Vaping Zone Concentrated DIY Flavors

[Starlyte2]

I agree, VZ concentrateds are by far the easiest flavours I've used. Now I've got LOADS of other tobacco flavours etc., from other marks. They all need steeping a month and don't even taste that good afterwards.
I started on VZ SC when I heard about them, about 9 months ago, and there's no comparison, especially for the tobacco ones. It's fool proof DIY mixing.
I use Burley, French Pipe, B&M, Dessert Ship, Donhill, Old Capt, B&H, FCV, Real Cig, and in large quantities, Sam Mint, as far as the tobaccos go, although I've tried most of them, and I can't say that I "don't like" any of them, I just have a preference for certain of them.
I also use quite a bit of Caramel, Mocha Caramel, Cream, Coconut, Vanilla, usually mixed in different combinations, which I use on its own, or with a Tobacco flavour. When I mix them together I aim for around 5%, so it's quite strong.
For the tobaccos I use 3% usually, or arrive at 3% if I mix 2 or 3 together.
I do like strong juice, so most people would use the recommended 2.5% I expect. It's a good starting point, as you can add a little if it's too weak.

After mixing I leave the top off for 12 to 24 hours, then I start vaping...although there are some that change colour and get richer after a week or so. The FP, Caramels, FCV and some others do like a steep, although it's not essential, and change from clearish to a lovely golden orange, or brown.

All said and done, I find the VZ or ECX super concentrated flavours really the best solution, especially if you want to make something fit to be vaped, and you don't want to wait a month to see if it is. I've mixed Sam Mint and vaped it 5 minutes later, and it's good. So don't hesitate...

 

[smitty9306]

I got my flavors yesterday. I couldn't wait to mix a couple. All are 100% VG, Mixed the black cigar 10ml 12 drops flavor, It is great right after mixing. Mixed the banana 10ML 12 drops of flavor, its not as strong as i would like,but I am gonna wait and let it steep for a few days before I add more flavor. All are 14 mg nic also. Thanks to everyone who did reviews. I think I finally found some decent flavors. Their shipping was super fast also.
Jon

 

[stoprealones]

I'm not sure where to post this,but I'm looking for a very simple way to DIY without having to measure the vg,pg out,if possible. I vape at 12%. I've only had the VZ pineapple e-juice they sell to see if I liked the flavor,and I love it! I found out that they make this juice from the concentrated line. I guess they are making the juice 80/20,but I'm not sure. Is there an easy way I could make my own juice. I read where people were just adding the flavor to premixed nic juice. I have no problem making up my batches of nic juice,but I'm not sure where to go from there,so I can just add the flavor. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[moishesmom]

Wish I could help on the mixing but I'm sure one of the brains on this thread will help you out on the correct ratios. I was thinking of ordering the VZ 'pineapple' & am so glad to hear you like it. I think I saw some in the 'gourmet' line (not sure), but I do love the 'concentrated' line. VZ is the only place I get my flavoring from.

I should add that I'm into heavy VG so I start out with just that plus my flavoring & then add a few drops of PG (allergy issue) distilled water, vodka, white or apple cider vinegar, & sometimes lemon juice. Pretty much the same way as I cook. No recipe..........

 

[stoprealones]

Thanks for your response,moishesmom; it's amazing how much money we can spend just trying to get one or two vapes that will keep us off the nasties,but ultimately,for me,it's worth it. I no longer have problems breathing.
I also felt like i had some issues with the pg,but so far,with the e-juice from VZ,I've not had any issues. I may call them to ask what their e-juice pg/vg ratio is. I believe the standard is pretty much an 80/20.
I do hope one of the experts in VZ line would chime in as I just feel like I went through so much to make my own juice when I did that I really don't want to go through so many hoops,as my health isn't' the best. I used the e-juice me up-It just seemed like so much work. I wouldn't mind just having a ready made nic juice at whatever percent and then just add the flavoring. I think the concentrated flavors from what I read is about 20%??? not sure on this. That is quite a lot of flavoring to have to add,but if I love it ,I will do it.

 

[moishesmom]

Thanks for your response,moishesmom; it's amazing how much money we can spend just trying to get one or two vapes that will keep us off the nasties,but ultimately,for me,it's worth it. I no longer have problems breathing.
I also felt like i had some issues with the pg,but so far,with the e-juice from VZ,I've not had any issues. I may call them to ask what their e-juice pg/vg ratio is. I believe the standard is pretty much an 80/20.
I do hope one of the experts in VZ line would chime in as I just feel like I went through so much to make my own juice when I did that I really don't want to go through so many hoops,as my health isn't' the best. I used the e-juice me up-It just seemed like so much work. I wouldn't mind just having a ready made nic juice at whatever percent and then just add the flavoring. I think the concentrated flavors from what I read is about 20%??? not sure on this. That is quite a lot of flavoring to have to add,but if I love it ,I will do it.

