Vaping After a Heart Attack / After Heart Disease Diagnosis

[TyPie]

I have looked for and read everything I could find regarding nicotine consumption via smokeless delivery / ecig after having suffered a heart attack and / or being diagnosed with heart disease, but there doesn't appear to be a lot out there. I'm not sure that vaping AFTER these circumstances has been addressed much. I have family that have been diagnosed that are asking me about this. I'm also interested for myself. Any info or experience any of you may have will be much appreciated.

If you vape and have heart disease or had a heart attack, are you using nicotine?
What are your doctors saying?
What's your experience?
Are there any studies citing smokeless nicotine use after a heart event?

 

[TyPie]

Bump.
Anybody?
No one vaping after a heart attack or after being diagnosed with heart disease?

 

[MorpheusPA]

I have an atrial arrhythmia and my cardiologist couldn't be happier that I quit smoking and turned to the electronic--and that I'm turning down the nicotine. While my meds keep me from having any issues at all, I do notice that things are more stable as my nicotine level drops. At this point, the way I feel is indistinguishable from a person without this problem and it hasn't acted up in ages.

As with any disease, definitely consult your doctor about vaping before assuming it's harmless. There certainly are plenty of diseases where nicotine is absolutely contraindicated, just like any medication be it prescription or OTC.

I do know one older lady with severe enough problems she has to avoid any stimulant, including caffeine, in any amount. It wouldn't be good to find out you're in this particular boat the hard way...

 

[josie wales]

I had a minor stoke in 2007 and what they called an "indecent" in 2013. Diagnosed with a 70% blockage in right coronary artery. My doctors seem to have no opinion on vaping and they are glad I quit smoking cigarettes.

 

[MustangSallie]

My husband just had a heart attack in January. His second actually. They put in a stent. The cardiologist at the hospital who did the stent was supportive of the eCig, which my husband has been using for over 2 years. She thinks the eventual goal is to get off nicotine altogether, but that's not surprising. My husbands regular cardiologist feels the same way she does, it's orders of magnitude better than smoking a regular cigarette, but nicotine is still a chemical that should probably be avoided in certain heart patients in the same way they encourage those same patients to avoid caffeine.

 

[MsAgro]

Not had a heart attack but have suffered cardiac arrest twice thanks to a congenital condition. The majority of my cardio team are rather intolerant to the notion of both smoking and vaping. I asked at my last visit (before I actually started vaping) and he told me that he viewed them as the same. His nurse on the other hand seemed to have a slightly different view, she urged me to quit nicotine completely but felt that the limited ingredients in ejuice was at least a lesser evil than the numerous chemicals in an analog. My family practice doc was pretty on board with vaping though. Like my cardio nurse, she asked me to think about eliminating nicotine completely considering my health history. And she asked me to exercise caution considering the lack of long term studies.

I don't know about any published studies though...

 

[awj03130]

AFAIK (nursing school, Mensa, emergency medicine), nicotene causes systemic nervous system stimulation. That means increased risk of vasospasm (blood vessels close up), heart arrhythmias (fast/slow/irregular heartbeat) and increased blood pressure. Doesn't cause sclerosis (hardening of blood vessels which can cause increased blood pressure and increasing risk of clot formation/stroke/fatal heart arrhythmias) if I am correct. I can look up info from drug resources if need be.

Although you should certainly seek the advice of your physician, it would seem to me reducing any load on your heart would be smart. Less nic, caffeine, strenuous exercise, stress, etc...

While the delivery system (Cig/transdermal patch/vape) may change, the effects of nicotene do not. Such is the case with all drugs - the effect of a fast acting or delayed release Tylenol is the same, just in differing time frames.

Dropping down/quitting nic is only good. Just like quitting smoking is good. The less your body has to deal with, the better.


Can a pharmacist or doctor chime in here?

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[Tmartin63]

I have had 7 stents placed, 3 heart attacks and open heart surgery. I still smoked for about a year and half after surgery..dumb, stupid, etc..I know. But I found vaping in February 2012. Since then my cardiologist and family practitioner have found nothing wrong in any test I've had. Both know I vape and are extremely happy I finally quit smoking after 30 years. My blood pressure still tends to be a little on the high side when I go in (140/90), but everything else is perfect. They attribute that to "white coat syndrome" because at home I'm typically around 115/70. Chest X-ray's perfect, blood work perfect, stress test perfect. I always had some type of episode at lest once year after I turned 40, since the first of 2012 not once had an issue at all.

