I just tried I can....
I started vaping December 2, 2017 only 5 days before my 60 th birthday. Most people I see vaping appear to be somewhere in age between 25 and 40. I'm about the oldest person I see vaping out on the street. I see older people sucking on ecigs like one purchases at convenience stores. But I actually vape. I own several smok v8 sticks and and Innokin MVP4 box mod. I have totally embraced the hobby. I have 20+ flavors of juice, nic levels 0 and 3. I'm saving money so I can get a more sofisticated mod with replaceable batteries. woo hoo This is my question--tell us about your self or your "old" friends who are vapers. BTW please tell the FDA and all those European agencies that I love sweet, candy and dessert flavors. Thank you.
PS my last cigarette was December 12. I had to use up my last pack.
Remember, the 50+ year olds generally didn't grow up with computers, so surfing the web doesn't come as easy to them.
The last thing I wanted was tobacco flavors, I wanted to get as far from cigs as I could once I realized quitting might be possible with vaping. Any flavor that reminded me of smoking was thrown out or pif'd the first year. Now I very occasionally mix a dessert tobacco.Yes, some of us really do like tobacco (we just don't want to smoke it anymore). Only tobacco works for me. Actually, I am surprised at how few vapers vape real tobacco flavors - there aren't many available out there. It is true that real tobacco flavors cost more than most but they are not just synthetic flavorings from some food corp which are very cheap to buy. They are made by hand requiring much more of somebody's labor. And yes, itis still less costly compared to a pack a day here.
...Remember, the 50+ year olds generally didn't grow up with computers, so surfing the web doesn't come as easy to them...
Honestly I believe its more common for people 40+ to be vaping. I believe that's because more and more people are trying to find new ways to quit smoking and vaping has been the best way to do it.
However, in my experience anyone under that age is usually ridiculed by either other young people for being an "obnoxious vaper" or by other older people who don't like that vaping is also becoming a hobby.
If you want me to be honest with you I'm a little respectfully annoyed that you would feel this way about vaping 55+. I've always been really self conscious and secretive about vaping as a younger 23 year old woman because I know it's criticized a lot at my age.. but not much for you.
You're probably correct, @NealBJr, when you say "generally." However, this 65-yr old bought his 1st computer in Jan.'83 (yes, EIGHTY-THREE) and, with the help of a few books, I learned how to program it in both BASIC and Assembler (it had a Zilog Z-80 cpu that was code-compatible with Intel's 8080 processor). I then "returned" to college in Jan.'85, "majored" in Math & Physics, and worked one academic year in the computer labs with IBM PC-XTs and PC-ATs, the latter being the first generation of 16-bit cpus. I was "on" the internet beginning in '87 from the campus PCs, long before there was any advertising or merchants or all the BS it's impossible to avoid today. It was "pristine," mostly just UseNET, "Bulletin Boards," some colleges and research facilities like LexisNexis (look it up). Of course, there was also NO GUI (graphical user interface) and to get anything accomplished required KNOWING a WHOLE BUNCH of commands. Damn, I "miss" those halcyon days.Of course(?), since then, I "evolved" with Microsquish, from MS-DOS to Windows 3.0 through all iterations to Win10 as well as several flavors of Unix and Linux both with and without X (the "original" GUI developed at Xerox-PARC labs (Palo Alto Research Center) in the EARLY '70s). Throw in about a dozen more programming languages and nearly 20 yrs being SysAdmin and NetAdmin and now I say, "Computers!! Bah, humbug!! Who need's 'em!!" Of course, if I didn't have mine I'd probably go COMPLETELY insane. Hell, I "panic" when my ISP has problems and I can't connect!!!
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Yes, some of us really do like tobacco (we just don't want to smoke it anymore). Only tobacco works for me. Actually, I am surprised at how few vapers vape real tobacco flavors - there aren't many available out there. It is true that real tobacco flavors cost more than most but they are not just synthetic flavorings from some food corp which are very cheap to buy. They are made by hand requiring much more of somebody's labor. And yes, itis still less costly compared to a pack a day here.
I don't get that. I'm not disagreeing. Very few of my college friends are on FB, when they get around to getting on it they're very computer illiterate.
I refused computers for what seemed to be a long time (I was young with my dad using things like 286s and my brother was early into W95) but it seems like the internet as we know it must've been new when I did get into computers.
I see millenials acting like they created the internet. No, my grandfather and I were doing social media of the day when you were on an etch-a-sketch. But then I see my college friends acting like old people about computers. How have they done business for the last 20 years?
Of course, if I didn't have mine I'd probably go COMPLETELY insane. Hell, I "panic" when my ISP has problems and I can't connect!!!![]()
Yes, that's exactly my point... I don't think that you're computer illiterate, and my step mother isn't as well. She's done research on Ecigs as I bet you did as well. For those that are older and have NOT learned how to surf, and do research, they rely on the news... and the news is highly skewed nowadays.
I am on the older side.. I don't snapchat, Don't twitter, rarely update my FB page, never posted a vine (when it was up)... but.. I'm savvy enough to know google-fu. I'll have to say my son is more advanced when it comes to smartphones. He just bought a car, got insurance and financing all while sitting at the car dealer's desk, then registered the tag. It was a "sign of the times" for me, since both the dealer and my son were just on their phones doing all the paperwork. Computers are on the down.. it'll all be smartphones.
I don't get that. I'm not disagreeing. Very few of my college friends are on FB, when they get around to getting on it they're very computer illiterate.
I refused computers for what seemed to be a long time (I was young with my dad using things like 286s and my brother was early into W95) but it seems like the internet as we know it must've been new when I did get into computers.
I see millenials acting like they created the internet. No, my grandfather and I were doing social media of the day when you were on an etch-a-sketch. But then I see my college friends acting like old people about computers. How have they done business for the last 20 years?
I love the internet! No longer having to spend hours in the library TRYING to find the information I want! Being able to learn about anything I want, anytime I want! Being able to find a video reviewing before I buy or even showing me how to use something! No more expensive long distance! Google maps to keep me from getting lost! It goes on and on.How the hell did we "cope/manage" when we had to read one or more books to find a fact and communicating with someone required looking them up in another book and using a finger to rotate a "numbered" ring on a device that had to be attached to a wire, or meeting them literally face-to-face? Is where "we" are at really "progress?" I don't do (and HATE) FB, and every other "social" media (unless you count this forum), I do have a cell-phone that will send/receive text-messages and does have a [crappy] "camera" (that I've used maybe once or twice in 10 yrs) and my "non-plan" costs me $15/mo and my "roll-over minutes" now amount to about 5 hours! What does the term "smart-phone" mean when it has a screen too small to be of any real use, is too difficult to "type" on, costs $600 or more for it plus another $600/yr for "service" and can be tracked and hacked, not to mention eavesdropped, by almost anyone with a $1000 (or less) of equipment and a modicum knowledge?![]()
I love the internet! No longer having to spend hours in the library TRYING to find the information I want! Being able to learn about anything I want, anytime I want! Being able to find a video reviewing before I buy or even showing me how to use something! No more expensive long distance! Google maps to keep me from getting lost! It goes on and on.
Yes, I love, love, love REAL books. But, now books can be left to be for pleasure while I get the job done faster on the internet. And, I can talk to my daughter in Scotland (and even see her when I talk to her). I could never afford that before.
True, I don't do FB or any other social networking (except for ECF). But, I still use them to snatch family pictures from my children as they post them.
Yes, we did manage before. And, true, some of our old skills may be getting a little rusty. But, the world has opened up to us!