vaping and health questions please help

[Ryder]

Clearly vaping is a better alternative to smoking, but how big of a detrimental effect do experienced vapers notice on their lungs and cardiovascular ability? I'm asking this because i am about to buy a 510 as well as some juice in addition to my blu. i do enjoy vaping but don't want to continue doing this is it's really not much better than smoking analogs. Also, has anyone tried the juices from healthcabin?

 

[KevinD872]

Everything I've read on this forum from long-term vapers has been positive with positive lung/health improvements. I'm sure others will chime in as well, and I think there are threads on the subject too.

But you already know one thing: They are healthier than a real cigarette!

 

[lordmage]

hope Op don't mind i changed the title to more accurately represent the topic i am also gonna move it to the health section for better coverage

 

[bigbear8481]

Hey,

I have been vaping for a few days, but I have experience in smoking & quitting.

I have tried to quit analogs 5 times in the 15 years I have been smoking. Each time i quit, I found the same things to happen.

Within the 1st few days I began to smell & taste a bit better.

My lungs would feel like they where aching, but after research i found that meant they are healing. The Cilla in my lungs where growing back after being burned away from the heat of the smoke inhaled, so with that came the smokers cough to clear my lungs from the crap from the analogs.

Its my second day. i already have a smokers cough that is clearing my lungs. In fact, it happened faster this time. Maybe its because my lungs are staying moist from the vapor. Not sure.

The ingredients in E-Juice is simple. Nicotine, PG or VG, water, flavor & maybe a few different things here & there. Although these are found in regular analogs, IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE OF THE 600-4000 known bad for you ingredients in analogs such as the following:

Fungicides and pesticides -- Cause many types of cancers and birth defects.

Cadmium -- Linked to lung and prostate cancer.

Benzene -- Linked to leukemia.

Formaldehyde -- Linked to lung cancer.

Nickel -- Causes increased susceptibility to lung infections.

Ammonia: Household cleaner

Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals

Arsenic: Used in rat poisons

Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber

Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid

Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas

Cadmium: Used in batteries

Cyanide: Deadly poison

DDT: A banned insecticide

Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals

Lead: Poisonous in high doses

Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens

Methoprene: Insecticide

Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice

Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics

Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs

Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984

Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element

and on and on and on.

No matter what, even if Vaping is not the greatest thing, (i think it is ) its 100000000X better than analogs.

Now you mentioned Cardio-vascular. Nicotine itself does raise your BP somewhat, but so does getting angry, eating, talking, & sex. So is it really bad for you?, jury is still out on that one.

But like everything, to much is not good. Diet & exercise is a good idea. Smokers find it hard to exercise because they run out of breath. Their lungs are full of crap & their O2 exchange suffers because of it. You cant feed your body the O2 it needs when you cant get it in.

i will keep you updated on my progress. I am going to re-start my working out routine while I continue to Vap to see if it effects me or not.

C YA around,

Bear

 

[SquirrilahFish]

I work as an EMT, and have been very cautious about my health, its been about a month off now.
Negative affects: vaping has the potential to dry out your throat and making it very sore however I got a upper GI series xray that shows there are no perminent damage, its just really sore from drying, Another danger is pleural effusion, over moistened spot in the lung, or pleurisy (dry spot on the lung) this is caused not only by the moisture form vapor, but from the chemicals left from tobacco clearing out of your lungs. I dont think it is very common however, and again leaves no perminent damage, it pressents as chest pain, Negative pressure can relieve the pain (exhale hard without exhaling, kinda like when you plug your nose and blow to equalize pressure in your ears, only for your lungs)
Nicotine, can cause some known heart problems, but the general consensis is you get less from vaping then from smoking. However there does seem to be more of a suppression of appitite from vaping (i dont know why just my experience)
Positives: within the first week you will start to have more energy, and generally feel better, soon after your lungs will start to clear out, and you may feel sick and have difficulty breathing, exercise, lots of fluids, and good diet are very important through the "cleansing" stage. it can take as long as 2 months to fully clear out your system (depending on how much you smoke) but after you are totally clear of tobacco and adjusted to vaping, you should feel great! like a non-smoker, save the nicotine.
These are just my opinions and observations of mine and others experiences

 

[Rogue X2 v2]

^ interest fece, fish!

 

[Moonflame]

I have Fibromyalgia and Lupus and I have felt better since I switched from smoking to vaping. I had a cold that didn't turn into bronchitis, which hasn't happened in 20 years. And I haven't had a flare that wasn't due to monthly hormone changes. I don't think I've felt this well for this long in a very long time.

