Vapor 1000 Review

[Legato525]

This is my full review on the Vapor 1000 from Vaporcig.com.
The Vapor 1000 Review-
Packaging – When you first receive your Vapor 1000 Product it is packaged very nicely in a well designed box. I have kept two of my Vapor 1000 boxes to use as transport. The package provides nice support for the product and everything is nicely packaged. “Grade – A”

Documentation – Vaporcig.com provides a wealth of documentation with their product. I received the standard manual in the box itself, as well as a printed document that goes in to much more detail than the standard manual. This document includes the standard vaporizer information, as well as a FAQ and detailed maintenance information. I also received a small pamphlet on how to charge the batteries as well as using e-liquid. The documentation that is provided is a wealth of information that I would have loved to had when I bought my first vaporizer. “Grade – A+”

Setup – The setup for the Vapor 1000 is very similar to the setup of most vaporizers. The only difference I have noticed here is the fact that you should discharge the factory charge prior to conditioning the batteries. Here is another difference, Vaporcig.com recommends charging the batteries for 5 hours for the first 3 charges. I see no problems with this for people who live at home. For me, it’s a little tougher due to my constant work and travel. But still I have had no problem with conditioning my batteries. “Grade – B+”

Atomizers – The atomizer for the Vapor 1000 is smaller than the regular DSE 801’s. I have not found this to be a problem at all, since all my cartridges fit just fine. I have tried generic cartridges as well as njoy’s. When you hook your battery to the atomizer it fits snuggly and does not have any air leakage, so you get a good draw. After priming and using for about 24 hours, the atomizer becomes a work horse. These atomizers produce a great amount of vapor, and you can tell that the flavors are wonderful do to the craftsmanship of the coils. The only thing I have found that could be an issue with the atomizers is if your cart gets low on liquid, the coils heat very high and can give you a slight bitter taste. Not a problem though if you keep your carts filled and primed. The documentation says it has a self cleaning mode. I do not believe it does after my continuous usage of the product. (This is good.J) “Grade – A”

Batteries – Here is the hard part. Many people have had a lot of trouble with the batteries. I myself had to exchange three batteries of my four batteries. Now, I believe the issue has been corrected. I have not read any complaints on the board about the batteries being bad for a while. These batteries are a new breed for sure. They provide a lot of air flow, which is good and bad. Good because you do not have to draw hard to get a good hit. Bad because the battery is sensitive and can provide a false reading regarding battery charge. This is what I have found. Nine fast flashes is the long drag cutoff. Twenty to twenty one slow flashes are the too many drags in under a minute warning. (This is what I believe people are seeing when they believe that the unit goes into self cleaning so often.) Last but not least, twenty five to twenty six slow flashes means the battery is low and needs replacing. These batteries do have a good charge that has lasted me at least six hours of good use. For someone who vapes less than I do, I can see you getting eight to ten hours of use. Now a downfall is due to the sensitivity of the batteries you can get a twenty flash cutoff more often than other 801’s. Other than these slight issues, these batteries are a great step towards perfected long life batteries. “Grade – B”

Miscellaneous – This product is great for dripping. I have never had such a great vaporizer that works as well as the vapor 1000 for dripping. They produce a ton of vapor and you can drip a little more than usual without trashing the coils. I actually drip with my Vapor 1000’s more that I use carts. As for maintenance, this product is not a cheap knock off. This is a very well engineered electronic. Keep it clean. And it will be a work horse for a long time to come. As for guarantee, Vaporcig.com has the best guarantee on the market. One year for batteries and five years on the atomizers. No one is going to sell an item with that kind of guarantee without truly believing in their produce. Vaporcig.com believes more in their product than I have ever seen before. Vaporcig.com’s customer service is unmatched. You can reach them right on their website and usually receive a reply within an hour during business hours. Their local customer service reps in southern California are very knowledgeable and friendly. No one at Vaporcig.com pressures their customers in to a sale. If you have tried their product, you know it can sell itself. “Grade – A+”

I hope this review is helpful to people who are considering a first or new vaporizer for their collection.

