Vaporizer explodes in mans pocket outside of bar. Discussion.

[JohanB]

We hear these kinds of stories and see these videos every now and then, it makes me feel uneasy about having a mod with 3x 18650 batteries in it, it's like a loaded handgrenade if this were to happen to mine.

I only buy quality things (that's what im told), authentic sony batteries, only use wismec mods, the RX 2/3 at the moment.

Is this something to worry about? How can we prevent this from happening to us?

There's a guide by Mooch on selecting batteries to vape with: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/attachments/image-jpeg.612137/

But even if we follow these guides, is it still safe or can this happen to any of us?

 

[Joergl100]

Double post...: e-cigarette explosion in France

 

[Izan]

We hear these kinds of stories and see these videos every now and then, it makes me feel uneasy about having a mod with 3x 18650 batteries in it, it's like a loaded handgrenade if this were to happen to mine.

I only buy quality things (that's what im told), authentic sony batteries, only use wismec mods, the RX 2/3 at the moment.

Is this something to worry about? How can we prevent this from happening to us?

Battery safety 101:
Use a battery case to transport loose batteries.

Darwin tried...the bloke in the video got away...this time.

cheers

 

[JohanB]

Double post...: e-cigarette explosion in France

Yeah, just found it. Sorry. So basicly it wasn't a mod issue, he was carrying a loose battery along with some coins in the same pocket.

 

[samwest]

Surprising how fast one can shuck a pair of jeans.

 

[sofarsogood]

Take all the stories about vaping injury accidents and put them on a list. Then remove all the stories involving loose batteries with unprotected terminals or mech mods. Now the list is empty. If somebody offered you a phone or hand drill with no battery protection you would say they are wreckless and irresponsible. How is vaping an exception?

 

[Vinnybagodoughnuts]

This would have been a much more appropriate song for that video.

 

[Lessifer]

Take all the stories about vaping injury accidents and put them on a list. Then remove all the stories involving loose batteries with unprotected terminals or mech mods. Now the list is empty. If somebody offered you a phone or hand drill with no battery protection you would say they are wreckless and irresponsible. How is vaping an exception?

That's not quite true. There have been a number of incidents involving charging regulated egos/built in battery mods, and a few with regulated mods that were dropped. I'm not saying any of it is a major concern, but let's not let the hyperbole get away from us.

 

[sofarsogood]

That's not quite true. There have been a number of incidents involving charging regulated egos/built in battery mods, and a few with regulated mods that were dropped. I'm not saying any of it is a major concern, but let's not let the hyperbole get away from us.

Charging accidents aren't on the list. If you drop the device it's not in your pocket or near your face. The incidents that matter involve injury.

 

[Zulu_Xray]

Well, anything with a battery could possibly explode, it's just the nature of batteries. We all carry cell phones around in our pockets everyday and don't think about those exploding (except if you are a Note 7 owner...lol). Just practice common sense when dealing with batteries and you should be fine.

 

[Lessifer]

Charging accidents aren't on the list. If you drop the device it's not in your pocket or near your face. The incidents that matter involve injury.

If you want to select your sample to give the results you want, I suppose that's okay. You wouldn't be the first to do it. Just pointing out that there is a risk of injury with any battery. I don't agree with your crusade against mechs. I prefer to show people how to use all of their gear safely.

 

[sofarsogood]

If you want to select your sample to give the results you want, I suppose that's okay. You wouldn't be the first to do it. Just pointing out that there is a risk of injury with any battery. I don't agree with your crusade against mechs. I prefer to show people how to use all of their gear safely.

I wouldn't support legal restrictions on mechs. (I wouldnt' object to the consumer product safety commission providing guidance if it was accurate and useful. It's irresponsible that they haven't done that already.) I almost got involved in mechs and backed away after watching a youbube video of a deliberately vented battery. My view is Li batteries should only be used in commercial products where they are properly protected. As far as I'm aware mech mods are the only product offered to consumers that don't do that. Use them if you must by why promote them?

 

[Myrany]

Use them if you must by why promote them?

Honestly I suggest anyone have one mech in their vapocalypse stash AND KNOW HOW TO USE IT CORRECTLY. IMO mechs and a rebuildable are the best insurance a vaper can have against to possibility that all the decent gear will be off the market in 2 years. So that is why I promote mechs.

People are of course free to to take my advice on the subject or not.

 

[JohanB]

Mechanical mods are mods like the Wismec 2/3 etc, the ones you put batteries in yourself, right?
Is there a guide to battery handling anywhere? Sure, i guess common sense doesn't really need a guide but i might be unaware of something that seems so certain to others.