If you are interested in info on all of the research into inhaling PG done in the past 60 years check out vapersclub.com. I found it when I was searching for info after I decided to switch to e-cigs to save money and my mom asked about what I'd be inhaling.

My sister in law has emphysema and has an appointment with her lung doctor in Sept. She started vaping,and quit smoking, 2 weeks after I did and I can't wait to see what the results from her tests show. I know she is breathing better and has started walking about 3 miles a day, but it will be nice to be able to have medical evidence to show the family that these really are better for us.

 

[SLDS181]

PG & VG are not bio-cumulative, so there would be no long term effects.

Studies conducted on the inhalation of PG and VG show that peak exposure can cause respiratory irritation, but it isn't permanent. If your throat is getting sore, you should be drinking more water, and/or vaping less.

It is FAR better than smoking cigarettes.

 

[Rogue X2 v2]

^ amen !

 

[doots]

I just know I feel better. Much better

 

[InTheCity]

Who can say what the long term, LONG TERM health consequences will be?

I've stated before that my personal goal with the E-Cig was to take away the worry of being a hugely conflicted analog smoker, where every cigarette punishingly eats away at your soul, they would make me reflect poorly on my self-esteem and will power. I felt like a slave to something I loved, yet hated so much.

With the E-Cig I don't feel trapped, although I'm aware of my addition, its not consuming me day by day and the intention is to eventually quit this device too.

I can't speak for others, but I'm not 'as' addicted anymore, I left the house today for 6 hours without my device and when I returned home I only contemplated for a moment whether or not I should vape for a few minutes. I didn't bother, I exercised instead with all this new found energy.

It's not been without a few flaws. My 510 started leaking, sometimes I get a dry throat thats slightly annoying, but I've never once in this 4 weeks been tempted to by a pack of smokes.

It's a miracle. Jump on the bandwagon, convincing yourself you can do it is the hard part, until you have a device in hand and you see how much better it is.

 

[Ryder]

Wow....

First of all i'd like to say that the forum etiquette here is phenomenal. I've never been on a forum that was so helpful and respectful to new members. I sincerely appreciate that. I am currently sick and was afraid I may be allergic to PG, but after asking a highly knowledgeable fellow employee at the vitamin shoppe if that was the likely case, he told me that half of the protein powders/bars (most of which i have tried) have pg as an ingredient. I was very relieved to hear this as vaping is helping me out a lot in multiple ways. my cardio ability is coming back and it feels great. Smoking was holding me down a lot. I was apprehensive to even do cardio because I knew I'd be short of breath and I didn't even want to feel it. It's a shame when your body can easily withstand vigorous exercise yet your lungs hold you back.

I'm going to make the plunge and buy a 501 and some juices in addition to my blu. I've decided to keep the blu as the parts are interchangeable and I just honestly don't want to deal with customer service.

Thanks to everyone who contributed some of these posts were incredibly helpful.

 

[SquirrilahFish]

I have Fibromyalgia and Lupus and I have felt better since I switched from smoking to vaping. I had a cold that didn't turn into bronchitis, which hasn't happened in 20 years. And I haven't had a flare that wasn't due to monthly hormone changes. I don't think I've felt this well for this long in a very long time.

If you are interested in info on all of the research into inhaling PG done in the past 60 years check out vapersclub.com. I found it when I was searching for info after I decided to switch to e-cigs to save money and my mom asked about what I'd be inhaling.

My sister in law has emphysema and has an appointment with her lung doctor in Sept. She started vaping,and quit smoking, 2 weeks after I did and I can't wait to see what the results from her tests show. I know she is breathing better and has started walking about 3 miles a day, but it will be nice to be able to have medical evidence to show the family that these really are better for us.

if its not too personal could you post the results, i am very curious as well. I have a COPD patient that we pick up weekly for diffuculty breathing, because the dumby still smokes, He told us last time he was switching to ecigs, and I haven't heard from him sinse, maybe hes just switched to another shift, but that would be cool if he just hasn't called.

 

[Moonflame]

I'll post what results she tells me about. I know she's definitely feeling better, so I'm really excited to find out what x-rays and stuff show.

 

[DSal1]

Please do post the results. I really would like to know what the results are as i have the same problems. I have been vaping for 3 weeks and have not had a analog since.