 

[jamie]

As for guarantee, Vaporcig.com has the best guarantee on the market. One year for batteries and five years on the atomizers. No one is going to sell an item with that kind of guarantee without truly believing in their produce.

To avoid folks being mislead: the company states that they do not warranty the atomizers "if you are using our atomizer with someone else's battery" (however this is not disclosed on their website prior to purchase).

I don't have anything against Marian and would prefer to see this situation rectified rather than having to post reminders so that fellow ecig users are not misled.

 

[Legato525]

I agree. I did not give the disclaimer because it is in the detailed documentation provided with the unit. To be honest, you are making a big deal out of this. Njoy does not guarantee their product if you use E-liquid in it, this is not even in their documentation. The website might not tell you about the guarantee disclaimer, but why does it need too. It is a complete product, not generic parts. If you want to purchase their product for use with other products, they don't care, but you cannot guarantee a product to work with other unknown, untested products, that is just bad business and in my opinion, common sense. I am not trying to argue, I just don't see the need for the disclaimer. If you put a Ford part in a GM car, obviously GM will no longer guarantee that vehicle.

 

[makdevo]

Great review. I too have a vapor 1000. It is a work horse and my primary smoker. I use it at work all day every day for several weeks now. The great thing is batteries charge in just a couple of hours.

I will purchase at least 2 more (hope they are in stock) because my wife is now starting to want to use mine.

Vaporcig is also great to work with. I wish them much success.

 

[windblown]

Yes, that was a great review, Legato! I definitely agree about the A+ for customer service. What a pleasure to be able to pick up the phone and talk to a live person. Fortunately, I haven't had to return any parts, but I have talked to Marian's assistant, Debbie several times, and she is always extremely friendly and helpful.

When I didn't respond fast enough to Debbie's email to clear up some confusion on an order for e-liquid, she just called my cell phone so that she could get the package shipped out that day. How often do you find service like that?

My favorite thing about the Vapor 1000 is that it is the closest I have found to "real smoking". Maybe Marian can explain it, but it's a mystery to me. The first time I picked it up and inhaled, I just thought, "finally"!!!

Another thing I love is the rubber tip on the cartridges..... so much more comfortable than the hard plastic ones!

I compared the atomizer to my Janty KB and Ruyan, and they all look the same size to me. The carts are a perfect fit for either one of them and for my generic 801, as well.

Mine is about 6 weeks old now, and I haven't had a problem with any of the parts so far. I guess that just jinxed it! I get about the same time as others have mentioned....5 or 6 hours on the batteries. I don't usually drip, but it's really nice knowing that the battery is sealed so that you can drip if you want to. I can't even count the number of batteries I ruined before I realized that I was drowning them in e-liquid.

There is plenty of vapor, and the throat hit is just about right for me. You can definitely feel it, but it isn't at all harsh.

As for the warranty, I agree that it would be impossible to guarantee any e-cig when it is used with parts from another manufacturer. Where else do you find a warranty like this?!! Really, it's a no-brainer!

 

[Legato525]

I also love the rubber tips. When I bought some from Marian, she told me that some people say its like smoking a rubber tire. I don't see how, but it does change the taste a little. But ya I love them.

 

[mixxy]

Another Vapor 1000 fan! Though I was one that had some of the bad batteries in the beginning... Marian & staff were super.. and sent out new batteries right away until we got things were working correctly. I ended up loving my Vapor 1000 more than my 901 or my Dura, and use it most of the time at home, and just take my shorter 901 or Dura with me when I go out. The Vapor 1000 was my first pen style e-cig, so mixing with other generic parts wasn't/isn't an issue for me with the warranty factor... so no big deal. Since it comes with 2 atomizers and 2 batteries unless 2 (of either) were to go out at the same time I would have no problem waiting for a replacement... so I love not feeling like I need to stockpile extra parts for this e-cig with the life-time warranty on the atomizer, and 1 year warranty on the batteries!