You'll do it. If you think you have issues with PG (I know I do) why not fill you're empty bottle to the halfway point or 3/4's of the way with VG, add a few drops of distilled water, & then add the PG. I add the white vinegar or vodka to kick up the flavor afterwards. You can always add more PG if you feel you need more.

I hate to tell you how many bottles of juice I have that are collecting dust because of my looking for 'the' flavor. It really is so simple & cost effective to DIY & chances are your going to like you're own better. Leave yourself open to experiment & always, but always, stay on the low side of adding flavoring; you can always add a few more drops as you go along. I'll even add right into the tank I'm using if I feel I'm in the mood for a drop of this or that.

Have no fear my friend - I'm sure you'll do fine. GOOD LUCK & ENJOY!!

 

[Stoneface]

I'm not sure where to post this,but I'm looking for a very simple way to DIY without having to measure the vg,pg out,if possible. I vape at 12%. I've only had the VZ pineapple e-juice they sell to see if I liked the flavor,and I love it! I found out that they make this juice from the concentrated line. I guess they are making the juice 80/20,but I'm not sure. Is there an easy way I could make my own juice. I read where people were just adding the flavor to premixed nic juice. I have no problem making up my batches of nic juice,but I'm not sure where to go from there,so I can just add the flavor. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm not completely sure if I understand the question, since near the end of your post you state that you have no problem making up batches of nic base. However, you can order 12mg nic base from VZ in different PG/VG ratios here. This would be prepared base ready for you to add flavorings, and would make it the simplest DIY. There are a few other vendors that will sell 12mg nic base as well if you check them out.

As for the strength of the VZ Super Concentrated line, I would not mix at 20%. I personally would start at 5% and then adjust from that point according to your palate.

I hope that helps

 

[stoprealones]

You'll do it. If you think you have issues with PG (I know I do) why not fill you're empty bottle to the halfway point or 3/4's of the way with VG, add a few drops of distilled water, & then add the PG. I add the white vinegar or vodka to kick up the flavor afterwards. You can always add more PG if you feel you need more.

I hate to tell you how many bottles of juice I have that are collecting dust because of my looking for 'the' flavor. It really is so simple & cost effective to DIY & chances are your going to like you're own better. Leave yourself open to experiment & always, but always, stay on the low side of adding flavoring; you can always add a few more drops as you go along. I'll even add right into the tank I'm using if I feel I'm in the mood for a drop of this or that.

Have no fear my friend - I'm sure you'll do fine. GOOD LUCK & ENJOY!!

Thanks,my friend

 

[stoprealones]

I'm not completely sure if I understand the question, since near the end of your post you state that you have no problem making up batches of nic base. However, you can order 12mg nic base from VZ in different PG/VG ratios here. This would be prepared base ready for you to add flavorings, and would make it the simplest DIY. There are a few other vendors that will sell 12mg nic base as well if you check them out.

As for the strength of the VZ Super Concentrated line, I would not mix at 20%. I personally would start at 5% and then adjust from that point according to your palate.

I hope that helps

Hi Stoneface,first of all ,thanks for your reply to my plight. Yes, I did see that vz offers the different premixed nic options,which is wonderful,but I'm not using the Super concentrate,I'd be using the Concentrated flavoring which, from what I understand, requires 20%
to make; I'm not certain about this,but I thought I read it somewhere on this thread.
Because I'd be making it at such a high concentration,I don't think I could get around having to add some pg or vg to a higher mg base. I think that using 20% flavoring,would bring the nic level down a bit too low for me having to use so much flavoring. If I used the Super Concentrated ones,I guess it wouldn't affect it too much,and it could work.
I just thought perhaps someone might have come up with a way around this somehow using the concentrated flavoring,but it's probably not possible.
I should ask the question ,too,if anyone can compare the pineapple flavoring in the Concentrate to the pineapple in the Super Concentrate flavoring. That would make everything a lot easier if the flavoring in the super concentrate tasted just as good. At 5% ,it wouldn't be that affected.
Thanks Again

 

[Stoneface]