I have vaped 24mg since I started vaping and continue that today. I have purchased some 18 but really don't have desire to drop my nic level because I still crave the throat hit. I recently purchased some menthol juice to see if I can still achieve the throat hit. Only time will tell but right now I'm happy and healthy. Good luck in your journey

 

[TyPie]

I have had 7 stents placed, 3 heart attacks and open heart surgery. I still smoked for about a year and half after surgery..dumb, stupid, etc..I know. But I found vaping in February 2012. Since then my cardiologist and family practitioner have found nothing wrong in any test I've had. Both know I vape and are extremely happy I finally quit smoking after 30 years. My blood pressure still tends to be a little on the high side when I go in (140/90), but everything else is perfect. They attribute that to "white coat syndrome" because at home I'm typically around 115/70. Chest X-ray's perfect, blood work perfect, stress test perfect. I always had some type of episode at lest once year after I turned 40, since the first of 2012 not once had an issue at all.

I have vaped 24mg since I started vaping and continue that today. I have purchased some 18 but really don't have desire to drop my nic level because I still crave the throat hit. I recently purchased some menthol juice to see if I can still achieve the throat hit. Only time will tell but right now I'm happy and healthy. Good luck in your journey

This is a great post, T. Some story! Continued good health to you!
As I write this, I am vaping to your health!

 

[TyPie]

AFAIK (nursing school, Mensa, emergency medicine), nicotene causes systemic nervous system stimulation. That means increased risk of vasospasm (blood vessels close up), heart arrhythmias (fast/slow/irregular heartbeat) and increased blood pressure. Doesn't cause sclerosis (hardening of blood vessels which can cause increased blood pressure and increasing risk of clot formation/stroke/fatal heart arrhythmias) if I am correct. I can look up info from drug resources if need be.

Although you should certainly seek the advice of your physician, it would seem to me reducing any load on your heart would be smart. Less nic, caffeine, strenuous exercise, stress, etc...

While the delivery system (Cig/transdermal patch/vape) may change, the effects of nicotene do not. Such is the case with all drugs - the effect of a fast acting or delayed release Tylenol is the same, just in differing time frames.

Dropping down/quitting nic is only good. Just like quitting smoking is good. The less your body has to deal with, the better.


Can a pharmacist or doctor chime in here?

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awj,
This all makes some perfectly good sense to me.

 

[Julie W]

Here's one Doctors opinion on vaping (yes he is also promoting a brand)but a lot of common sense spoken none the less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbtcRH7PnVI

Electronic Cigarettes from a Health Experts point of view

 

[susie canasta]

TMMartin63
Tops post. Thank you. Glad you are well!

 

[Tmartin63]

Thank you so much. I am very VERY lucky. I'm just happy I found a way to stop the madness called smoking. My story is proof of how bad the addiction can be to cigs. More importantly how effective vaping can be. Keep up the good fight everyone

 

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[TyPie]

Bumped.........still interested in hearing observations and stories from vapers who continue to vape after heart issues. Thanks all...

 

[brianne]

Also very interested if i can still vape after a heart attack.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Vaping is certainly better than smoking -- but not as healthy as not vaping. And nicotine IS a vasal constrictor. So the question is, can you quit? If not, you're much better off vaping than smoking. Can you vape with 0mg nic? If not, then certainly keep your nic low.

I encourage those contemplating these issue to consider those they love and dependents -- you certainly may be playing with you life. And, if you proceed, certainly compensate with exercise and healthy eating.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or scientist in this field. This is simply based on my observations, experience and reading.

 

[RosaJ]

Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos conducted a study of the effects of ecig vapor on heart/vascular tissue. Check out the CASAA website when you have a chance.

 

[bencooper74]

I have had 3 heart attacks in the past. Then about 2 years ago I was diagnosed with CHF due to cardiomyopathy, and have had only 10% heart function. I need to get a heart transplant, but I am ineligible unless I am nicotine free for at least 6 months. But, my doctors all agree that they much prefer me vaping rather than smoking. My transplant doctor even says that the nicotine itself is not damaging to the heart by itself. She is even going to try and convince the board that I should be able to receive the transplant anyway. Of course she wants me to try and get to 0nic, but she is very happy that I am no longer on the stinkies.