 

[texastumbleweed]

Great review! And from a trucker, that alone should say something, as you probably vape away while truckin!
I am fixin' to place an order!
Thanks so much!

This is my full review on the Vapor 1000 from Vaporcig.com.
The Vapor 1000 Review-
Packaging – When you first receive your Vapor 1000 Product it is packaged very nicely in a well designed box. I have kept two of my Vapor 1000 boxes to use as transport. The package provides nice support for the product and everything is nicely packaged. “Grade – A”

Documentation – Vaporcig.com provides a wealth of documentation with their product. I received the standard manual in the box itself, as well as a printed document that goes in to much more detail than the standard manual. This document includes the standard vaporizer information, as well as a FAQ and detailed maintenance information. I also received a small pamphlet on how to charge the batteries as well as using E-Liquid. The documentation that is provided is a wealth of information that I would have loved to had when I bought my first vaporizer. “Grade – A+”

Setup – The setup for the Vapor 1000 is very similar to the setup of most vaporizers. The only difference I have noticed here is the fact that you should discharge the factory charge prior to conditioning the batteries. Here is another difference, Vaporcig.com recommends charging the batteries for 5 hours for the first 3 charges. I see no problems with this for people who live at home. For me, it’s a little tougher due to my constant work and travel. But still I have had no problem with conditioning my batteries. “Grade – B+”

Atomizers – The atomizer for the Vapor 1000 is smaller than the regular DSE 801’s. I have not found this to be a problem at all, since all my cartridges fit just fine. I have tried generic cartridges as well as njoy’s. When you hook your battery to the atomizer it fits snuggly and does not have any air leakage, so you get a good draw. After priming and using for about 24 hours, the atomizer becomes a work horse. These atomizers produce a great amount of vapor, and you can tell that the flavors are wonderful do to the craftsmanship of the coils. The only thing I have found that could be an issue with the atomizers is if your cart gets low on liquid, the coils heat very high and can give you a slight bitter taste. Not a problem though if you keep your carts filled and primed. The documentation says it has a self cleaning mode. I do not believe it does after my continuous usage of the product. (This is good.J) “Grade – A”

Batteries – Here is the hard part. Many people have had a lot of trouble with the batteries. I myself had to exchange three batteries of my four batteries. Now, I believe the issue has been corrected. I have not read any complaints on the board about the batteries being bad for a while. These batteries are a new breed for sure. They provide a lot of air flow, which is good and bad. Good because you do not have to draw hard to get a good hit. Bad because the battery is sensitive and can provide a false reading regarding battery charge. This is what I have found. Nine fast flashes is the long drag cutoff. Twenty to twenty one slow flashes are the too many drags in under a minute warning. (This is what I believe people are seeing when they believe that the unit goes into self cleaning so often.) Last but not least, twenty five to twenty six slow flashes means the battery is low and needs replacing. These batteries do have a good charge that has lasted me at least six hours of good use. For someone who vapes less than I do, I can see you getting eight to ten hours of use. Now a downfall is due to the sensitivity of the batteries you can get a twenty flash cutoff more often than other 801’s. Other than these slight issues, these batteries are a great step towards perfected long life batteries. “Grade – B”

Miscellaneous – This product is great for dripping. I have never had such a great vaporizer that works as well as the vapor 1000 for dripping. They produce a ton of vapor and you can drip a little more than usual without trashing the coils. I actually drip with my Vapor 1000’s more that I use carts. As for maintenance, this product is not a cheap knock off. This is a very well engineered electronic. Keep it clean. And it will be a work horse for a long time to come. As for guarantee, Vaporcig.com has the best guarantee on the market. One year for batteries and five years on the atomizers. No one is going to sell an item with that kind of guarantee without truly believing in their produce. Vaporcig.com believes more in their product than I have ever seen before. Vaporcig.com’s customer service is unmatched. You can reach them right on their website and usually receive a reply within an hour during business hours. Their local customer service reps in southern California are very knowledgeable and friendly. No one at Vaporcig.com pressures their customers in to a sale. If you have tried their product, you know it can sell itself. “Grade – A+”

I hope this review is helpful to people who are considering a first or new vaporizer for their collection.

