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kinabaloo

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No sir, I have 4.

The seller is awesome might I add. I told her I accidently shorted this one out, and when I ordered another, she sent me an adidional one to replace the shorted at no charge.

What do you mean, connect across the capacitor?

The atty can be connected at the capacitor, where you measured 4.2v.

Wherever I check, it says the battery IS protected. Yours is removeable (normal), not solder tagged?

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'With PCB' can be clearly seen on these ones.

Tenergy - that's the brand used in the Prodigy I think.

Great service (maybe too good) :)
 
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There are no markings on it that state PCB, other than bar codes and a big stamped "A" that means nothing to me.

I scrapped at the rapping where there is a large groove...Most of my PCB spiderfire batteries have this...but then again, it says PCB on it, which is the only thing that lets me know that it is protected.

Would an unprotected battery be without this deep groove, as if it does house a circuit board?
 

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That store has this too:

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Apple style, higher capacity and 1A out of the usb.

But size/grip not ideal.

The black one is better for modding.
This is the one that I use when I refer to my 1amp battery. I have 4 of these as well and actually prefer this, although the battery life is less than the 2200mAh 18650 one. I modded the white one, and it isn't bad at all. The size is less than an ipod and as flat as one. It has a 3.7v cellphone type battery in it.

Cheaper here, Portable Power Supply for iPhone 3G/ iPhone/ Mobile Phone ( Black) $15.28 - Free Shipping

Here's a link where I modded it. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...thru-power-supply-device-charger-all-one.html

And yes, the 18650 has tabs and is soldered to the ciruit board.
 

kinabaloo

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Would an unprotected battery be without this deep groove, as if it does house a circuit board?

I can't be sure. The groove is just the indication of the positive end i think.

Connec the atty as you did the voltmeter. Positive to positive of capacitor. Negative to negative of capcitor or any other ground (0v) location.
 
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I can't be sure. The groove is just the indication of the positive end i think.

Connec the atty as you did the voltmeter. Positive to positive of capacitor. Negative to negative of capcitor or any other ground (0v) location.
I'm going to run a quick mod of it. I'll post up results shortly.
 

kinabaloo

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Okay, hooked up directly to the capacitor joints and I get great vape for 2 to 3 drags...then, it shorts to 0-0.2v....what's the problem. Continuity is good. I don't get it.

edit: nevermind, I think I accidently set off the safemode crossing something.

You can avoid that?

Hope we can work this out. This is good looking, small, has 2200mAh, usb recharging and can give emergency power to other devices :)
 
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kinabaloo

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This is the one that I use when I refer to my 1amp battery. I have 4 of these as well and actually prefer this, although the battery life is less than the 2200mAh 18650 one. I modded the white one, and it isn't bad at all. The size is less than an ipod and as flat as one. It has a 3.7v cellphone type battery in it.

Cheaper here, Portable Power Supply for iPhone 3G/ iPhone/ Mobile Phone ( Black) $15.28 - Free Shipping

Here's a link where I modded it. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...thru-power-supply-device-charger-all-one.html

And yes, the 18650 has tabs and is soldered to the ciruit board.

Ah, so it might well be unprotected then (still uncertain though).

The unit is smaller than the images make it appear then. But a bit too slim for the atty to look right ;)

Completely your earlier thread somehow; will look through it later.
 

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You can avoid that?

Hope we can work this out. This is good looking, small, has 2200mAh, usb recharging and can give emergency power to other devices :)
So far so good. I hooked up to the positive leg of the capacitor and directly to the negative end of the battery. I'm going to give it a good test before fully assembling a switch and led and so on. Nothing I hate more than to assemble everything, just to have to take it apart again. The vapor is far more intense than the my white 1000mAh 1A output pack....I really hope this is going to work.
 
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kinabaloo

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So far so good. I hooked up to the positive leg of the capacitor and directly to the negative end of the battery. I'm going to give it a good test before fully assembling a switch and led and so on. Nothing I hate more than to assemble everything, just to have to take it apart again. The vapor is far more intense than the my white 1000mAh 1A output pack....I really hope this is going to work.

Excellent! So glad I looked into the pcc link (I nearly didn't) and realised a way around the limitation.
Cause this is going to be a mighty mod :)

What a turn around - now better than the i-mod ;)

I'm off to sleep now. Will catch up with this tomorrow ...

ps: the bigger capacitor is probably for smoothing the 5v output.
 
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Excellent! So glad I looked into the pcc link (I nearly didn't) and realised a way around the limitation.
Cause this is going to be a mighty mod :)

What a turn around - now better than the i-mod ;)

I'm off to sleep now. Will catch up with this tomorrow ...

ps: the bigger capacitor is probably for smoothing the 5v output.
Okay, I'm done testing. If anything were to have gone wrong, it would have done it long ago.

