Vaping using Stainless Steel Wire

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Just alcohol and paper towels. Just to remove any machine oil, graphite, or other gunk that comes from manufacturing.

Also, ignore the other guy. SS is fine for vaping, but it's probably more suited for TC devices.
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Ignore the other guy,,,, really!!!!
Do you know for a fact that SS wire can be used.
Heck,,, you can use jumper cables,, of course you'll want to strip the plastic insulation off it first, maybe not!!!!!!
If coils use resistance wires, I would suggest you should use resistance wire.
I believe SS wire is not recognized as a resistant wire.
What's the big problem to get some kanthal or nichrom.
 

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Bigego posted 1 note to this thread and has not responded,,, not expecting him to reply here
Ignore the other guy,,,, really!!!!
Do you know for a fact that SS wire can be used.
Heck,,, you can use jumper cables,, of course you'll want to strip the plastic insulation off it first, maybe not!!!!!!
If coils use resistance wires, I would suggest you should use resistance wire.
I believe SS wire is not recognized as a resistant wire.
What's the big problem to get some kanthal or nichrom.
Not a problem..im seeking for opinions..maybe some of us had the experience using SS..just want to clarify either its safe or not..will advice my friends if the SS harmful
 

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Bigego posted 1 note to this thread and has not responded,,, not expecting him to reply here
Ignore the other guy,,,, really!!!!
Do you know for a fact that SS wire can be used.
Heck,,, you can use jumper cables,, of course you'll want to strip the plastic insulation off it first, maybe not!!!!!!
If coils use resistance wires, I would suggest you should use resistance wire.
I believe SS wire is not recognized as a resistant wire.
What's the big problem to get some kanthal or nichrom.
lol - yeah - was a little surprised at the 'ignore the other guy' bit... especially given that edyle usually knows what he is talking about and gives pretty solid advice/ insight... but, given the poster's name...
 
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Just curious. Why would anybody use ss wire? It's not resistance wire.

Nickel is not a resistance wire either -- in fact, it is often labeled "non-resistance wire" -- yet we still use it in vaping. Why? Because of its high temperature coefficient of resistance (TCR). This means slight resistance changes correlate to temperature fluctuations which are highly predictable and well known. That's how the TC mods limit the temperature: they take the starting resistance of the cold atomizer and monitor its resistance change as it's fired. If you know the starting resistance and temperature, and if you know how much that resistance has changed, then you can easily calculate the temperature of the wire. This is why Evolv always warned to place an atomizer at room temperature on the mod. They did this to get that baseline temp and resistance.

All metals (and alloys) have a TCR, including Kanthal. The problem with Kanthal is that the TCR is so small that it would take a super accurate and sensitive ohm meter to detect -- something we probably can't do affordably in consumer grade electronics.

Stainless Steel's TCR isn't as high as nickel or titanium, but it's still higher than Kanthal (FeAlCr) and thus its possible to use current tech to use it rather accurately. You can use SS as a TC wire already on the Dicodes and DNA-200 mods (those mods let you adjust the TCR manually). Indeed, with mods like the DNA-200 you can use a bunch of wire (if you can afford it) like Gold, Silver, Platinum, Nickel, Titanium, Tungsten. Or you can use alloys like SS or the various NiFe alloys (NiFe70, etc).

For regular unregulated vaping, I don't see the benefits of SS. As long as you can build it at a safe resistance, I don't think it would do any harm, but I see no advantages of it over Kanthal.
 

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How is TC going to work with SS, when it's calculating based on the known resistance of particular metals (nickel) to estimate the temperature? I'd expect SS would totally fail a TC controller.

I honestly don't know how SS heats under voltage. Might work. Might short. Not gonna try it, lol.

The new Smok Cube II has an option to read SS wire in it's temp control.
 
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Nickel is not a resistance wire either -- in fact, it is often labeled "non-resistance wire" -- yet we still use it in vaping. Why? Because of its high temperature coefficient of resistance (TCR). This means slight resistance changes correlate to temperature fluctuations which are highly predictable and well known. That's how the TC mods limit the temperature: they take the starting resistance of the cold atomizer and monitor its resistance change as it's fired. If you know the starting resistance and temperature, and if you know how much that resistance has changed, then you can easily calculate the temperature of the wire. This is why Evolv always warned to place an atomizer at room temperature on the mod. They did this to get that baseline temp and resistance.

All metals (and alloys) have a TCR, including Kanthal. The problem with Kanthal is that the TCR is so small that it would take a super accurate and sensitive ohm meter to detect -- something we probably can't do affordably in consumer grade electronics.

Stainless Steel's TCR isn't as high as nickel or titanium, but it's still higher than Kanthal (FeAlCr) and thus its possible to use current tech to use it rather accurately. You can use SS as a TC wire already on the Dicodes and DNA-200 mods (those mods let you adjust the TCR manually). Indeed, with mods like the DNA-200 you can use a bunch of wire (if you can afford it) like Gold, Silver, Platinum, Nickel, Titanium, Tungsten. Or you can use alloys like SS or the various NiFe alloys (NiFe70, etc).

For regular unregulated vaping, I don't see the benefits of SS. As long as you can build it at a safe resistance, I don't think it would do any harm, but I see no advantages of it over Kanthal.
The benefit is that it has a much lower resistance per length vs kanthal. So you can build a much larger coil while maintaining a lower resistance.
 

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Nickel is not a resistance wire either -- in fact, it is often labeled "non-resistance wire" -- yet we still use it in vaping. Why? Because of its high temperature coefficient of resistance (TCR). This means slight resistance changes correlate to temperature fluctuations which are highly predictable and well known. That's how the TC mods limit the temperature: they take the starting resistance of the cold atomizer and monitor its resistance change as it's fired. If you know the starting resistance and temperature, and if you know how much that resistance has changed, then you can easily calculate the temperature of the wire. This is why Evolv always warned to place an atomizer at room temperature on the mod. They did this to get that baseline temp and resistance.

All metals (and alloys) have a TCR, including Kanthal. The problem with Kanthal is that the TCR is so small that it would take a super accurate and sensitive ohm meter to detect -- something we probably can't do affordably in consumer grade electronics.

Stainless Steel's TCR isn't as high as nickel or titanium, but it's still higher than Kanthal (FeAlCr) and thus its possible to use current tech to use it rather accurately. You can use SS as a TC wire already on the Dicodes and DNA-200 mods (those mods let you adjust the TCR manually). Indeed, with mods like the DNA-200 you can use a bunch of wire (if you can afford it) like Gold, Silver, Platinum, Nickel, Titanium, Tungsten. Or you can use alloys like SS or the various NiFe alloys (NiFe70, etc).

For regular unregulated vaping, I don't see the benefits of SS. As long as you can build it at a safe resistance, I don't think it would do any harm, but I see no advantages of it over Kanthal.


...as if spoken from my mouth. :) THe only other thing I'd note, is Kanthal, although at one time propriatary, has become Synonymous with any FeCrAl wire (Iron, Chromium, Aluminum). The percentages may be off from one manufacturer to another. The other worry about Stainless in a Temperature control mod, is that Stainless is also an alloy, and the resistance can vary as well from one manufacturer to the next as well.
 

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How is TC going to work with SS, when it's calculating based on the known resistance of particular metals (nickel) to estimate the temperature? I'd expect SS would totally fail a TC controller.

I honestly don't know how SS heats under voltage. Might work. Might short. Not gonna try it, lol.

Smok X cube
SX mini ML
DNA 200

A few mods supporting SS wire:D
 
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