 

[DCrist721]

I have some issues with this site, because they claim that vaping is safe and healthy, without providing links to any studies which show that it's safe to inhale these chemicals. And in the FAQ, they plainly state that, "no, nicotine is not bad for you," when in fact nicotine causes brain damage over time, and can cause cardiovascular problems, not to mention being a poison that could easily kill your children or pets, or even you, and that it is an extremely addictive substance.

 

[ForHim]

I am so grateful to read your review! I just ordered the Vapor 1000 yesterday (before reading the review) and I can't wait to get it! It will be my first and I am so hoping that it will help me kick the habit altogether. I am so grateful to have found this forum....I really appreciate the information that everyone shares. The only thing that bums me out is that I am on the other side of the country and will have to wait awhile until my order comes. I am ready to get started! Thanks everyone for all the shared info.
Sharon

 

[Texmac1011]

(Posted in another forum)

I just received my Vapor 1000 Wednesday night, so my experience is limited. Also, many thanks to all who took the time to write about this and other models. At least I was able to make an informed decision, be it right or wrong.


1. Great packaging, arrived on time (ordered Friday and was told it would arrive Wednesday). I got the blue one. Pink is not my style and black wasn't an option for the starter kit.
2. I have been struggling with the batteries. One seems to charge for the initial 5 hours and last a day or 2. The other is on the charger now for it's 3rd 5 hour cycle and wants to last an hour or 2 before it starts blinking and going dim. I have had some instances where the battery blinks at me 25 times for some reason. The LED is bright and it still works, so I'm not sure what this is.
3. I have no experience with throat hits and vapor quantity, but have learned both are better if I don't have a cartridge in. (Can someone explain this to me?) I have read a lot about cartridges and dripping on this site and, while it is great info, I have managed to confuse myself thoroughly.
4. After using the vaporizer for 1 day, I switched to the other (it comes with 2) and the 2nd one seemed to work better than the first. Being new, I am probably the reason for this, so I will clean, blow, etc. to see if I have clogged the 1st one up.
5. The flavor cartridge thing is great ( I got orange and cherry), but so far appears to be irrelevant. Both flavors taste the same (flavorless), so either I need to try flavors from somewhere else or lower my expectations.
6. I was a 1-1/2 a day smoker and am on my 2nd cartridge, so the cartridges are lasting longer than I thought they would.
7. I can't seem to keep the LED lit for one continuos drag, no matter how slow I go, but this is a goal for me and I will keep trying. It is easy to do without the cartridge in.
8. I have to learn to vape without looking at the LED on the end or my auto insurance is going to increase considerably.
9. I underestimated the nicotine impact of my former cigs (Eclipse-no published nicotine info). I ordered the low content cartridges and, while I sure they will help me lower my addiction level, I am getting irritable from time to time (sorry honey).
10. I am committed to doing this and will not stop! If nothing else, it is a $70/week raise for me, if I stay away from the cigs.

Thanks for everyone's info on this site. It was, and will continue to be a great resource for me and others who come along.

 

[Legato525]

Hey Texas, I do vape all day while I truck down the road. Keeps me sane I hope you will love your vapor 1000, If you don't think something is right, contact them, they will be happy to help.

Also, Hippie, I can tell you that all of the information on the website is being reviewed and probably going to be edited, I don't know when, I just know it is being reviewed.

 

[DCrist721]

Also, Hippie, I can tell you that all of the information on the website is being reviewed and probably going to be edited, I don't know when, I just know it is being reviewed.

