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hey you(r) the one that insisted he was part of it
as for me .. meh what the hey .. i can put up with one .. for the good of the study
as for me .. meh what the hey .. i can put up with one .. for the good of the study
No, I merely pointed out the facts of the case. They are not something I have any control over. As of course for @Vaperer his body, his choice. I suggest you take it up with him.
That would be an impossibility. They don't make Pontiacs no more but they did come with a cool V6 rear engine. Maybe she was driving an old Pontiac LOL
Oooh I can be all high and might about this one since I simply quit--everything-- while pregnant and nursing. I am still not sure how I managed THAT one, but it did have several benefits, including the fact that I was gonna have a healthy kid. It also gave me some sobriety lens to view the train wreck my life had become.
I will admit I drank non-alcoholic beer at parties sometimes. I just couldn't handle being there without SOMETHING to hold onto. I always hoped someone would come up and ACCUSE me of being an alcoholic pregnant person, but frankly it just wasn't "that kind" of a party frankly,
Nicotine is not recommended in pregnancy period. If the alternative is well, vaping-- it is what it is. We have not (yet) become a society where nicotine in your system is considered a crime.
As to other things, the medical community claims methadone is safer than opiates for pregnancy, and it probably IS-- IF you are shooting up with a dirty needle, having overdoses etc. You usually won't get a CPS case for being a methadone user, even though I personally think the withdrawals suck harder than a good clean stream of steady opiate, but what do I know. We don't have that option (in the US).
I am not about to condemn someone for not being able to end an addiction during pregnancy, or for wanting to be pregnant on maintenance meds and etc.
However your best bet for a healthy baby is to put down all meds and stimulants. If you cannot, find a high risk OB and work with them. Etc. It's pretty much the best you can do, if that is what you can do.
I wouldn't approach a pregnant vaper personally. I get enough of that type of stuff at work, frankly . I don't really enjoy making CPS referrals on my own time by engaging a pregnant vaper in friendly conversation only to find out she is speed balling or whatever. A CPS report is a lot of work, and I have to do one TO EVERY CITIZEN I come across that deserves it. You can see why I am a bit of a hermit at times..
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I will admit I drank non-alcoholic beer at parties sometimes. I just couldn't handle being there without SOMETHING to hold onto. I always hoped someone would come up and ACCUSE me of being an alcoholic pregnant person, but frankly it just wasn't "that kind" of a party frankly,
Nicotine is not recommended in pregnancy period. If the alternative is well, vaping-- it is what it is. We have not (yet) become a society where nicotine in your system is considered a crime.
As to other things, the medical community claims methadone is safer than opiates for pregnancy, and it probably IS-- IF you are shooting up with a dirty needle, having overdoses etc. You usually won't get a CPS case for being a methadone user, even though I personally think the withdrawals suck harder than a good clean stream of steady opiate, but what do I know. We don't have that option (in the US).
I am not about to condemn someone for not being able to end an addiction during pregnancy, or for wanting to be pregnant on maintenance meds and etc.
However your best bet for a healthy baby is to put down all meds and stimulants. If you cannot, find a high risk OB and work with them. Etc. It's pretty much the best you can do, if that is what you can do.
I wouldn't approach a pregnant vaper personally. I get enough of that type of stuff at work, frankly . I don't really enjoy making CPS referrals on my own time by engaging a pregnant vaper in friendly conversation only to find out she is speed balling or whatever. A CPS report is a lot of work, and I have to do one TO EVERY CITIZEN I come across that deserves it. You can see why I am a bit of a hermit at times..
Anna
How can you do a cps report for vaping/smoking? Women can still drink alcohol while pregnant. Now if the woman is a alcoholic, that’s a different story, cps for vaping hell no.
He's got to be worrying already about what nursing is going to do to his elderly breasts. Getting a headstart on the damage may not be appealing.
I was raised on nicotine from conception through to nursing and onward through childhood inhaling second hand smoke.
Thats just how we rolled back then.
Mightve been the nicotine that gave us kids the ability to be able to not wear shoes even on frosty mornings on our 4 mile walk to school and the strength to do adult type chores before we went to school.
Probably the nicotine that kept all the adhd affected kids under control as well.
For you literal types, its a tongue in cheek post btw.
for you literal types, tongue in cheek isnt literally posting with a tongue in cheek, tongue-in-cheek figure of speech is used to imply that a statement or other production is not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value
Thats just how we rolled back then.
Mightve been the nicotine that gave us kids the ability to be able to not wear shoes even on frosty mornings on our 4 mile walk to school and the strength to do adult type chores before we went to school.
Probably the nicotine that kept all the adhd affected kids under control as well.
For you literal types, its a tongue in cheek post btw.
for you literal types, tongue in cheek isnt literally posting with a tongue in cheek, tongue-in-cheek figure of speech is used to imply that a statement or other production is not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value
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NOTE I am NOT a medical type person thingy, just going by what others told me from their doctors.
If you are a heavy smoker, and get pregnant, and want to quit... you should gradually step down the nicotine. Doctors have told some of my friends and internet buddies that going cold turkey can be harmful to a fetus, potentially deadly. So I'd say jump over to vaping and gradually cut down on the nicotine. Just my two cents.