Hi Stoneface,first of all ,thanks for your reply to my plight. Yes, I did see that vz offers the different premixed nic options,which is wonderful,but I'm not using the Super concentrate,I'd be using the Concentrated flavoring which, from what I understand, requires 20% to make; I'm not certain about this,but I thought I read it somewhere on this thread.
Because I'd be making it at such a high concentration,I don't think I could get around having to add some pg or vg to a higher mg base. I think that using 20% flavoring,would bring the nic level down a bit too low for me having to use so much flavoring. If I used the Super Concentrated ones,I guess it wouldn't affect it too much,and it could work.
I just thought perhaps someone might have come up with a way around this somehow using the concentrated flavoring,but it's probably not possible.
I should ask the question ,too,if anyone can compare the pineapple flavoring in the Concentrate to the pineapple in the Super Concentrate flavoring. That would make everything a lot easier if the flavoring in the super concentrate tasted just as good. At 5% ,it wouldn't be that affected.
Thanks Again

Sorry about the concentrate vs SC...my bad I still wouldn't start with 20% on those either, I would try those at 10% and adjust from that point. I would also guess that some of those flavors could be mixed at a lower percentage, especially for those that are typically strong flavorings like coffees or clove. I haven't tried the pineapple flavorings you asked about, sorry.

I personally haven't worried about diluting my nic base with the flavorings too much, since none of my DIY mixes use 20% of flavoring. If you're using a 10% flavoring mix, then you are only adjusting the nic content by 1.2mg/ml...I'm not sure that I personally would notice the difference. However, if you are concerned with making those adjustments, you could try starting with a 14mg/ml nic base that would bring you close to a true 12mg/ml final product. The easiest way to do that with VZ products would be to order 18mg nic base and add PG/VG to adjust the nic content. Of course, an ejuice calculator would really help you out there (I didn't check mine to offer the ratios, but I'm sure you can do it with yours). Good luck with it

 

[stoprealones]

I was thinking that if I made a 15% nic juice at like 60/20 pg/vg, and add the 20% pg flavoring,I think it's pg,I would make a 12% mix of 80/20 mix....not sure if this would be right.Math isn't my best subject........

 

[Stoneface]

I was thinking that if I made a 15% nic juice at like 60/20 pg/vg, and add the 20% pg flavoring,I think it's pg,I would make a 12% mix of 80/20 mix....not sure if this would be right.Math isn't my best subject........

That's one of the reasons we all use juice calculators I would caution against using too much flavor, though. Too much flavoring really can ruin a juice. If you are going to start with a high percentage of flavoring, I would recommend mixing in plain PG/VG first so that you don't "waste" nic base.

 

[stoprealones]

Maybe I'm wrong about using 20% for the flavoring for the concentrated. I know there's a section for the super concentrated flavorings that only 2.% is recommended,and then there is the DIY section of flavors which I was told is the concentrated flavorings. I would really like to know how much is the recommended amount for that group of flavorings as the person's post I read might be wrong.
I know,Stoneface,I think I would really need to use a calculator if I use the concentrated flavors, if in fact it does require that much flavoring.btw,I think it would need to be 64/20pg/vg unflavored though to make a batch. Again, I could very well be wrong. I'll plug the figures into my e-juice and see what it says. I'm just trying to make an unflavored that I could just add what I need. If I could get an accurate amount of flavoring that needs to be added,I would have a much better idea where to begin.
I just thought I'd chime in here to see if I could get more info on the cocentrated flavoring amounts,and the easiest way to make a final product.
Again,thanks so much for chiming in

 

[Stoneface]

Definitely let us know on this thread once you decide the final percentage for the flavorings. I would be interested to find out if the Concentrates require 20%.

 

[JJ1977]

i just got in 15 flavors today - pear, kiwi, banana cream, nuport, keylime, cherry, strawberry, grape, mojito, blueberry, banana, mandarin, mixed fruit, real cig, black cigar. i just did 10 different bottles at 10ml with 2% flavoring, ill let you know the outcome in a few days, if they are good or i added little bit more

 

[justinstar77]

Definitely let us know on this thread once you decide the final percentage for the flavorings. I would be interested to find out if the Concentrates require 20%.

Please, don't try a 20% concentrate mix.start out at 2% you can always add more if you want more flavor...

 

[EgoLife]

I have already been playing with vaping zones super concentrates which only require 2-3% thus far. And some flavors less that are the SC versions. I have also bought from vaping zone some regular concentrates like the piña colada which is NOT a super concentrate but a concentrate non the less. The bottle indicates anywhere to use from 5% to 20%. I have been doing my homework for some time before even purchasing anything to do with DIY and I felt comfortable trying the flavor of the piña colada in a 5ml test bottle @ 10% flavor 70Vg/30Pg and the flavor is great. My friend really likes it as well. Hope this helps some.