I agree. I did not give the disclaimer because it is in the detailed documentation provided with the unit. To be honest, you are making a big deal out of this. Njoy does not guarantee their product if you use E-liquid in it, this is not even in their documentation. The website might not tell you about the guarantee disclaimer, but why does it need too. It is a complete product, not generic parts. If you want to purchase their product for use with other products, they don't care, but you cannot guarantee a product to work with other unknown, untested products, that is just bad business and in my opinion, common sense. I am not trying to argue, I just don't see the need for the disclaimer. If you put a Ford part in a GM car, obviously GM will no longer guarantee that vehicle.

Why are you so defensive about this company? And how do you happen to know that the information is being reviewed? I'm starting to feel like you have connections to that that company, or might even own it. I wouldn't be surprised at all with all of the scamming that's been going on here lately.

I think it's wrong that this company doesn't mention that bit about the warranty be voided if you use other batteries on the website. They know that if they put it on the website they wouldn't make as many sales, so they choose not to. Hiding information from you customers is "just bad business." If someone goes and orders a Vapor 1000 from that website and then orders extra batteries from another website (Because vaporcig.com overcharges by double or more on just about everything) before the vaporcig order comes, then that person is screwed and stuck with the other batteries that they payed for but can't use. Or if they buy a passthrough from another site, since vaporcig.com doesnt sell these at all, they are just as screwed.

The Car Analogy is a totally different situation though. Putting a Ford part in a GM car is replacing one part with one that is for completely different make and model of car. All e-cigs come from the same handful of chinese manfacturers, so whether you buy a part for a given model at store A or you buy the same part for the same model at store B, those two parts are going to be identicle, because they both are for the same model number and they both come from the same manufacturer.

A more accurate comparison would be buying your car from one dealership, and then getting replacement parts for the same car at a different dealership. Yes you are buying from two different businesses, but they are selling the same product from the same company - so therefore that car is still under warranty.

I'm pretty sure that the Vapor 1000 is a DSE901, and I'm postive that the Vapor 2000 is an RN4081, especially after just looking at the atomizer. So if anyone is interested in either of these products, you can get them at most other e-cig stores for $50, which is half the price of the same models at vaporcig.com

 

[mixxy]

Why are you so defensive about this company? And how do you happen to know that the information is being reviewed? I'm starting to feel like you have connections to that that company, or might even own it. I wouldn't be surprised at all with all of the scamming that's been going on here lately.

It seems to me that most people on this forum tend to share when they are happy with a product/supplier... OR when they are unhappy as well. What I'm not understanding is why there have been several people adding input (and some continue to add negatives over and over again) to this thread that haven't even used these products themselves? Why? Legato525 has mentioned several times that he purchased his Vapor 1000 in person from the kiosk at the mall where they are sold in California, and has talked to Marian/staff there in person. Only makes sense that he would know more details on the workings of the company that those of us that purchased online. So now that makes him suspect of a scam? Or owning the company???

I'm pretty sure that the Vapor 1000 is a DSE901, and I'm postive that the Vapor 2000 is an RN4081, especially after just looking at the atomizer. So if anyone is interested in either of these products, you can get them at most other e-cig stores for $50, which is half the price of the same models at vaporcig.com

The Vapor 1000 is not a DSE 901 -- it is a pen style. But the point is... yes... someone can buy an e-cig for $50... then 14 days later (in most cases) can start buying plenty of extra parts to keep that e-cig going @ about $10.00 & $15.00 for atomizers & batteries (through most suppliers.) While not everyone will agree... for me the great warranty on the Vapor 1000 is well worth the extra initial cost to me. I don't have any other pen style parts (and don't need them with this warranty) so I also have no problem with the warranty conditions either.

 

[DCrist721]

It seems to me that most people on this forum tend to share when they are happy with a product/supplier... OR when they are unhappy as well. What I'm not understanding is why there have been several people adding input (and some continue to add negatives over and over again) to this thread that haven't even used these products themselves? Why? Legato525 has mentioned several times that he purchased his Vapor 1000 in person from the kiosk at the mall where they are sold in California, and has talked to Marian/staff there in person. Only makes sense that he would know more details on the workings of the company that those of us that purchased online. So now that makes him suspect of a scam? Or owning the company???