I used the tact switch that is integrated into the board, which is used for the battery checker.

Plus side to this, is that there is no need for an on/off switch since the button is recessed in the case. No extra crap that makes it look home modded.

Down side, I am using the battery checker tact switch, when charging, the atty cannot be connected. When the battery pack is in charge mode, the battery status lights are on while charging, therefore, the switch has been bridged. Also, to get a fair reading of your battery status, the atty should be disconnected. While being used, there will always be minus one status light.

For instance, there are 4 lights that represent "I assume" increments of 25% battery life. All four lights, 100% charged, while being used, it shows 75%. Take off the atty, and it shows 100%.

Now for the good bit. There is no way on earth, this is at one amp or a "little" at one amp. Again, I need a new multimeter that reads higher than 1amp. My ipod battery pack puts out 1 amp, this I believe and shows a fluctuation of 9-1amp out of the e-cig connector. This pack reads 1amp always, my atty gets so hot after 2-3 drags, that I get a bit concerned. 18650 batteries, apparently are no light weights.

Throat hit, is gooooood.

It is a bit of a tight fit in there, but it can be done...hell, I did it.

But, before anyone decides to try this, let be run this for a few days. If you don't here from me again after a few days, either I'm trying to learn to type with my nose or I'm still in the intensive care ward.
 

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Okay, I'm done testing. If anything were to have gone wrong, it would have done it long ago.

I used the tact switch that is integrated into the board, which is used for the battery checker.

Plus side to this, is that there is no need for an on/off switch since the button is recessed in the case. No extra crap that makes it look home modded.

Down side, I am using the battery checker tact switch, when charging, the atty cannot be connected. When the battery pack is in charge mode, the battery status lights are on while charging, therefore, the switch has been bridged. Also, to get a fair reading of your battery status, the atty should be disconnected. While being used, there will always be minus one status light.

For instance, there are 4 lights that represent "I assume" increments of 25% battery life. All four lights, 100% charged, while being used, it shows 75%. Take off the atty, and it shows 100%.

Now for the good bit. There is no way on earth, this is at one amp or a "little" at one amp. Again, I need a new multimeter that reads higher than 1amp. My ipod battery pack puts out 1 amp, this I believe and shows a fluctuation of 9-1amp out of the e-cig connector. This pack reads 1amp always, my atty gets so hot after 2-3 drags, that I get a bit concerned. 18650 batteries, apparently are no light weights.

Throat hit, is gooooood.

It is a bit of a tight fit in there, but it can be done...hell, I did it.

But, before anyone decides to try this, let be run this for a few days. If you don't here from me again after a few days, either I'm trying to learn to type with my nose or I'm still in the intensive care ward.

Couldn't quite see why the downside re LEDs and buttons. If the atty button is not activated the atty is 'not connected'. Not sure why you bridged one switch (?) Perhaps you had no choice. It's hard to imagine these details when you don't have the unit in front of you ;)

You should be able to vape in passthrough mode (via battery) while usb charging; if can't do this, the advantage is not so great over a box where you take the battery out (except a bit easier, and no second charger unit). Even so will get good battery life with this, and good vaping :)

2200mAh means about 1 1/2 hours of atty on-time. If say one day is 200 puffs of 3 seconds each, this is 600 seconds of on-time - 10 minutes. So the battery would last about a week! But in practice the high current drain will shorten that, and one can't use up all the charge. However, 2 days might be achievable :)
 

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Couldn't quite see why the downside re LEDs and buttons. If the atty button is not activated the atty is 'not connected'. Not sure why you bridged one switch (?) Perhaps you had no choice. It's hard to imagine these details when you don't have the unit in front of you ;)


You should be able to vape in passthrough mode (via battery) while usb charging; if can't do this, the advantage is not so great over a box where you take the battery out (except a bit easier, and no second charger unit). Even so will get good battery life with this, and good vaping :)

2200mAh means about 1 1/2 hours of atty on-time. If say one day is 200 puffs of 3 seconds each, this is 600 seconds of on-time - 10 minutes. So the battery would last about a week! But in practice the high current drain will shorten that, and one can't use up all the charge. However, 2 days might be achievable :)

What I'm stating is that I am sharing the existing battery status button rather than having installed a dedicated button that contolls the atomizer only.

Having done this, it has eliminated the ability to use it while charging and the atomizer must be disconnected in charge mode.

If I had installed a dedicated button, and on/off switch, it would be useable during charge time.


I'll try to make a quick video shortly.
 
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