Idk why people are saying 20% that just sounds like overkill... Start lower like some people are saying I mean think about it.... Why would you want to burn yourself on a high overpowered flavor that is gonna potentially make you dislike something rather than tweaking as you go... Just my 2 cents.

 

[JJ1977]

Here we go all flavors are from VZ SC except a few they are TFA's, all are based on 10ml bottles and 24hrs steeping with tops off

Nuport - at 5 drops added only 2 drops of TFA menthol decent flavor but im working on it.

Real Cig + Strawberry - at 4 drops RC and 4 drops Strawberry, the fruit flavor is a hint behind the R.C flavor resembles baccy imo

Mojito - 5 drops well after 1 day the flavor is promising i believe will be better with a nice fruit flavor, in the works

Banana Cream Pie + Banana - dont ask why i did this combo lol, at 5 drops BCP and 4 drops banana, im not disappointed another day should do it

Keylime + Graham Cracker Cheesecake - at 5 drops keylime + 14 drops TFA G.C.C im just not feeling it

Real Cig + Menthol - 4 drops RC and 3 drops TFA menthol, might have to tone back the menthol back to 1-2 drops per 10ml other than that its a nice flavor

Mandarin - well idk but im not a fan jmho

Pear,Kiwi,Grape,Strawberry - of all the fruit combos i could have done idk i did this 1 lol at 2 drops each i could feel this 1 if it has some say 12mg nic in it lol but overall decent flavor

Cherry + Black Cigar - at 5 drops BC and 4 drops Cherry, theres a faint taste of cherry there but not much, the after taste of cigar like aroma in your mouth.

Given these are only personal views of mine. If your beginning into DIY ejuices dont always go by only 1 opinion because what i might like you might not like and vise versa. There is a world of flavors out there and im only in the infant stages of my explorations happy vaping my vaping community.

 

[Slots]

why people are saying 20% that just sounds like overkill... Start lower like some people are saying I mean think about it.... Why would you want to burn yourself on a high overpowered flavor that is gonna potentially make you dislike something rather than tweaking as you go... Just my 2 cents.

Why ?? Because after 56 years of smoking, my taste buds are shot.
I've been vaping for a year, and I gave up on them improving any more than they had after the first 3 months
I use 17-20% .. once in a while more....but NOT of the super concentrates.
I really can use a LOT less of them.
That's not "overpowered" to me, it's just the only way I can taste a flavor.

I could save some $$$ if I didn't have to use that much, but that's where I have to be.
When someone asks for suggestions, I tell them to start low and work their way up, like you do.
I rarely give out recipes because of that, but when I see one with percentages that high being shared, I know why.
Some of us don't have a choice if we want to enjoy the flavor.
If your going to use the super's, start at what they recommend on the bottle.
Most of them are between 2.5 to 5%

 

[EgoLife]

Why ?? Because after 56 years of smoking, my taste buds are shot.
I've been vaping for a year, and I gave up on them improving any more than they had after the first 3 months
I use 17-20% .. once in a while more....but NOT of the super concentrates.
I really can use a LOT less of them.
That's not "overpowered" to me, it's just the only way I can taste a flavor.

I could save some $$$ if I didn't have to use that much, but that's where I have to be.
When someone asks for suggestions, I tell them to start low and work their way up, like you do.
I rarely give out recipes because of that, but when I see one with percentages that high being shared, I know why.
Some of us don't have a choice if we want to enjoy the flavor.
If your going to use the super's, start at what they recommend on the bottle.
Most of them are between 2.5 to 5%

I can understand that ~ If I were you wouldn't you just jump into Super Concentrates? I don't know if you've tried them but the SC's are pretty strong to say the least.

for me... I think I am going to try a Gourmet flavor or two... I really don't know where I am going to go after VZ maybe Hangsen's because I hear good things but I have to do some more searching but yea... undoubtedly my next vendor would be them I guess.....I wonder if they have SC...

Anyhow yea I always wondered about those high percentages since they seemed quite high I just mixed some SC Blackberry today for a couple of friends to try and so far they really like it as well FYI to anyone ~ I don't know if everyone knows but the VZ bottles are 45 drops per 1ML - I had to learn that the hard way - failed like 6 flavor tests because I was going on a 20drop per 1ml before which is incorrect... at least with these bottles