Variable Voltage - Differences between tube and battery only models

[Rader2146]

Short on time so I'll get right to the point....

eGo's, and eGo types, mini's, and just about every PV without a removable battery uses a Li-polymer cell. Not the same as your 14xxx, 18xxx, or any other cylindrical replaceable battery.

Li-polymer has more potential energy than your typical replaceable battery; ie: bigger bang.

Vent holes become thrust nozzles in the event of catastrophic failure. But a succesful flight is better than the alternative. "Lesser of two evils.". Without proper venting, USB ports become shrapnel.

I would like to see something that says Li-polymer is "less likely" to violently fail. I won't believe that for a second without reasonable info stating otherwise. Ask the RC hobbyists, I'm quite sure they would agree.

 

[NancyR]

My sincere apologies if my questions are stirring the pot but I promise I asked because I'm really that confused. I greatly appreciate the patient, beginning-level replies. I'm beginning to strongly suspect that things won't entirely get through my thick-headedness without me physically trying them.

The price difference between the disposables and tube models still rather baffles me. However, I ordered 3 Twists today. The advertised voltage levels for the KGOs make me a bit nervous about battery safety so I'll wait to try those once they have been out for awhile.

I'm on the waiting list for a VARIO but haven't completely decided between that and the Provari although I'm leaning quite heavily to the VARIO. I'm a huge admirer of great design and build quality but the speed with which the technology seems to be changing leaves me very focused on potential obsolesce where value is concerned.

I was mainly interested in trying different things to see what works best for me but after the explanations I very much see a place in my life for my current Green Smoke cig-alikes, variable voltage disposables and the tube-types.

I'll use the cig-alikes when out and about. I live in a very conservative community and don't wish to potentially offend anyone by carrying anything that resembles drug paraphernalia. Also, having a cigarette between my fingers is a habit associated with smoking. I've been using that habit as a helpful security blankie for quitting. I'll keep one in my pocket or purse until I'm sure I don't need that crutch any more.

I'll use a tube-type variable at my desk and the the variable disposables at home elsewhere. It surely isn't hard to see how vaping can quickly turn into an expensive hobby.

I am not trying to down the VARIO , as they may wind up being great. But keep in mind where you are looking at over all value, this is a first run on these, so there will likely be bugs where others have been around longer and already have a proven track record.

 

[Strigoi]

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Disregarding the admittedly long tank, is the Provari with extension cap REALLY that big?

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Ego Twist vs Provari

IMO it's not the size of the Provari, it's the weight. Mine is over 6.1oz (if I remember correctly) with an 18490 in it. That is seriously heavy when comparing it to my E-Power which is similar to an Ego. I can keep the E-Power in my pocket and not even notice it while I don't go a minute without knowing the Provari is there.

For those of you that aren't into ounces, 8oz is half a pound. The Provari is one heavy device. It even makes my Silver Bullet feel light.

 

[peraspera]

this is a first run on these, so there will likely be bugs where others have been around longer and already have a proven track record.

NancyFL, you make a good point and Tim makes it very clear on his site that this is a new product. I'm generally not an early adopter of electronic goodies but, in this case, I'm leaning strongly in that direction. Tim at Vapor Beast is offering a feature rich product that I find appealing at a reasonable price. He will also be offering an extended warranty of some kind.

Vapor products have gotten me off cigarettes so I figure that taking a chance on a new item with good potential is a way to give back to the community, albeit, in a very small way. Also, I find Tim to be a nice guy of the first order which makes doing business with him a pleasure.

 

[mrelwood]

Disregarding the admittedly long tank, is the Provari with extension cap REALLY that big?

When a 650mAh Twist with a Stardust is already pushing it, yes it is. I don't think I'll ever get a tank wider than the eGo.

 

[Baditude]

When a 650mAh Twist with a Stardust is already pushing it, yes it is. I don't think I'll ever get a tank wider than the eGo.

Wow, whatever works for you.
Vape on, my friend.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Along with some great points that Baditude and others raised I find the big diff between the smaller sized "disposable" PVs (Kgo, Twist, eGo) is that they only come in 650, 900 and 1000 mah...not very much power if you're vaping at high voltage. 100 mah= 1 hr normal vaping before recharge. The Provari can handle a 3100 mah batt which means you can vape at high voltage on dual coils and not worry about the batt draining quickly. I owned a Provari but found I had no real use for voltage higher than 3.7. Also own a Kgo 1100 and a Don Tube Mod with 2200 and 2400 mah batts. Because the vape stays strong in my Don to the very end it is my main vape/ go to device. But the smaller Kgo and Kgo VV also get used when I'm out and about or the Kgo VV if I feel I need a strong hit. If you don't mind the size of the Provari or Provari Mini I would strongly suggest it to those that need a VV PV.
Good Luck.