The Vapor 1000 is not a DSE 901 -- it is a pen style. But the point is... yes... someone can buy an e-cig for $50... then 14 days later (in most cases) can start buying plenty of extra parts to keep that e-cig going @ about $10.00 & $15.00 for atomizers & batteries (through most suppliers.) While not everyone will agree... for me the great warranty on the Vapor 1000 is well worth the extra initial cost to me. I don't have any other pen style parts (and don't need them with this warranty) so I also have no problem with the warranty conditions either.

It wasn't so much the fact that he knew some stuff about the company, what mainly made me suspicious was because of the way he defended the fact that the company hides the conditions of the warranty until after you've purchased the product. I don't understand how a consumer could justify a company lying to them (yes lying, omission is still lying) and then go one step further and even defend the company on this.

You mentioned "What I'm not understanding is why there have been several people adding input (and some continue to add negatives over and over again) to this thread that haven't even used these products themselves?"
Since I'm the only person that had more then one post with negative comments, I guess that's directed at me. However, I don't need to have used this company to purchase an item for the company to effect me. This company immediately put me at odds against them when I came across them making claims that vaping was safe (despite no evidence that indicates it is) and that nicotine isn't bad for you (which is far from true). It's companies like this that are going to screw things up for all of us, so yeah, I think any vaper has a right to add their input about this company, including me.

And I have used one of these products myself, the RN4081 (Vapor 2000) and it's barely worth $50 let alone $100.

A company that is willing to omit important information and make false claims to increase sales would very likely be willing to post a fake review, and so certain things that I read immediatly set up red flags in my mind. I'm not making accusations, I'm just expressing my suspicions. It's not that I don't trust Legato, it's that I don't trust this company, and they've given me good reason not to.

 

[bml]

Omg.8-o This product review thread has become a thread that a person who is making false statement is accusing a company making false claims.

I'm pretty sure that the Vapor 1000 is a DSE901, and I'm postive that the Vapor 2000 is an RN4081, especially after just looking at the atomizer. So if anyone is interested in either of these products, you can get them at most other e-cig stores for $50, which is half the price of the same models at vaporcig.com

And I have used one of these products myself, the RN4081 (Vapor 2000) and it's barely worth $50 let alone $100.

A statement without evidence to support is a false statement. Please provide evidence to show that Vapor 1000 is a DSE901, and Vapor 2000 is a RN4081. Thank you

 

[ZambucaLu]

And I have used one of these products myself, the RN4081 (Vapor 2000) and it's barely worth $50 let alone $100.

Really?

The site says: Vapor 1000 Classic....which the classic has been known to be a penstyle.

And Vapor 2000 mini...which a mini is a 901 or RN4075 model.

Neither of these appear to be a RN4081 supermini.

I really hope you're not discrediting yourself here. Could sound like either you don't know what you're talking about....or you're lying

Lu

 

[mixxy]

It wasn't so much the fact that he knew some stuff about the company, what mainly made me suspicious was because of the way he defended the fact that the company hides the conditions of the warranty until after you've purchased the product. I don't understand how a consumer could justify a company lying to them (yes lying, omission is still lying) and then go one step further and even defend the company on this.

Well, he did also mention that the company was in the process of making some changes to their web site... so maybe they will manage to 'fix' all of the things that you object to.

You mentioned "What I'm not understanding is why there have been several people adding input (and some continue to add negatives over and over again) to this thread that haven't even used these products themselves?"
Since I'm the only person that had more then one post with negative comments, I guess that's directed at me. However, I don't need to have used this company to purchase an item for the company to effect me. This company immediately put me at odds against them when I came across them making claims that vaping was safe (despite no evidence that indicates it is) and that nicotine isn't bad for you (which is far from true). It's companies like this that are going to screw things up for all of us, so yeah, I think any vaper has a right to add their input about this company, including me.

