does vaping on say, 60 watts do more damage to your heart than 40 wats? I am on 2 mg of nic. And vape about 2-3 tanks a day . That's about 22 mg of nic a day . Bout a pack of smokes, but you don't absorb all of that so less than that. My grandma has congestive heart failure and I was just wondering what vaping does to the heart and lungs. If it can cause life threatening issues
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No one really has the answers to those questions John , I was a smoker for many years and started vaping after a heart attack in 2009 at 48 years old.....I fully believe vaping has saved my life.
Nicotine is not the real bad stuff in smoking. It is the rest of the stuff in the smoke.
As to how bad vaping is? Initial reports show it to be around 95% safer than smoking.
Long term effects on health? As BacDoc said no one really knows yet.
Most have reported higher blood oxygen levels when vaping vs smoking.
I completely got off of blood pressure meds.
As to how bad vaping is? Initial reports show it to be around 95% safer than smoking.
Long term effects on health? As BacDoc said no one really knows yet.
Most have reported higher blood oxygen levels when vaping vs smoking.
I completely got off of blood pressure meds.
So sorry to hear about your Grandma John. But is it you you're asking the question for or is it for your grandma who has the heart condition that you are currently vaping around?
Please excuse my confusion here.
Cheers.
Please excuse my confusion here.
Cheers.
Recent studies have shown some slight damage to surface lung tissue from vaping.. the type of damage that your body will easily heal by itself.
So it's not entirely harmless, but very few things in this world are.
I highly doubt that vaping will do any damage to your heart, but I'm no cardiologist, (and even they don't have the necessary data at this point to tell you for sure).
If you're worried about it; the safest thing would be to stop vaping. However, if it's keeping you from smoking, vape on! At this point, we certainly know that it's far, FAR less harmful than smoking.
This would imply Vaping does some damage to your heart at 40w.
Unless you have HUGH tanks
3 tanks x avg. - 4.5ml = 13.5mm @2mg/ml = 27mg nic total/day
Watts are not the concern. a 60w build can run Cooler than a 40w build, depending on many variables.
A smok TFV4 with Quad coil seriously under performs at 60w.
......anyway, to your original question - if you are vaping withing good practice perimeters, no you are not going to hurt your heart. You may elevate your heart rate some while Vaping. There are NO Combustible particles in Vapor.
I don't even remember the last time I had a cold since I started vaping three years.
My mil like Mr. Cromwell was able to stop taking blood pressure medication. She is also a diabetic who doesn't have to take her diabetic medication anymore. I think it it is because she gets her sweets craving from her vaping then actually eating them.
My mil like Mr. Cromwell was able to stop taking blood pressure medication. She is also a diabetic who doesn't have to take her diabetic medication anymore. I think it it is because she gets her sweets craving from her vaping then actually eating them.
I'm actually a little confused here. You said you vape, and your grandma is the one with the heart condition. I'm understanding 3 separate scenarios here, and I'm wondering which one you're asking. 1, You vape, and your grandma wants to try vaping too. 2, you're worried about your second hand vape hurting your grandma. 3, You're worried that vaping might somehow cause you to develop congestive heart failure in the future. So here are my answers by scenario:
1. If your grandmother wants to try vaping with congestive heart failure, she needs to talk to her doctor first. But it's probably not a good idea. Stimulates don't generally bode well with serious heart conditions. Is she advised to avoid caffeine? If not nicotine is probably out too. That said, if she's currently a smoker who can't quit, vaping is probably the better choice.
2. Unlike smoke, vapor settles withing minutes of being expelled from your lungs. Coupled with the very low dose you're vaping, I wouldn't think it would be much of a concern. But if you're worried, just don't vape around her.
3. No one can say whether or not you'll have heart problems in the future. But it's generally accepted in the vaping community that nicotine affects the body much like caffeine. If you end up with a heart condition in the future, it is likely that such a thing was already in the works for you, genetically.
All that said, no one knows for sure the long term effects of vaping. It could turn out that vaping plays a role in cardiovascular disease. There don't seem to have been any serious complications in the short term. Same goes with lung disease. We just don't know at this point. However, if I were you I'd absolutely hedge my bets that cigarettes are far worse.
1. If your grandmother wants to try vaping with congestive heart failure, she needs to talk to her doctor first. But it's probably not a good idea. Stimulates don't generally bode well with serious heart conditions. Is she advised to avoid caffeine? If not nicotine is probably out too. That said, if she's currently a smoker who can't quit, vaping is probably the better choice.
2. Unlike smoke, vapor settles withing minutes of being expelled from your lungs. Coupled with the very low dose you're vaping, I wouldn't think it would be much of a concern. But if you're worried, just don't vape around her.