I'm quite careful with my stuff and i dont enjoy handling the batteries but not until now do i feel uncomfortable, i would never go back to mods that you can't put your own batteries in since they mostly run out of power after just an hour of vaping. That's why i bought one that can take 3 strong batteries in, they last me for about a day. I only use sony vtc4 18650's since they are considered "safest" from malfunction and explosions. My first mod was a kangertech subvod kit but honestly, it was horrible, low battery life and the battery just got worse and worse each time i charged it ending up having to charge it 24/7 and then switching to a RX2/3 + 6 batteries with a SMOK TFV8 @ 85watts and i've never gotten richer taste/consistant clouds.

 

[DC2]

Maybe we should all agree that the promotion of mech mods should always be accompanied by essential information on how to use them safely. I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with that, but you know how these things go.

People that learned this stuff a long time ago, and live it daily, think everyone should know it.
Some even claim it's taught in every high school everywhere, which is complete crap.

I would challenge all those folks out there that think this is common knowledge...
Those that claim those who don't know or understand should be declared Darwin award winners...

I've got a ton of questions for you on many subjects. You won't be able to answer the vast majority of them. Are you stupid? Are you a Darwin candidate? Do you know what the Hadron Collider is? Do you know what the Higgs boson is? Do you even know what res ipsa loquitur means? Do you understand the the theories of John Locke? Do you know what a lacto-ovo-vegetarian is?

Sometimes the least educated are the most unforgiving.
I guess you gotta try and look smart whenever you get a chance.

Well, I'm tired of it.

 

[Lessifer]

I wouldn't support legal restrictions on mechs. (I wouldnt' object to the consumer product safety commission providing guidance if it was accurate and useful. It's irresponsible that they haven't done that already.) I almost got involved in mechs and backed away after watching a youbube video of a deliberately vented battery. My view is Li batteries should only be used in commercial products where they are properly protected. As far as I'm aware mech mods are the only product offered to consumers that don't do that. Use them if you must by why promote them?

There are quite a few flashlights that work almost exactly like mech mods do, and many of them run on the same batteries. I'm not saying caution doesn't apply to mechs, I'm saying that regulated does not equal safe. Caution applies to any product with a battery.

Maybe we should all agree that the promotion of mech mods should always be accompanied by essential information on how to use them safely. I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with that, but you know how these things go.

People that learned this stuff a long time ago, and live it daily, think everyone should know it.
Some even claim it's taught in every high school everywhere, which is complete crap.

I would challenge all those folks out there that think this is common knowledge...
Those that claim those who don't know or understand should be declared Darwin award winners...

I've got a ton of questions for you on many subjects. You won't be able to answer the vast majority of them. Are you stupid? Are you a Darwin candidate? Do you know what the Hadron Collider is? Do you know what the Higgs boson is? Do you even know what res ipsa loquitur means? Do you understand the the theories of John Locke? Do you know what a lacto-ovo-vegetarian is?

Sometimes the least educated are the most unforgiving.
I guess you gotta try and look smart whenever you get a chance.

Well, I'm tired of it.

I agree that education is key, and I didn't learn anything about battery safety in high school. I knew nothing of it until I started vaping, aside from not keeping loose batteries in a place where they could contact metal, I did know that though I'm not sure where I learned it.

 

[sofarsogood]

Honestly I suggest anyone have one mech in their vapocalypse stash AND KNOW HOW TO USE IT CORRECTLY. IMO mechs and a rebuildable are the best insurance a vaper can have against to possibility that all the decent gear will be off the market in 2 years. So that is why I promote mechs.

People are of course free to to take my advice on the subject or not.

The reason I was investigating mechs was for stockpiling. When I decided I wasn't going there it presented a problem, if not mechs then what? Here is my solution. My two preferred mods are Picos and VTC/VTwo's. I guesstimate either of those ought to last 2 years of continuous service so 5 mods for my 10 year time frame. But I might be wrong about their durability so I have a redundant supply of 5 more mods of a different make. That adds up to 5 Picos and 5 VTwo's. I also have redundant supplies of nic and atomizers so that if everything works as predicted and nic can last indefinitely may be I'm good for more than 10 years. All that cost only $650 and is strictly separate from everything I'm currently using (it's hard to leave new toys new in the box). 10-20 years is enough for me. There's no such thing as forever.

 

[puffon]

There's no such thing as forever.

Depends on how old you are.

 

[sofarsogood]

Depends on how old you are.

When I was a kid there were only two kinds of people, kids and old people, and nobody was getting older except for me. Now I see everybody is getting older--except for me.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

(it's hard to leave new toys new in the box).

New toys shouldn't stay new. They all should be used at least once or twice, once in a while, to make sure they work right.