Vapor,Vapor...Why should I care!

[erazzz]

I'm one of those people who likes a lot of vapor. Not sure why, I think it is just the sensation of blowing the large clouds. For me, smoking real cigarettes was 50% nicotine addiction and 50% habit. When I got bored, I wanted to smoke. I liked being able to smoke in the car. A lot of it was just the habit of smoking itself, which is why ecigs worked so well for me because I could still have the habit of putting something up to my mouth, inhaling, and releasing "smoke" (vapor). Plus, I could get the nicotine too, which helped. I actually don't use much nicotine anymore (4-8mg) since I mostly just do it for the habit.

 

[DC2]

Let's get down to brass tacks then...

Why? Why not clouds?

Because those that want to take vaping away from us don't like clouds.
So should we bow down to them? Do what they want us to do?

I fear the cloud-blowers.

Not because they blow clouds, but because they frighten Joe Public and his little precious daughter.
Such is the world we live in? Is it? Really? Does it have to be?

What really needs to be fixed is not them, and it's not us.
It's the idea that something that someone doesn't like seeing (but harms no one) should be subject to restraint.

If you want a nanny, get one, but please don't ever vote for one.

 

[patkin]

^I've noticed! Well said Nikkita6... sounds just like Sis.

 

[DC2]

Love you guys in Alaska.

My mother moved there late in life to be with her kind.
The non-pretentious, live-life-to-the-fullest sort of rough-and-tumble folks.

I would like to add to this post by extolling on some of my adventures in Anchorage Alaska, including spam...

Mr. Whitekeys' Fly By Night Club - Welcome to the sleaziest bar in Spenard, Alaska!
Alaskan Chocolates, Berry Jellies, Souvenirs, Ulu Knives, Smoked Salmon, and Gifts
Alaska's Miners & Trappers Ball
Anchorage Fur Rendezvous Winter Festival
Surfing the Bore Tide | Alaska Public Media

Spam is the first link.


I posted the berry link because we went out picking berries one day.
We wound up with about 7 different kinds of edible berries.

Big ... freaking beards in Alaska? You're damn right!
But berries? In Alaska? Who knew?

I've seen things in Alaska I can never unsee.
Nor would I want to.

Where else can you shuck oysters and then go curling in the same night?

Even though I've been to Alaska a number of times, I know full well that I'm nothing but a cheechako.
But maybe some day I can be a sourdough.



EDIT: This post is a tribute to my mother, God Rest Her Soul
EDIT: And it is not meant to stereotype Alaskans, not that they care
EDIT:

 

[Korzik]

I don't like the harsh throat thump of high nic/pg juices. I like the thick smooth feel of a largish dense 'cloud' of vapor. My favorite analogs were always the smoothest 'creamiest' I could find when I wanted to treat myself so I do the same with my vape.

 

[doctadrea]

Oh, my friend its not just the males

So true. I think the women are even worse.
(I lived in Queens till I was 17, so I'm allowed to talk smack about NY women.)

 

[Nikkita6]

^I've noticed! Well said Nikkita6... sounds just like Sis.

Kinda hard to miss eh?? .. That sister sounds like good people. ;-)

 

[Nikkita6]

So true. I think the women are even worse.
(I lived in Queens till I was 17, so I'm allowed to talk smack about NY women.)

Lol, its how men get made. ;-) ... I was born in Queens, NY, lived there until 10, parents moved to Long Island ... Thank God!

 

[etherealink]

Umm... what? The post of mine that you quoted was in response to the OP saying that there's no reason to vape without nic. My post was saying that there IS a point to vaping for a lot of 0 nic vapers. You and I are in agreement

Johny- sorry about quoting on your post, was reading the thread in reverse after catching it in the middle and had just had enough of frankster

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
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About analogs vs ecigs :
http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[etherealink]

Let's get down to brass tacks then...

Why? Why not clouds?

Because those that want to take vaping away from us don't like clouds.
So should we bow down to them? Do what they want us to do?

I fear the cloud-blowers.

Not because they blow clouds, but because they frighten Joe Public and his little precious daughter.
Such is the world we live in? Is it? Really? Does it have to be?

What really needs to be fixed is not them, and it's not us.
It's the idea that something that someone doesn't like seeing (but harms no one) should be subject to restraint.

If you want a nanny, get one, but please don't ever vote for one.

I don't think it could ever have been/will be said better.

DC2 for Prez!!

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
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About analogs vs ecigs :
http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[otrpu]

I am not making a big deal about it...I am just interested in why people care.

I don't care. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[choochoogranny]

Oh my, seems no one wants to tell me exactly what throat hit is and the reason for wanting it. It also seems that most people here are in favor of chasing clouds. Can you tell me WHERE you do it and WHY you do it THERE?