3. No one can say whether or not you'll have heart problems in the future. But it's generally accepted in the vaping community that nicotine affects the body much like caffeine. If you end up with a heart condition in the future, it is likely that such a thing was already in the works for you, genetically.
All that said, no one knows for sure the long term effects of vaping. It could turn out that vaping plays a role in cardiovascular disease. There don't seem to have been any serious complications in the short term. Same goes with lung disease. We just don't know at this point. However, if I were you I'd absolutely hedge my bets that cigarettes are far worse.
been vaping for 3 yrs... and havent had a cold since... I used to get 2 colds per year when I was smoking
Looking at your previous posts, here's my two cents: If you need or like to vape, better learn to vape stress free. The stress will kill you sooner than vaping ever could.
Vaping has been no colds for me. I noticed my spring allergies were much less, too. My lab tests have all been better for each 6 month test. My doctor said it was good to get rid of all the cig chemicals. He has seen my test results and I am down to 1.5%.
I breath better, smell, taste, less snoring, not sick, just a plethora of events that I have encountered in my life that tell me it is much better than smoking.
My vaping, has given me a reason to sit and relax with my PV. I am focused on the flavors, so lung hitting doesn't really get involved.
Vaping, as said, gives me a reason to sit and lower my stress. Watching TV in the evening with my flavorful PV is good. The porch with Dog is also good. In the morning, we sit on the front porch and vape with coffee, the sunrise is beautiful. On the back patio at night, the sunset is beautiful. Arizona has few clouds. I can usually see the Milky Way.
Vaping is good for me, it is good for the public to switch, and healthcare costs are lower.
I breath better, smell, taste, less snoring, not sick, just a plethora of events that I have encountered in my life that tell me it is much better than smoking.
My vaping, has given me a reason to sit and relax with my PV. I am focused on the flavors, so lung hitting doesn't really get involved.
Vaping, as said, gives me a reason to sit and lower my stress. Watching TV in the evening with my flavorful PV is good. The porch with Dog is also good. In the morning, we sit on the front porch and vape with coffee, the sunrise is beautiful. On the back patio at night, the sunset is beautiful. Arizona has few clouds. I can usually see the Milky Way.
Vaping is good for me, it is good for the public to switch, and healthcare costs are lower.
pg acts as an antimicrobial so that could be why a lot of us get less colds. Most major hospitals vaporize pg and push it through the ventilation systems to help keep germs down.
I think it's safe to say while vaping is unproven to be safe for the heart in a long term situation. Most logical people should be able to agree on the fact that it is safer on your heart then smoking. For all the smart people on here, is nicotine considered a stimulant? Does t increase blood pressure?
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Yes, @vlodato nicotine is a stimulant. It can increase blood pressure. But it usually doesn't increase it a ton. I've even tested this because my doctor told me I needed to quit vaping because my blood pressure was a tad high. So I ran some tests, checking my blood pressure before, during, and after vaping at various times throughout the day and the most it ever raised my BP compared to my baseline BP was only 10 points (I'm talking about my systolic number- the top number. because my diastolic never changed more than a point or 2.)
I have never seen a cardiologist in my life, but was seriously considering doing so for the last few years that I smoked. Was getting increasingly frequent and severe bouts of angina that were becoming alarming and noticeable to others ...
Since I quit smoking and started vaping exclusively three years ago, not a single incident of angina, even after heavy exertion ...
My heart likes vaping ...
Regarding blood pressure readings, here's something interesting that I noticed. When I had Kaiser medical insurance in the US, a nurse would take my weight and blood pressure reading immediately when I arrived for my appointment, after climbing two flights of stairs and entering a facility that honestly caused me a mild anxiety attack. Of course the readings were always high ...
When I switched to medical care in Mexico, I visit with my neurologist (for Parkinson's Disease treatment), we chat for a few minutes until I am relaxed, then the doctor himself measures my blood pressure as we discuss my symptoms and medication ...
I'm pretty sure he gets a more accurate reading, it is always within normal range for my age and weight ...
Since I quit smoking and started vaping exclusively three years ago, not a single incident of angina, even after heavy exertion ...
My heart likes vaping ...
Regarding blood pressure readings, here's something interesting that I noticed. When I had Kaiser medical insurance in the US, a nurse would take my weight and blood pressure reading immediately when I arrived for my appointment, after climbing two flights of stairs and entering a facility that honestly caused me a mild anxiety attack. Of course the readings were always high ...
When I switched to medical care in Mexico, I visit with my neurologist (for Parkinson's Disease treatment), we chat for a few minutes until I am relaxed, then the doctor himself measures my blood pressure as we discuss my symptoms and medication ...