If you are a heavy smoker, and get pregnant, and want to quit... you should gradually step down the nicotine. Doctors have told some of my friends and internet buddies that going cold turkey can be harmful to a fetus, potentially deadly. So I'd say jump over to vaping and gradually cut down on the nicotine. Just my two cents.
I have 4 children 3 of whom were born before the vape Era. With my first child I was a very light smoker and it was pretty easy to quit. My second and third child not so easy. My obgyn told me that the placenta can and will filter up to 7 cigarettes a day before it would affect my baby. I wasn't some ratchet, ignorant mother in there wreaking of cigarettes. I was a concerned mother who could not go cold turkey and was terrified. My dr reminded me of the time that I was born and all those chain smoking 50,60s and 70s babies who are my parents lol. I actually consulted my drs on it though.
Before getting pregnant this last time, I cut down by vaping. When I actually got pregnant I quit vaping. I'd had three babies where I smoked and they were fine, but knowing that slight dehydration could cause preterm labor for myself vaping was not an option. I had 2 cigs a day until I was 4 months. My obgyn a different office was fine with this. Apparently they see alot of people who are pregnant and have to worry about fetal alcohol syndrome and .... while pregnant. So they laughed at my 2 cigs a day questions.
So, I'm that woman who gave birth to healthy children, and refuses to pass judgment on another mother. If i see a pregnant woman smoking i know she might be going thru something. I knew a young girl that smoked and was pregnant but it helped her stay off ...... while pregnant. Sometimes it's not about what's healthy is about harm. Reduction.
Her Dr might have said vape away, while mine said i rather you have 2 cigs or 7 cigs a day.
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Before getting pregnant this last time, I cut down by vaping. When I actually got pregnant I quit vaping. I'd had three babies where I smoked and they were fine, but knowing that slight dehydration could cause preterm labor for myself vaping was not an option. I had 2 cigs a day until I was 4 months. My obgyn a different office was fine with this. Apparently they see alot of people who are pregnant and have to worry about fetal alcohol syndrome and .... while pregnant. So they laughed at my 2 cigs a day questions.
So, I'm that woman who gave birth to healthy children, and refuses to pass judgment on another mother. If i see a pregnant woman smoking i know she might be going thru something. I knew a young girl that smoked and was pregnant but it helped her stay off ...... while pregnant. Sometimes it's not about what's healthy is about harm. Reduction.
Her Dr might have said vape away, while mine said i rather you have 2 cigs or 7 cigs a day.
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I heard this all the time in the 90s, however babies don't go thru withdrawal and stopping doesn't cause miscarriage. I have asked several maternal fetal drs, and they have always laughed in my face then told me it's a myth.
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No, it's not safe. Nothing is safe.
Can we quantify the risk? Probably not. We know smoking during pregnancy is not good, but we don't know how much of the ill effect is due to nicotine vs. other substances in the smoke that aren't present in vapor such as carbon monoxide (just to name one). Moreover, I'm not aware of any studies that compare the risk of smoking with vaping with doing neither during pregnancy.
Digression:
In 1992, when my wife (a never-smoker) was pregnant with our son, the conventional wisdom was that coffee and caffeine were quite bad and pregnant women should stop consuming them. So my wife did just that, which was anything but pleasant for her.
Five years later, in 1997, when she was pregnant with our daughter, the advice had changed to, "Don't drink a whole pot every day, but there's nothing wrong with having one cup in the morning." Since she had resumed drinking coffee the moment our son was born, my wife was very happy about that.
Interestingly enough, my son (who was not exposed to caffeine in utero) doesn't consume it in any form, but my daughter (who was) started drinking coffee in her late teens and her motto is, "Death before Decaf!"
I have often wondered if exposure to "addictive" substances in the womb increases the tendency to become addicted to those same substances later in life.
Right on Brother
meh, my mom smoked a couple packs a day to term with me and I turned out just fine. a little vaping for mom with a bun in the oven, who gives a biscuit...have at it I say, the lil bastige will prolly be all the better for a little nico to it's feeble infant brain. Buncha monkeys runnin round worryin about every rouge molecule they might be exposed to in their over precious lil safety zone bodies...pffthththtpt!
That’s the thing. The damage from smoking isn’t always extreme. The most noticeable effect is babies of smoking mothers are born a pound or two smaller, and have greater statistical chance but no guarantee, of a set of minor birth defects. It’s not like they spontaneously combust after leaving the womb. They’re just more likely to have problems in life. For most people of course, this is more than enough to not smoke during pregnancy.
My last pregnancy which was last year I had gestational diabetes. They warned me that later in life my daughter might end up being obese or developing type 2 diabetes. Their explanation was because I had gd my amniotic fluid was sweeter, therefore she would more then likely prefer sweet foods which would in turn lead her to a future of overeating. It never before occurred to me that amniotic fluid tasted like anything but it can and can determine your child's future eating habits. So maybe this explains your daughter's love of coffee?
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