VaporNine Turbo Cartomizers Will Blow You AWAY!

[pm2006]

I checked the boxes that I just received and they didn't have the white stripe. So far the ones I'm using are doing great. I bought them because nothing tasted good on my passthru . . . .until the Turbo.

 

[tiraggi]

I have been using these turbo's (with the white stripe) for about two weeks now. Have refilled about a dozen times with no burnt taste at all. Maybe luck - I don't know. I just ordered more end of last week so I'll see what happens. I hope it was just a bad batch that you received. I am sure Ben will help to make it right.

 

[johnnybass]

Same thing with the V4L carts they lowered the resistance and packed in to much filler , It won't wick and ,it runs so hot it is going to burn them up. they should have maybe hit a happy medium , The old one's work better , Look at that cart picture, ( THAT IS FREAKIN SCARY)

 

[Lina]

Well I will drop this issue after this post.. unless Ben does contact me again and offers a solution or something... but I know some people are following this thread and would like to know the results. I just have to say I am very disappointed in VaporNine and Ben. While he did PM me here finally he now just stopped responding to me. No harsh words or anything were exchanged.

He asked the voltage I was using... said he ripped apart some carts (about 10) and there was some discoloration and blackening and then held a lighter to it and it did not catch fire really.. just shrivels up - he said its "cloth or something." He asked if I was keeping my carts moist and if I was accidentally using a new cart with no juice...? hmmm - I was kind of annoyed with that ... but I told him I do not open all my carts when I get them.. I open and fill them as I need them so no I do not have empty carts mixed in with the carts I am vaping.

He asked me to tell him these things and now no reply again since Tuesday afternoon. So you know I guess that's that! I just have to call it like I see it - if you have good things to say and you are going to place an order then you will get a response from Ben. If not... well ...yeah! AND FYI... I did try talking to him before I posted anything here.. and I tried a few times - but he also said he did not get the emails -- I did resend though! Maybe he is also having trouble getting the PMs up here... ?

 

[miss MiA]

Here are the photos I took... and the that center wrap is still very wet ... so this is very scary... I did not realize it was so wet .. I took this apart and placed it in a baggie until I could take photos... and told Ben I would send him this.

I am not trying to cause and mass hysteria or anything but I do not understand this.. and Ben always was good at responding to me UNTIL I had trouble and now he is not replying at all. - except one time when I had problems with 3 carts .. but it took me 3 emails to get a reply... then I emailed him about the scorching days ago and nothing.

I am sad because I had high hopes and really loved these!

On the bright-er side as far as any implications of the burning (beyond ruination of that carto, which is frustrating): If yours are like a lot of others including from the recent white-stripe batch, washing those wick swatches might remove all or most of the dark stuff that makes things look SO bad, which would mean it was burnt/carmelized juice rather than fabric. (That buildup occurs regularly in atties too.)

Any actual holes would remain of course, but as some of our techy members observed upon release of the Turbos/higher resistance kind, for a result to be that there are 'just' some holes or missing pieces confined to the wick is still a greatly improved one over standard and some other types of KR8 cartos. Not perfection but deemed a big step forward, so should still be with this latest batch, from that 'safety' perspective only. And, once the burnt taste-turn is taken it would be hard to miss, so things probably won't get further even if they could (the materials themselves may assist in containment).

Again tho, that's only meant to comment on the aspect of possible safety concerns, not on whether this is happening more often with soft-cap or recent batches than prior ones; or whether the sudden/early death rate is acceptable, etc. (And it's also not meant as any kind of statement that at this level of burn/scorch, it's definitely safe; I wouldn't know. That's currently something each person can only hypothesize about and decide what they're comfortable with, but even within vaping itself we have the concept of {presumed} 'harm reduction.') Most of this post is just undirected & general btw!

Anyway. I have also used some of the first glued-on hard cap ones (prefills) and had the early, sudden burnt taste happen occasionally with those too. (The vape itself on those, and consistency of it, does seem perhaps a little diff to me tho.) Haven't done much comparison autopsying/yet. However, upon request several weeks ago, Scottbee said he'd compare and report after he'd used what were then the new soft caps for awhile. He's got lots of other stuff on his plate around now tho and I'm not sure if or when he might proceed.

So whether orig hard cap or recent self-filled blanks or prefills (btw, as has been mentioned, it's best to top off even the prefills before first use!), I've sometimes experienced the sudden turn. Since we regularly deal with QC issues and the occasional duds and poor performers with much of our vaping gear, still haven't really decided if I think the rate here is overall much higher than in other areas we currently have no choice but to accept. And the vape sure does beat standard cartos. It may even out well enough all in all, tho improvements are surely possible and would be great to see.

Filling in advance and letting sit a long time, especially before initial run, seems to help a lot; maybe breaks in the filler so juice distributes more evenly. And I do better when I focus most filling of these on the batt end, since that best distributes the liquid and moistens the center area/wick as it cascades over. Also helps avoid the dry pockets that can occur with condom filling from mouth end; I never do it that way anymore. Initially, I take cap off; condom fill from batt end with a nub-less condom; a good spin and more fill; then regularly top off a little from both ends, or alternate ends without too much time in between. (Sometimes I just 'tailpipe' -- leave cap off -- which somehow encourages me to tend to things better. Occasional juice pops yes, but not often. Maybe this also helps in cases of ones that have a filler level so high that little vapor 'headspace' is left.) Batt end top offs I do by dripping in, but a few times a day I'll do the full batt end condom fill treatment, watching with cap off.

A full fill doesn't necessarily last me as long as a regular KR8 fill used to, but maybe for 'good' reason since juice vaporizes more completely in the higher resistance ones. I vape a lot so I'm topping/filling at least every couple hours when I have two PVs going, more if using a single PV. And it's still much more convenient than atties! (Lest one is using a juice-feed mod... which I also do!) Yeah, just old tired info there for most lol, but never know when it might be new to at least someone reading.

Still haven't given up on hitting the exact right routine to extend their life more. Keep thinking syringing could play a part, tho as of yet it hasn't fared better for me. Vaping a couple drops of high-proof vodka through perked one back up, so will check out whether it's of any use in keeping stuffiness/juice distribution/whatever issues at bay. Was also just posted on another thread that overfilling can cause considerable stuffiness or performance hindrance. Also plan to start doing more advance filling, initially even days when that works out. In any event, I'm still amazed (and inspired ) by how long some seem to be making it on the same cartos.

Of course all of these things apply to the higher resistance cartos available from any vendor atm, isn't limited to the Turbos from what I've seen & heard.

 

[mick37]

same thing here - bough some Turbo from Vapornine and absolutely loved them - white boxes, all black - so, I've ordered 50 more and got them Friday - new ones with white strip - fully filled around 25 drops they SMELL burned only after half our use on KR808 ...
pity ... I wanted to order more ...