We just had a vape meet here in Chattanooga in a ballroom......near 600 people attended. Set the fire alarm off twice. Could see the haze, fog, vapor hanging in the air. Definitely reminiscent of the "old days". Got pictures. Wonder if we can go back there. Wonder what ANTZ would do with them.....

 

[^Top-Shelf^]

After reading this thread I just couldn't help but post lol

Why do I own 2 Hookahs? Not because I'm addicted to shisha but because I enjoy the flavor and find it enjoyable when conversating "haven't used them since I bought a PV tho lol" but will when the occasion arises.
Why do I modify everything to get the most performance out of it I can? Because I enjoy the challenge and hobby of it, not because I need to go 160mph in a 1/4 mile or need to cast a fishing lure to the end of a lake but I feel better knowing I can.

I started vaping about 2 months ago to stop smoking, which I never liked doing to begin with but after my girlfriend moved in who smokes I picked up the habit. Gave me a reason to go outside every hour also lol. Now I'm trying to get her to make the switch plus it's just a dirty/smelly habit that cost to much.
Some people like me will still vape even after the fact that they kicked the habit/addiction purely because they enjoy to tinker, have a hobby, and like to relax to some music while vaping. So even if they get down to zero nicotine they will still probably vape because of these things. Remember idle hands are the devil's playground

 

[etherealink]

Oh my, seems no one wants to tell me exactly what throat hit is and the reason for wanting it. It also seems that most people here are in favor of chasing clouds. Can you tell me WHERE you do it and WHY you do it THERE?

We just had a vape meet here in Chattanooga in a ballroom......near 600 people attended. Set the fire alarm off twice. Could see the haze, fog, vapor hanging in the air. Definitely reminiscent of the "old days". Got pictures. Wonder if we can go back there. Wonder what ANTZ would do with them.....

Not sure about the throat hit, but I can tell you that when I take the pg too high (actually depends on the flavor) it gives me a burning feeling in my throat. Possibly the best explanation is the raw feeling from somewhat harsh cigarettes mentioned in an earlier post.

As for chasing clouds, I do it to an extent so I can only tell you what I get out of it. I do it for a couple of reasons; firstly, for testing a new coil's or batteries performance. I like to have a large amount of vapor in my lungs which means either I have to take larger, longer drags off of coils that produce vapor at a slower rate or use coils that make more vapor more quickly. As for the clouds in this situation, stealth vaping is almost impossible in the case of the amount of vapor in this case so the vapor has to get exhaled and it doesn't get absorbed by your lungs which equals clouds. By the way, try asking a cloud chaser to take the same hit off his set up and stealth vape it... let's just say cheech and chong lol.

Also, the cloud chasing let's me get a better feel for the smell of my juice since I mainly diy. Part of helping me to quit I'd getting the smell out and not smelling it again, I try not to let it bother me, I just don't stay around smokers long and even ask the mechanics not to smoke in the truck.

I share a truck (2012 mack truck hauling coal) with a smoker, so the first few big clouds of the shift are my kind of fabreeze lol but, even when I was smoking and sharing my truck with another smoker my last 10 miles ( no matter the weather) was ran with the window at least half way down... I still do that to this day and only ask that he empty his ashtray (it's now a fineable offence to toss out a cigarette .... in Illinois and yes I've mentioned vaping to him slowly).

The rest of my cloud chasing is pretty much just bragging to other vaping friends.


As to where I do it, I drive a semi all night by myself for 70+ hrs a week and my wife vapes so short of public places where you can't smoke I can pretty much everywhere. I figure that if 3/4 of our mechanic staff can smoke like freight trains then I can blow big clouds and make them jealous lol.
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I'm actually curious as to why the smoke alarms were set off so I'll have to research that some more.

Can only speak for myself but I hope that helps some.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
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About analogs vs ecigs :
http://www.janty.com/en/news/item/vapor-test-results-by-keca

 

[FRANKSTER]

OK, if we want to start playing with the semantics of what you are saying and doing I will clear up the reality of the situation for you.

Pardon the entire issue that you are a self-centered and repugnant ..., but you are not simply voicing your opinion and asking for the opinions of others, you are subjecting others to your opinions on everything (see your post regarding sweetener being as harmful as sugar to a diabetic) which makes your opinion not only useless but more importantly dangerous as it can get someone killed if they actually trust you.

Since there is no ban option and even though the government isn't a fan of supporting the entire constitution, I am... therefore, simply going to ignore you. I hope that your ignorance is shorter than the rest of your time on earth - Mani padme hung.

