Vapor Station

[redgirl]

Yeah, I do notice strength and depth differences, which will effect the overall enjoyment. But I believe the flavorings and/or bases are the same. This is important to me because if I know what they are, I can find the same types of flavors I like across different vendors, based on quality and price. For instance, Halo Freedom does have the stronger cedar undertone and is slightly heavier. If Texas is similar but not as heavy with a lighter cedar undertone, win win. I wanted to like Halo Harley (Torque) but it was just too much. nhaler octane Signature was the same flavor (identical) but lighter. It just wasn't for me though, either one of them. I like nhaler octane Plain tobacco and Cigarillo the best. Plain tobacco liquid is slightly pink and Cigarillo is clear. I found that VS Tampa is clear and taste almost identical to Cigarillo. Tampa's flavor is just slightly better balanced. Now I'm wondering if I can find a counterpart for Plain Tobacco at Vapor Station (maybe it's the Tennessee or Texas). Now look at Halo Smooth 8 which can be compared to nhaler Spicebacco (just altered flavoring strength and depth) - could VS Phoenix be a better balanced version of those? But for $14 for 30 ml at VS for this kind of quality...Yeah.

I'm starting to think that the newer "American made" juice claims are that they just switched from China to India instead, and use USA stuff to mix here to finish the product. It's funny to me that I'm experiencing such similarities between nhaler, Halo and Vapor Station. Vapor Station's finished product is balanced very well and is layered nicely, and has a much more reasonable price.

I'm just saying that I believe these flavorings or bases from these vendors are the same and they adjust them slightly. So if Halo Smooth 8 was too strong or too heavy, then Phoenix from Vapor Station may just fit the bill (if indeed it is the counterpart to Halo Smooth 8 or nhaler octane Spicebacco). I'm just surmising here. Maybe nhaler and Halo start out with bases or flavorings from India. Who knows. Vapor Station liquids are from India. I personally think that Vapor Station does it very well, they blend the best, and great product, great price.

I don't know if there's a general base out there that a lot of vendors use, but looking at the ingredients of a couple like Vapor Station & Tasty Vapor, they both use acetylpyrazine. And a lot of the ingredients VS uses are listed under Dekang's ingredients, I believe. I've been wondering how to add these molecules to my own DIY liquids. The Perfumer's Apprentice has now listed this:

Perfumers Apprentice - Molecules used in Tobacco Blends

It's molecules used in tobacco flavorings and they have cedar/nutty/fruity, etc.

 

[Sojourner]

Interesting, but it makes sense. There would have to be a limited number of main suppliers (China, India, etc.) of base ingredients and individual companies blend to their liking. At least I know I can get the same flavors from several vendors. If I like a certain flavor but want it lighter or stronger, or less heavy; I can get it elsewhere. I guess the octane Cigarillo / VS Tampa is my preferred tobacco brand of sorts, and I can find that flavor in several locations. I believe Halo Freedom is along the same vein but heavier and stronger - there's a denseness to it. I really like how Vapor Station blends their flavors and they have very interesting offerings, like the Tiramisu, besides the tobacco flavors.