Vaping From Solar Power

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TomCatt

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Under "Tech Specs" it says
Maximum Solar Cell Wattage 18W

BUT:

Under "Why It's the Best" (Joos Orange):
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Highest efficiency commercially available, monocrystalline solar cell with silicon nitride, anti-reflective coating (125x125mm, 2.6W max)...

Not sure that it would actually output enough current to vape with. For the price, not sure I'd want to try it ;).

I like the way you're thinking though :D
 

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The Joos Orange is already set up with an internal liPO battery (5400mAh)

" Photovoltaics
Highest efficiency commercially available, monocrystalline solar cell with silicon nitride, anti-reflective coating (125x125mm, 2.6W max)
Solar cells connected in parallel – provides power when shaded.
Battery
Replaceable lithium-ion polymer battery, 20Wh/5400mAh
Charge Time: 12 hours Direct Sun/8 hours USB.
Encapsulation
Urethane encapsulation of solar cells for durability, long-life, high transmissivity (no yellowing), and waterproofing.

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"Just put the JOOS Orange in the sun and you are ready to go – it’s really that easy! Your JOOS Orange has multi- positional legs that pull out from the back of the unit. Adjust the legs into a position that angles the solar cell to best face the sun.
You can capture solar energy to charge your devices immediately, or store the energy in the on-board battery for later use. Because it captures power so efficiently, the JOOS Orange will charge your devices even if its internal battery is empty."
 

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I am pretty impressed with that little baby. Little expensive, but seems bullet proof(they shot it a couple of times to prove this). Getting ready for an 8 day hike in March/April and I am trying to work through vaping needs. Tried batteries on a 5 day and that did not work too well, so thinking to try one of these with a lipo charger to charge 3 batts in parallel. From reviews if you start with it full and hang off a pack, even in shade it will gradually charge internal batteries and external source effectively. The trick seems to be to start off with everything fully charge and to use it to trickle charge or top off the batts. It would be preferable to have variable voltage so if my atomizers start to degrade in resistance, I can just change the voltage plus I prefer 4.5-5 volt vaping. This would require charging in parallel and vaping in series. Most charging boards only will charge a 3.7 single cell battery. Putting the bats in parallel will trick it into thinking it is a single bat. The advantage of the charge board is that is has 4 stage charging and controls the output.

Just some thoughts.
 

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Sounds like it has charging circuits built in to it. Specs list charging from 3v to 4.2v.
It also specs only 1 amp for output. You could use it to charge but not for a PT
unless you use 3 in series, and then you'd have to crack it open to re-wire because
it looks pretty much dedicated to charging through a USB cable.

I agree with tomcatt, a booster mod with one in the PV while one charges would be best bet.
 

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Actually it sounds like it has boost circuits in it to give the appropriate power. The iphones and other devices are just getting the power and regulating the charge with their built in charging circuitry, at least on output. That was why I was figuring i would still need a charge board for LiIon and Lipo. Also, most charge boards will trickle and protect from overcharge. So if the device is charging in a backpack you don't have to check every so often to see if it is done. Maybe I am wrong on this, but this feels right.

Could still wire the batteries in series to output one way and parallel to input from USB (might be built onto the charging board) using a relay. Hmmm....
 

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Near as I can tell with a cursory look, it's pretty much just a 5V USB charging port limited to 1A ouptut, which is pretty weak considering it has a 5400mAh battery. Some devices like tablets actaully require a 2A source. That's some weak engineering on their part. In any case, you treat it like any other USB charger. It's like a USB wall wart without the wall.

I can definitely see the usefulness of this product. Though, they've done themselves a disservice by limiting output to 1A. On paper, you wouldn't be able to use it as a power supply for a direct 5V passthru, but who knows, it might handle it. You'd have to give it a try. Worst case, you'll have a portable power supply for your USB chargers.
 

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That seems awfully high dollar for what that is. Personally, I'd keep looking. I believe I have seen other portable device chargers with better throughput.

I'm guessing the small form factor is what is attractive to you. If I was doing this, I'd go with small 12v panels and a gel cell battery, then step the voltage down, like with a car charger. (Makes Tim The Tool Man grunts) They make 12v panels that fold up small-ish.
 

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Generally, solar power setups are used to charge battery banks. The battery banks are then used to power devices either directly (DC) or indirectly through an inverter (AC)

There are some chargers that have 12V ports (Trustfire) so you can use a DC source to charge on the go. You could possibly use a 12V solar panel plugged in to the charger to charge the batteries. This is purely speculation that a small panel would actually put out enough power to run the charger. I suppose I could try it with mine and see if it works... have to dig out my panel and see if I have a connector that will fit the trustfire charger.
 

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There are some chargers that have 12V ports (Trustfire) so you can use a DC source to charge on the go. You could possibly use a 12V solar panel plugged in to the charger to charge the batteries. This is purely speculation that a small panel would actually put out enough power to run the charger. I suppose I could try it with mine and see if it works... have to dig out my panel and see if I have a connector that will fit the trustfire charger.

Hey! Thanks for that heads up. :cool: I see my Trustfire has that.

I'm guessing it could, if the panel is big enough. A 30 watt panel would put out over 2 amps, right?
The cheapest solar charge controller you can buy? :D
 
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