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
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About analogs vs ecigs :
Vapor Test Results by Korea Electronic Cigarette Association

You make absolutely no sense. I was not being sarcastic about the sugar. do some research and you will find out that what I said is true. You like many others on the internet have found a portal where cowards can talk smack. Believe me, I can be trusted. I give my opinion whether people agree with it or not. I am not afraid to get attacked like so many other people on here. As far as ignoring me, you should have done that as soon as you read the op,

I do not care about people chasing more vapor and I do not care about people vaping zero nic, That is their business. I just think it is ridiculous to do so. No-one should have a problem with someone else giving their opinion. If you do not like the opinion or the op attack that and not the poster. Be a man.

Also, I would really like that this thread will not be locked because people are talking smack to me personally. I really would not appreciate another message telling me so. If people cannot just answer the question in the op they should just move on.

 

[choochoogranny]

It does help and thank you much, Etherealink.

Back in the "old days" when there was no LAW on smoking anywhere at any time, I do remember NOT smoking while shopping in any stores (my hands were busy grabbing stuff anyway), churches, schools (they made their own rules). Ladies and gentlemen did not smoke while walking. There was an informal etiquette about where and when and how to smoke. You could smoke in the doctor's waiting room but not in the examining room......but my oldest child's first pediatrician whipped out a cig while discussing her tonsils needing to be removed! Blowing smoke in someone's face would get you decked.

I guess I'm just trying to understand what new etiquette surrounds this fabulous vaping thing. I do vape like a smokestack at home and in my vehicle. It's always fun to go to a vape meet to enjoy the fellowship of other vapers, see new setups, and talking to the brand new vapers, by golly, are my "upper" for the following week!

I loved making and chasing bubbles as a child, but I had to do it outside and away from the adults 'cause I really got loud and rambunctious with all my playmates as we tried to make as many bubbles as we could! Kids can be annoying at times having had 3 of my own.......living with me......all the time.......

 

[Jay-dub]

It may also be that these annoying "cloud chasers" help push techniques and technology that drive innovation. If that's the case, it's the cloud chasers that helped get vaping to a point that made it accessible to many of us as a viable alternative to smoking.

 

[Ahoy]

For a lot of people it is more or less a fulfilling feeling when you blow out a larger cloud. I have a few builds that give me large clouds and its nice every once in a while to change things up, but in the end its always about flavor and that TH. If I can't feel the vape then it doesn't give me that 'full' feeling when vaping. I know very very very few people that HATE blowing huge clouds. It's just a different feeling. Like I said, it's not something I enjoy 100% of the time, but every once in a while I love to get good vapor production.

My ideal vape is as follows:

Flavor>TH>Vapor

And to respond to a post the OP did stating "if you do not need the nic, you shouldn't be vaping" that is a pretty iffy thing to say. There is no set in stone rules to vaping. I know quite a few people who smoked a hookah once a week or so and just like the flavors and the vapor. To some its just a hobby. And there are many vapers who have just weened themself off of nicotine over time and still vape for the hobby aspect of it. In my eyes they are supporting the community with purchasing vaping gear/liquids so who am I to tell them that it isn't for them? to each their own.

edit- I'm not trying to come off rude, sorry if it sounded like that in my post. Just stating my opinion.

 

[Dj Xy]

People get into vaping for different reasons, what makes sense to you might not make sense to someone else. For some its about the flavor, some the novelty of producing huge clouds, some want nic, for some its a hobby, some its to save money, some its the health aspect etc. Not every vaper has the same reasons.
You say you don't care about people "chasing clouds" and vaping zero nic, but apparently you do or you never would have started this thread.

 

[FearTX]

I started vaping as a means to end my tobacco dependence. I did not start this silly hobby to save money. Initially I cared about throat hit/craving reduction, then I cared about flavor/throat hit/craving reduction. Then I cared about flavor/pleasant vapor texture/craving reduction. Now that is really all I care about. I reduced from 36mg/24mg to 12mg and 6mg depending on what topper/PV I am using. I honestly do not care why other people are doing what they are doing. Hope you are enjoying it

I build my own PCs and play video games with them. Yeah I am that almost 50 year old dude that still has not grown up. I build ridiculous overkill machines. I run high end enthusiast CPUs with max memory on enthusiast level MoBos. Currently running quad SLI on my home machine with a dedicated PhysX board. Overkill? Yes! What does it bench mark at? Dunno I never bench mark. What can I overclock it at? A LOT, I dunno I do not overclock because at the level I build for what I use it for you cannot tell the difference, nothing stresses my machine running at stock settings. Will I upgrade? Yes, soon as they release something I want. Should you care about this? Probably not.

There are people that build machines like mine but do not game with them, they do not run demanding software on them, matter of fact they do not need the processing power. They browse the internet with these monsters and post on enthusiast forums. They overclock and benchmark them and post screen shots of numbers. Seems like a waste to me but heh, more power to them.

Takes all kinds, it's their money, time and life.

The point is, who really cares?