linked here earlier, but here is the link again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KndKJ-COBw
Speaking as a frequent soup-maker, I've learned a few things about blowing on that spoonful of broth.
I can hear the collective "oww!" now.What is next? Back to Radios/Hair Dryers in Bath tubs?
If the dwelling is "up to code" (yet another of those "regulation" things, but that one actually useful!!), the GFCI should kick in, and the ones within so many feet of a source of water, have to be GFCI. If it's not up to code, then all bets are off.
Oh absolutely, it really is a miracle that homo sapiens has survived. It must be that ability to learn from our mistakes... if we're paying attention.
Some of the regs really are useful, with you're dealing with something like electricity or gas or other volatiles, or even prescription narcotics, which are dangerous even when used properly. They just need to stick with things that REALLY DO need to be regulated, and even the FDA says that nicotine isn't one of those, or why else would they permit OTC nicotine sales for any purpose? I could much more easily understand greater regulations on batteries, than on <100mg nicotine.Andria
no the facts were that McD's served coffee just as hot as everyone else.
the facts are back then people expected to get their coffee hot as it
insured maximum flavor, the facts are now days standard coffee makers
brew to about 140 degrees F. precisely because of liability issues.the facts
are that's why coffee is so expensive because its hard to find a blend that
will give you old time flavor at current time brewing temps.the facts are newer establishments
are going back to higher temp brewing because the coffee tastes better.
the facts are they tell their customers be careful its hot it may burn you.
because in the end hot stuff can and will burn you.
there was no negligence at all. back in the day we knew hot stuff can and will
burn you.
mike
I read the whole case and saw the pics for that McD's case. The coffee wasn't just hot, it was almost super-heated, and not anything like the temp of our coffee makers at home.....the employees at that location also noted that there were a lot of complaints and that the equipment wasn't operating properly and they had told management and the coffee maker was never fixed, etc. People who haven't done the research into this case, in depth, will not understand this.
As a previous poster mentioned, reading is excrutiating to some people and they won't do it, they just read a headline and make assumptions.
I do find it interesting that the VERY THING that vapers complain about, i.e. headlines about ecigs blowing up, without proper details, gives vaping a bad rap..........but the same people have NO PROBLEM jumping to the same conclusions about the McDonald's Coffee Incident.
the reason why your coffee maker at home don't brew that hot is
directly related to the liability the courts dumped on the industry
with this asinine decision.
mike
Really? Let me repeat the main point here; 3rd degree burns, 3 seconds. And at least one of those 700 or so settlements was where an employee leaned out the window to give the person their coffee and lost their grip on the cup, causing the contents to spill into the lap of the customer.
If you're stupid enough to put a mod battery in your pocket with your keys and it shorts, you have at least some lead time to get the pants off before your junk goes up in flames. Spill a cup of coffee at 170 degrees on you lap and Mr. Willie gets a skin graft no matter how fast you work to prevent it.
let me repeat my main point. most children by the age of three can and do
differentiate the difference between hot and cold.
an employee causing harm is completely different than an individual not
taking due care.
mike
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Let's steer this back to the vaping issue ok?
Ahem!
Back to vaping or this thread will get closed.
Doh.Ahem!
Back to vaping or this thread will get closed.
Sorry.
Battery lessons need to be taught. And please not by a link to batt u...
Tapatyped
Speaking as a frequent soup-maker, I've learned a few things about blowing on that spoonful of broth.
If the dwelling is "up to code" (yet another of those "regulation" things, but that one actually useful!!), the GFCI should kick in, and the ones within so many feet of a source of water, have to be GFCI. If it's not up to code, then all bets are off.
Oh absolutely, it really is a miracle that homo sapiens has survived. It must be that ability to learn from our mistakes... if we're paying attention.
Andria
Why 100mg?
Tapatyped
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Multi quoting may also need to be taught.
Walmart sells Racks full of batteries, Automotive Batteries, Deep cycle Batteries, Rechargeable Lithium Batteries, etc. Wonder when they hold their classes?
Multi quoting may also need to be taught.
Walmart sells Racks full of batteries, Automotive Batteries, Deep cycle Batteries, Rechargeable Lithium Batteries, etc. Wonder when they hold their classes?
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Mainly because 100mg is a good compromise between price/storage/measuring, and the pure lethality of any stronger concentration. Any layperson who takes reasonable precautions -- no hazmat suit required -- a critical point for those who make most or all of what they vape. Anything stronger would require far more than merely "reasonable" precautions.
Andria
Ahem!
Back to vaping or this thread will get closed.
I'd argue that we are drawing parallels between two similar circumstances to illustrate our points.
That being said, arguing anything over the Internet is pointless.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "You know, my opinion on this hot button issue has been completely swayed by an anonymous stranger on an Internet message board."
One last post - just in case this gets locked sooner than later.
Be Smart - Vape Safe everyone!
Be Smart - Vape Safe everyone!
The only batteries I ever buy at WalMart are Duracell and Eveready. I bought a car battery from them once. It lasted a week. Luckily I was able to return it and get a full refund. Went to Sears and got a Die Hard after that.
Genius! :SMH:
They don't have a single battery in open cell form we or many other hobbies and industries use that pack such potential energy into such a small form factor with such possibilities to let it all out so suddenly... especially in a pocket.
What would they teach?
100mg is a good compromise, I guess. Never did anything to me but make my junk warm and tingly and make me cough, though.
Methinks ld50 and related "lethal doses" may still be blown way out of proportion.
If you wash 100mg off after a spill, the effects seem to be nil according to experiences of my wife and I.
Tapatyped
At first I feared the 100mg, but then, I feared dry burning coils at first too.
Now if I'm just measuring some in a syringe for a recipe, I don't fear it sufficiently to even wear gloves, though anytime I'm *pouring* it, I do wear gloves -- and a good thing I did last night, when I was pouring the last bit of a 120ml bottle into one of my usual amber glass bottles -- it was ever so slightly more than the bottle would hold, so it was fortunate I was pouring it over the sink, with gloves on. But I'm much too phobic about nausea/vomiting to ever want 100mg to contact my skin. The main reason I leave it as such a strong concentration is because a) it's easier to measure it and store it that way, and b) 30ml bottles are cheaper than 60ml bottles.I can't say I *fear* the IMR batteries, but I do have extreme respect for their potential. And this thread has persuaded me that my slightly-mashed-in flat-top 18650 should be properly recycled rather than just left in my drawer. So I'm hitting Home Depot today, to recycle that one, and also those maker-unknown counterfeit batteries I bought some time back. I've learned enough from all the battery gurus around here to know better than to use anonymous or slightly-damaged batteries, or even to store them against the infamous rainy day; with these powerful batteries it doesn't pay at all to be penny-wise and pound-foolish.
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