Vaping, difficulty focusing, depression, and anxiety

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Phairoh

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Let me begin by stating that the contents of this post are entirely my own observations regarding my own personal experiences. I am in no way attempting to make any broad assumptions or claims and simply want to share some information that I hope might be helpful to others.

I quit smoking and started vaping August 15th, 2013. Between that date and yesterday (8 months, 20 days) I had perhaps a dozen cigarettes and for pretty much all of that I had been extremely happy with my experience. I had smoked about 10 years and at my peak I smoked about a pack every 2 days so I was obviously extremely happy to have quit the cancer sticks. I began with Blu but very quickly progressed to a ProVari and any number of different clearos. My most recent setup has been a ProVari and a Kayfun Lite Plus. I began at 18mg nic liquid but then after a couple months moved to 12mg nic and have stuck with that ever since. Without naming particular brands of juice I can just say that I have used at least a dozen different brands from the lower priced ones all the way up to the very top of the top high end.

A few months ago, I can't say exactly when, I began to notice that I was having a more difficult time than usual focusing on work. I also began to have higher than normal levels of anxiety and was also feeling increasingly depressed. I say "higher than normal" and "increasingly depressed" because I've struggled with these issues for years and have reached out for professional help on more than one occasion. In addition to this, I had been feeling increasingly lethargic. More and more days went by with me sitting at my computer, watching videos, streams, whatever I could to fill my brain, vaping all the while, knowing I had things to do and wanting to do them, but being unable to bring myself to do them. When I would sit down to do work my thoughts were foggy and I found it quite literally impossible to even think about the task at hand. This increasingly added to my anxiety as I'd worry about not being able to complete the tasks that I knew I had to complete, which caused me to want to forget about everything, so I'd go back and fill my brain with more videos, and you can see where the cycle goes from there. I thought it was depression, or adult ADD, or some kind of anxiety disorder, and in fact I still do think that all of those things are VERY real possibilities and will continue to go see my doctor.

The reason I'm posting this in this forum is because yesterday afternoon, as I was vaping my delicious creme brulee juice, I felt exactly this way, yet for reasons I cannot recall I decided to put the vape down and didn't pick it up again for the rest of the day. By the time I went to bed, my head felt just a little clearer. When I woke up this morning I resolved to not vape at all simply as a test to see if I saw a change in my mental health. What occurred for me today was nothing short of miraculous. I wasn't tired at all during the day. I was able to focus on my work and I got more done today than I had in weeks and thoroughly enjoyed what I was doing! I bought a pack of cigarettes for the first time in almost 9 months and had about 5 smokes during the course of the day, which admittedly was probably the worst idea ever, but I wanted to control for nicotine as best I could.

I want to know if anyone else has had any similar experiences. Is there anyone out there with diagnosed (or undiagnosed) mental health issues that have seen some sort of correlation with vaping? Are there people who have no previous mental health issues and yet feel vaping has affected their mental state negatively? Or positively for that matter!

Again, please note that I in no way want people to stop vaping and start smoking again! I have gotten a number of my friends to switch to vaping and will continue to push vaping to any and all smokers that want to make a change. Just know that prior to today I don't think that I would have even had the ability to focus long enough to write this post let alone finish all the work that I got done today.
 
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alisa1970

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There have been a few reports of lethargy due to the nicotine content in vapor. When you stopped vaping, did you also not smoke? If so, you could try lowering your nicotine level to 6-9mg. Especially with a Kayfun (I can't vape higher than 6 with an RTA or dripping). If not, I would suggest that you may have a thyroid issue. There is evidence that thyroid problems can be triggered or exacerbated after smoking cessation. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease at about the 4 month mark. Exact same symptoms as yours, which got better after smoking again. Once I got on proper hormone replacement, those issues went away and I have not smoked since.

Get a full thyroid panel done. 'Normal" test results do not necessarily mean you don't have hypothyroidism.
 

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I've had clinical depression all of my life, well controlled in general for quite a few years now. Nicotine is known to help with depression, and I've had major issues in the past when quitting smoking. With vaping the only issue I've had was when I cut back on the amount of nicotine. Since I increased it again I've been fine.

Though I have also read that some of the other chemicals in smoking also help with mental health issues, and have seen whole tobacco alkaloids recommended for people whose symptoms have gotten worse during the switch. I have no idea about the validity of that.
 

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I've had clinical depression all of my life, well controlled in general for quite a few years now. Nicotine is known to help with depression, and I've had major issues in the past when quitting smoking. With vaping the only issue I've had was when I cut back on the amount of nicotine. Since I increased it again I've been fine.

Though I have also read that some of the other chemicals in smoking also help with mental health issues, and have seen whole tobacco alkaloids recommended for people whose symptoms have gotten worse during the switch. I have no idea about the validity of that.

I too have suffered most of my life well since the age of 14 with severe clinical major depression and bipolar disorder, I noticed when I went down to 6mg of nicotine my depression, anxiety and bipolar got worse, once I increased it like amoret said they did, I have noticed that my depression, anxiety, and bipolar are much better, and my meds have been decreased! I have found that vaping helps out quite a bit in this area of my life I am not a doctor so I cannot say if these two things are related but I feel that they are!
 

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I have ADD, and in the past during my previously failed attempts to quit smoking, my ADD would reintroduce itself with such a ferocity that normal daily activities were nearly impossible to complete, I was a master of "un completion"... start this, side tracked ( tangented) on to something else that was slightly related, which then lead to another tangent....

When smoking, at least I was able to get things done "mentally" to keep on the subject so to say...
Since I started vaping, I was hit by the ADD again but not so harshly. At the present time Im doing 36 nic and seem to be able to "stay on track" if i drop down below 24nic, I start side stepping again.
 

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i'm clinically depressed, acute anxiety disorder, PTSD, and physical injuries thanx to 21 years as a 'Rambo' type in the Army. You have the exact symptoms i have when, wait for it......I'M BORED!!!
get off the chair and that computer and go do something! exercise is great, but just getting out and walking in the park or wherever or whatever you do for fun or used to do for fun.
i wood work. i found myself not even wanting to touch a lathe, much less use it, and i used to derive much pleasure and some spare cash turning art out for people.
explained this to my shrink, she upped my SSRI to the max dose and said i needed to force myself to get out there instead of staying in my recliner watching TV.
I'm on a computer all day so at home the only times i'm on are directly in the morning with my coffee and MVP and directly when i get home to re-check work emails, etc.

I hunt in the winter, but it has hit 100 here in AZ already so that is out, as well as the snakes. in the winter that is all i do so i have reverse seasonal depressions, since it is too dang hot to put your hands on your steering wheel, much less target practice or woodworking in an even hotter garage.

this is my second go around on vaping and i stick to 24mg 70/30 mix and have had no cheats since whenever i stopped, on the counter somewhere. good luck, but get off your .... and do something!
 
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