vapingi is not for everyone
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Why all the evangelism?
Sure, you have their best interests at heart, but in the end when you try to push your lifestyle choices on someone else you come across just as annoying as the hand-fanning, fake-coughing anti-smoking militants. It makes people less likely to follow your suggestion, not more.
Just live and let live.
If there's one thing about vaping that turns me completely off it's the significant number of people who treat it like a religion and worry about how many smokers they can get to "convert".
It's very off-putting.
Sure, you have their best interests at heart, but in the end when you try to push your lifestyle choices on someone else you come across just as annoying as the hand-fanning, fake-coughing anti-smoking militants. It makes people less likely to follow your suggestion, not more.
Just live and let live.
If there's one thing about vaping that turns me completely off it's the significant number of people who treat it like a religion and worry about how many smokers they can get to "convert".
It's very off-putting.
My husband is the same he will use the e-cig around me out of respect for me but still goes outside to grab a cig. I think finding a flavor that he really likes will probably help, but no success at that as of yet.
It's not you it's them. I gave up converting a long time ago. I will share my knoweldge and offer suggestions, but that is it, i will usually say "if you want to give it a real shot, let me know and i will help you". I only have 1 fully converted girlfriend.
I have a few people that have started vaping and they switch back and forth. Always keep in mind that as long as they are using it thats one less real cig they had. Give them time and get them to try new flavours. I have my favs but it get boring after time . so i switch it up a bit. thats what has worked for me
Quitting analogs is hard and everyone handles it differently, My wife "converted" her best friends entire family and with in 2 weeks all of them except the friend were back to smoking. a couple of weeks ago her friend gave up vaping too. sometimes environment plays a big role in quitting.
They just have to want to. This weekend I bummed a smoke from a friend, didn't really want it. Just wanted to see what it tasted like after a couple months without it. Put it in my mouth and couldn't even light it. Gave it back to him. Was stinking just holding it in my mouth under my nose. Like they said, if they want to give up the sticks, they will.
I have to agree with your view point. And before I get flamed for the following.........This forum isn't a bad thing if it helps people to quit smoking, not at all. So with that said.....How many forums are out there for people that smoke? Or people that are active alcoholics or drug abusers? I guess what I mean is that those are pretty much solitary experiences, not something you socialize about. I just find it kind of strange that we socialize so much about vaping.... just saying....
I have to agree with your view point. And before I get flamed for the following.........This forum isn't a bad thing if it helps people to quit smoking, not at all. So with that said.....How many forums are out there for people that smoke? Or people that are active alcoholics or drug abusers? I guess what I mean is that those are pretty much solitary experiences, not something you socialize about. I just find it kind of strange that we socialize so much about vaping.... just saying....
Well since there isn't a SA group that I'm aware of, I know I can find the support I need right here . . . whether in a agreement or disagreement. Ever been to AA or NA? . . . socializing with those sharing a common thread, active as well as those celebrating sobriety, is what help so many make it to full sobriety . . . and they serve coffee and cookies!!
It's time to call it a night . . . where's my coffee and cookies?? Oh they're in my PV!!
Actually, there is a SA, or at least used to be. Never caught on the way AA and NA did, though.
And your comparison of AA to this forum is actually a pretty decent one. AA does wonderful things and just flat out works miracles for those who seek it out. On the other hand you have those who show up because their PO will throw them in jail if they don't get that little paper signed 3 times a week. It doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for them.
Same thing here. If a smoker finds his way to this forum looking for an alternative to smoking, then by all means, give the guy any and all the help he needs!
But to go and actively seek out smokers who have no desire to quit, and then trying to push them into it?
Yeah, it should come as no surprise that there's a low success rate associated with that.
And if they finally do want to quit smoking someday, it's quite likely that a great many will be very hesitant to consider this particular alternative just due to the annoying evangelism that is now associated with it in their minds.
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I totally agree, subliminalurge, but I guess I missed the part about seeking out co-workers who smoke and have no desire to quit, and then trying to push them into it. I just picked up on stories of people sharing what has worked for them and were met with interest, sometimes interest enough to purchase a PV, but then got disappointed that it didn't take. I guess it's kind of like getting excited that a drinking buddy asks to go to a meeting with you and then heads off to a bar directly after. It's disappointing and you can't help but wonder what you could have done differently for a different outcome. And like I think the majority here have stated, there's nothing more that you can do. The decision is theirs.
Happy vaping!!
Happy vaping!!
I think one of the problems is the cheap cigs you find at truck stops and gas stations. That's how I started and found them pretty lame but good enough to think there must be something better. I went through several over the counter brands and finally tried Mistics...which were pretty good.
But if people started with a good e-cig, with plenty of vapor etc more might take the plung...
But if people started with a good e-cig, with plenty of vapor etc more might take the plung...
That was in reference to the OP expressing frustration at his lack of success with "trying to convert people".
The "vaping as a religion" model that some folks seem to follow is just something that I find extremely distasteful.
Some of my friends, when they see me vaping, I can tell they just see it as a way to get to smoke indoors and out of the cold. When I started vaping, I got my one friend to start with me because he really needed to quit (his gf was tearing him to shreds for smoking). That left my last friend, who only seems really interested in vaping when he's with us and realizes he has to trek outside alone. A lot of people think it's just a way to cheat the system and that it's like smoking in pretty much every way. I always inform them that it is still quitting. You have to want to quit for it to work.
As others have mentioned, if you are motivated, the chances of switching are greatly increased.
On the other hand, I too fall into the category of those that tried vaping but returned to cigarettes. I went back to cigarettes because of the inadequacies of the device, the high price, lack of widespread availability and user error. The feel, hit and taste I get today are worlds apart from what I first experienced.
Additionally, I have always believed the first puff on an e-cig should really leave an impression. If it is a small device with an overly-used carto it will not make the right first impression.
Could this be the reason?
On the other hand, I too fall into the category of those that tried vaping but returned to cigarettes. I went back to cigarettes because of the inadequacies of the device, the high price, lack of widespread availability and user error. The feel, hit and taste I get today are worlds apart from what I first experienced.
Additionally, I have always believed the first puff on an e-cig should really leave an impression. If it is a small device with an overly-used carto it will not make the right first impression.
Could this be the reason?
People will do what they want... you can't control that.. but if they are vaping a lot, that means they are putting a lot less analogs into their lungs.
Before I get into a serious discussion about vaping, I normally point people towards several wiki pages about smoking and e-cigarettes.
Most people seem to doubt what people tell them to their faces--but they never seem to question a Wiki page.
Most people seem to doubt what people tell them to their faces--but they never seem to question a Wiki page.
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