I'm pretty sure he gets a more accurate reading, it is always within normal range for my age and weight ...
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Huh ... research I found online (British Doctors and research center, I forget which specific one) found vaping did as much damage to the lungs as breathing "clean" or "fresh" air, and lowered the blood pressure.
As for the "clean"/"fresh" air, I am presuming they are not talking Los Angeles, New York City Metro Area, Chicago, or other major polluted metro area.
As for the "clean"/"fresh" air, I am presuming they are not talking Los Angeles, New York City Metro Area, Chicago, or other major polluted metro area.
This is not a health forum, you're asking the common man on the street what they THINK. I have a heart condition but I don't think you should rely on what any one of us says for healthcare.
Nonetheless, I have a bicuspid aortic valve with aortic stenosis and I undergo echo dopplers every couple of years to see if I am to have my valve replaced. I'm on carvedilol/coreg for heart failure...not b/c I have heart failure but they have modified my heartbeat with beta blockers so as to stave off any heart failure due to an enlarged heart, should I not catch the expansion of the aorta. Aortic stenosis is a closing on the valve due to a buildup of calcium on the now stiff valve. It causes the valve to create back pressure which enlarges the heart.
I use to smoke. I could not easily walk up and down stairs to the 2nd floor more than once with bags of food from the store in my hands. Today, I'm working as a system administrator. I've been vaping since Sept 2015. I feel great. Today, I was going about my regular business carrying PCs to the second floor for a business and stacking them up to 6 ft high. I made more than 5 trips, with one PC tucked under each arm. Over two days a team of us replaced 500+ desktop PCs with 500+ ThinkCenter small form factor PCs. This requires standing for 8+ hr shifts, crawling under desks, getting on your back, standing back up, tidying the desk up... I can do it with no problem.
Fingers crossed. I'm due to make an appointment for a new echo doppler soon. They gave me the paperwork, and I need to call to make the appointment. I was an athlete earlier on life. I'm not worried. I think I'm fine, and there is nothing to worry about.
What do my DRs think about vaping? At the one facility that I use the most I have nurse practitioners. They are very well educated. In three cases they asked me if I had my gear on me and I said yes and demonstrated it in their offices. I showed them everything. They were very impressed. I vape a Sigelei 213 at 150W with dual claptons in a Twisted Messes Squared RDA. YES, I was blowing hard core clouds in my DRs offices!!!
Vape on!
I just wanted to add a couple comments based on my personal experiences after surviving going into cardiac arrest over 20 years ago:
After a year of very regular visits with my cardiologist and having to tell him of my failures in trying to quit smoking, I asked him point blank which was going to kill me first, smoking or a very high stress job. His response? Something like "you're asking me to condone smoking and I can't do that." Take it as you like, but I know how I took it.
After many failures at quitting smoking, I gave up (as well as my family and doctors) and continued smoking for the next 15 or so years, until I stopped with vaping. My GP said great for my lungs, but not so great for my heart....something about nicotine constricting your veins or capillaries or whatever. He advised getting off the cigs, but work on getting off the vape as well. My cardiologist was happy I quit cigs and not much else. When I had my heart attack, he said "we're trying to buy you another 15 years." On my 18th year checkup, he just said "we must be doing something right, so just keep it up." And that was before quitting cigs with vaping. I just had my annual visit with both, and both are pleased I am off the cigs and changed my medical records to "former smoker."
Please keep in mind that this is just the opinions of two doctors, both dealing with a stubborn
who didn't have the ability to take the bull by the horns without the right help. Whatever works best for you while avoiding stress.
After a year of very regular visits with my cardiologist and having to tell him of my failures in trying to quit smoking, I asked him point blank which was going to kill me first, smoking or a very high stress job. His response? Something like "you're asking me to condone smoking and I can't do that." Take it as you like, but I know how I took it.
After many failures at quitting smoking, I gave up (as well as my family and doctors) and continued smoking for the next 15 or so years, until I stopped with vaping. My GP said great for my lungs, but not so great for my heart....something about nicotine constricting your veins or capillaries or whatever. He advised getting off the cigs, but work on getting off the vape as well. My cardiologist was happy I quit cigs and not much else. When I had my heart attack, he said "we're trying to buy you another 15 years." On my 18th year checkup, he just said "we must be doing something right, so just keep it up." And that was before quitting cigs with vaping. I just had my annual visit with both, and both are pleased I am off the cigs and changed my medical records to "former smoker."
Please keep in mind that this is just the opinions of two doctors, both dealing with a stubborn
who didn't have the ability to take the bull by the horns without the right help. Whatever works best for you while avoiding stress.- Status
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