Vaping and breathalyser tests........

[Rangertrix]

apparently I'm pretty good at "sensationalizing" things because my only desire was to make conversation and present a comedic response about a very serious problem we, as a vaping community, face with the media and the public. My primary focus was not the danger of being accused of DUI/DWI from vaping, but more along the lines of where and how will others try to use this data to make headlines by trying to placing negative connotation onto vaping.

 

[Rangertrix]

sorry. double post.

 

[skoony]

Oh I'm sure the "Alcohol in e-Liquids" story will make the rounds in some Media Outlets. And then do what All Media Stories do when there is No More new News about it. Or when Something Bigger comes along. And that is to Die a Quiet Death.

I hope your right Zman however, as far as I can tell no negative vaping related news true or false
dies a quiet death. The stories just keep resurfacing like a half waterlogged tree in the river.
Regards
Mike

 

[zoiDman]

I hope your right Zman however, as far as I can tell no negative vaping related news true or false
dies a quiet death. The stories just keep resurfacing like a half waterlogged tree in the river.
Regards
Mike

I think in this case, the Ridiculously Small amount of Alcohol is forcing Editors to Exercise some Common Sense. Even when they would like to Hype the Holy Hell out of a Negative e-Cigarette "Study".

 

[YoursTruli]

Now we have to worry about booze in our vapes.

 

[Tache]

I'm not convinced on the flavour (spelling is correct if you live in Canada <grin>) spin. PG is an alcohol so highly likely that it is the culprit if, in fact, non-drinking vapers are testing positive on breathalyzer tests.

 

[Archer74]

A few years ago, we test people where I work for alcohol using alcohol test strips. I keep the strips in my pocket and sometimes I forget and take them home with me. Long story short, I vape and used a strip to test myself and it came out positive. Some flavors have trace amounts of alcohol and some do not. Even same flavors from different manufacturers may or may not use alcohol as a flavor solvent.

 

[Rangertrix]

Now we have to worry about booze in our vapes.

I don't worry about booze in my vape. Hell, if I had some special liquids for use at home where I could kill two birds with one stone, I'd be all over it!

 

[Endor]

Siegel mentioned this (or a similar) study in a blog post a few weeks ago (it's not clear if its the same as the study is behind a paywall):

The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: Yet Another E-Cigarette Study Draws Conclusions that are Unsupported by the Actual Data; This Time, Researchers Claim Vaping Can Cause Car Crashes

A key piece is that plasma alcohol levels did not rise, only a small amount of metabolite in the urine of 3 participants were detected after vaping eliquid containing 23.5% (!) alcohol. No mention of breathalyzers by Siegel, so not sure if its in the study (I haven't read it since its behind the aforementioned paywall).

Of course, the media outlets pick this up and claim that this study proves e-cigarettes cause you to get drunk (unknowingly, mind you), drive around (unknowingly drunk), and plow into minivans full of children.... yet another reason to ban them!

 

[Rangertrix]

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Siegel mentioned this (or a similar) study in a blog post a few weeks ago (it's not clear if its the same as the study is behind a paywall):

The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: Yet Another E-Cigarette Study Draws Conclusions that are Unsupported by the Actual Data; This Time, Researchers Claim Vaping Can Cause Car Crashes

A key piece is that plasma alcohol levels did not rise, only a small amount of metabolite in the urine of 3 participants were detected after vaping eliquid containing 23.5% (!) alcohol. No mention of breathalyzers by Siegel, so not sure if its in the study (I haven't read it since its behind the aforementioned paywall).

Of course, the media outlets pick this up and claim that this study proves e-cigarettes cause you to get drunk (unknowingly, mind you), drive around (unknowingly drunk), and plow into minivans full of children.... yet another reason to ban them!

23.5% !?! Was the liquid they used made by Seagram's?

 

[Endor]

23.5% !?! Was the liquid they used made by Seagram's?

Whatever it takes to get the results they want to further demonize vaping. Per Siegel, the authors have some serious conflicts of interest, so my comment isn't much of a stretch.

 

[Rangertrix]

Whatever it takes to get the results they want to further demonize vaping. Per Siegel, the authors have some serious conflicts of interest, so my comment isn't much of a stretch.

Oh, I believe every word. Just goes to further my point.
Sad our country has come to this. Time was when the pioneers of vaping would have been praised. Now, its all about profit and capitalization.