No, you are not the only one. I should have said on this thread, and other threads about the Vapor 1000. I am not going to say that there couldn't be improvements made in the wording on their web site, or anything else. BUT... as far as the nicotine statement. I've heard several doctors in some of the e-cig videos used on tv news reports state that "nicotine is fairly harmless" but anyone with common sense would know that they are referring to it 'compared' to smoking cigarettes.

And I have used one of these products myself, the RN4081 (Vapor 2000) and it's barely worth $50 let alone $100.

I do hope that since you were so unhappy with the Vapor 2000 that you took advantage of their 30 day (no questions asked) return policy??

A company that is willing to omit important information and make false claims to increase sales would very likely be willing to post a fake review, and so certain things that I read immediatly set up red flags in my mind. I'm not making accusations, I'm just expressing my suspicions. It's not that I don't trust Legato, it's that I don't trust this company, and they've given me good reason not to.

I think you should call Marian directly and discuss your concerns with her. Those of us here that are 'simply customers' do not have answers to your questions... and obviously if we say anything in defense of the company.... then we are not trusted either.

 

[mixxy]

Hmmm... just another reason to be content with the Vaporcig warranty - and NOT trying to mix in generic parts! Gets WAY to complicated for me!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ied-your-spare-parts-atomizer-801-901-rn.html

 

[DCrist721]

Omg.8-o This product review thread has become a thread that a person who is making false statement is accusing a company making false claims.

A statement without evidence to support is a false statement. Please provide evidence to show that Vapor 1000 is a DSE901, and Vapor 2000 is a RN4081. Thank you

I'm not accusing the company of making false claims, I'm pointing out that they're making false claims. Accusing implies that this is something that can't be easily verified, but this can, as the issues are common knowledge here. There is no research yet that indicates whether e-cigs are safe or unsafe, yet they make the claim that they are safe andy healthy. And it is comon knowlege that nicotine is bad for you - no it doesn't cause cancer, but it can cause a lot of other problems, including a mild side effect of taking too much called death.

I meant to say that I thought the Vapor 1000 was a DSE801. However, I didn't say that it was one, I said I was pretty sure, so it's an opinion not a statement.

As far as the 2000, one of my RN4081 atomizers looks just like the one they show on their website. I'll take a picture and post it tomorrow

Really?

The site says: Vapor 1000 Classic....which the classic has been known to be a penstyle.

And Vapor 2000 mini...which a mini is a 901 or RN4075 model.

Neither of these appear to be a RN4081 supermini.

I really hope you're not discrediting yourself here. Could sound like either you don't know what you're talking about....or you're lying

Lu

As I said before, I meant to say that I thought the 1000 was an 801, not a 901, I mix them up a lot because in my mind I think, "bigger number, begger e-cig, like bullet caliber or something".

The Vapor 2000 mini is not a DSE901 or RN4075 you can easily see the difference if you compare pictures. The biggest one is that the 2000 has a male threaded end while the DSE901 and RN4075 have female threaded ends.

I've heard several doctors in some of the e-cig videos used on tv news reports state that "nicotine is fairly harmless" but anyone with common sense would know that they are referring to it 'compared' to smoking cigarettes.

Saying "nicotine is fairly harmless" is very different from "no, nicotine is not bad for you." Saying that it's "fairly harmless" gives you a wide range, and when you put it next to cigarettes, yeah, it doesn't look bad at all. But saying "no, it's not bad for you" is an absolute, there's no wiggle room in a sentence like that.

I think you should call Marian directly and discuss your concerns with her. Those of us here that are 'simply customers' do not have answers to your questions... and obviously if we say anything in defense of the company.... then we are not trusted either.

Answers to what quests? I never asked anything in this thread. And it's not that he defended the company, it's that he defended the company about lieing to him (and the rest of their customers). I don't understand how anyone could not find that suspicious