VaporMoon & The Saber Touch Official Thread!

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for Sir Lawrence: is it possible to email an order with all the Google Checkout information? i can't complete a Google Checkout because i don't have a phone, and it demands a phone number.

also, i want to know how problematic the switch may be with dry hands. i wash my hands often, and my hands are typically dry, and i don't really like the idea of licking my fingers to touch the switch whenever i use it. i am thinking of ordering the 3.7V/18650 Brushed Aluminum with Polished Smooth Brass End Caps (No Threads).

also, is there any info on how they hold up in freezing weather with the associated condensation when going from cold to warm environments? is the device protected from lint/dirt in coat pockets? would it survive being dropped into snow or mud or a puddle? i am a little wary of electronics in the conditions i live and work in.
 

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With Very Dry Hands, there is nothing for the sensor to pick up. Some people just use moisturizer on there hands. And Everyone uses metal drip tips with no problem. And actually, when you use a metal drip tip, you are making a connection with you mouth instead of touching an end cap, so it's much better with dry hands. And no, it's not waterproof! And as far as being good in your pocket, that's one of the reasons I came up with the Saber... it will not activate in you pocket, unless it's filled with like a bunch of metal pens! I don't think they've come up with a waterproof mod yet! Email me with questions about how to order other ways.
 
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ok, thank you Sir Lawrence. i chose to ask these questions about your device because it seems to have the most suitable general design for a "Special Forces Vaporizer" :) something that could be sealed and protected from the elements, a device that could take some hard knocks, and be cleaned easily, and keep on ticking. something that can be easily stripped down and cleaned, and made in perfect order again. possibly the ST is not engineered to be utilized in harsh environmental conditions at this time, but possibly that is something you might want to consider for a future design. not everyone is sitting in a comfy office vaping. some people are doing construction work, digging ditches, working in the rain and mud, in freezing snow, etc. and they need a device also. but yours is the only one i have seen that can be easily wiped down and made clean regardless of where it might be laid or where it might fall.

if anyone has a suggestion for such a device that i may not know about, i would be interested. but i am highly biased toward 18650 batteries (for their long life) with 510LR atomizers.
 

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You are right about that! Let me tell you... you guys in the service Love the Saber! Maybe about 300-400 of you fine people are holding Saber Touch Mods in your pockets... and I have not heard on complaint from them, so far. The great thing about the Saber is that you can count on it Not firing off in your pocket... That's a big plus for people doing very hard work outside.
 

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occupations that could use a type of "Special Forces Vaporizer" that is sealed and easily wiped and cleaned:

farmers+ranchers+miners+hunters+cavers (anyone working in mud, snow, and rain), mechanics+roughnecks (anyone working around solvents+oils), fishermen+seamen (anyone around corrosive sea-water/air), those doing construction+plumbing+and most other physical labor occupations and or those in dusty conditions such as drywallers+concrete mixers, etc. there's millions of people working in dirty, wet, dusty, freezing, corrosive conditions that would need such a vaporizer, and yours seems to have the best design for such occupations :)
 

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occupations that could use a type of "Special Forces Vaporizer" that is sealed and easily wiped and cleaned:

farmers+ranchers+miners+hunters+cavers (anyone working in mud, snow, and rain), mechanics+roughnecks (anyone working around solvents+oils), fishermen+seamen (anyone around corrosive sea-water/air), those doing construction+plumbing+and most other physical labor occupations and or those in dusty conditions such as drywallers+concrete mixers, etc. there's millions of people working in dirty, wet, dusty, freezing, corrosive conditions that would need such a vaporizer, and yours seems to have the best design for such occupations :)
 

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the ST design is also one of the only (if not THE only) mods that can be set down on a surface without falling over and rolling away somewhere, which is very important in most labor jobs. it is a constant problem for me. a possible future consideration would be an end-cap with a hex-shape, so the mod could be laid down on its side without rolling away. but at least, the ST can stand on an end-cap.
 

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the ST design is also one of the only (if not THE only) mods that can be set down on a surface without falling over and rolling away somewhere, which is very important in most labor jobs. it is a constant problem for me. a possible future consideration would be an end-cap with a hex-shape, so the mod could be laid down on its side without rolling away. but at least, the ST can stand on an end-cap. for example, imagine you are working on a car, and you want to set your mod down - or if you are driving a car and want to set it on the dashboard - almost any place you set it, it will roll away. or if you are working on a roof. etc. it is a real-world problem :) in fact, i damaged my last one in a public restroom, because the sink had no flat surfaces, and the paper-towel dispenser was the only semi-flat surface, but it was slanted downward, and i tried to stick my mod on it, and it later rolled off and crashed into the cement floor, inflicting very bad damage.
 
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i have been studying the ST images. from what i read and see, i would guess the areas that make the unit not air/water proof/resistant would be:

1. the area between the circumference of the switch, and the pipe.
2. the 2 vent-holes, which are beveled, from what i read ...

if that is true, would the ST be pretty much water/air tight if i filled these areas with Silicone? i do have real concerns about water (from rain/snow) and condensation (moving from freezing to warm humid areas). i guess the vent holes are there in case of a battery explosion or something (which i am not concerned about), but i figure if that happens, a little piece of Silicone would get blown out of a beveled hole.

also, would it be impossible to get a top-cap (near the atomizer) that is like a hexagon nut? it would be invaluable to me to have a 18650 mod that doesn't roll on a dashboard or other surfaces :) i purchased one for my home where i needed a 1/2in water pipe end-cap.

and correct me if this is wrong, but i think you say that dry hands are OK if you use a Metal Drip Tip. that would be great. hands aren't moist in freezing temperatures, which we have 1/2 the year near the Arctic Circle.

thanks ... i feel a little guilty for your extreme customer service. and no, i don't know anyone with a cartomizer for a drip-tip cap. i was thinking i might carve a pencil eraser to make a plug :) hehe.
 

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First... you DO NOT want to cover up the vent holes. If you batteries ever fail, it would turn into a pipe bomb. I don't think the silicone would blow out the way you would want it. Second, around the threads you could never seal water tight... you would never be able to open it. Around "the button" IS totally sealed. The inside with the electrical parts are potted with2 types of epoxy, so that moisture could never effect them. As far as a hexagon nut... I've looked at them. The problem is, when you close the battery end, it still may not match up. My tooling machines are pretty accurate, but it also depends on the length of the batteries you put into it. That's why I've never used them. But your ideas are really good, and I try to make the Saber Touch better all the time. Thanks.
 
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