Various excuses NOT to vape and keep with analog.

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UncHellMatt

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(TL;DR Don't expect these to be exactly like smokes. They're not. But in short order you find them to be BETTER.)

I've had a number of people I know who still smoke and were curious about my vape setup talk to me about it, and other people who don't smoke but have been encouraging loved ones who do to give it a try and do the same. Here's a few of the questions and things holding people back, and responses which, I completely admit, are my own opinion and what I encountered. I'm not expert on this stuff, far from it. I just wanted to offer a read to any other newbies, maybe people who came here for the first time and haven't posted yet, and are giving this some thought.

"They don't FEEL like cigarettes."

Reply: Nope. They don't. Even the slim, cig shaped ones like the type I started off with (Halo G6) aren't exactly like cigarettes, but they're very close. When I smoked analog, I tended to hold the cig between my left hand index and middle finger, but the manual button didn't make that easy. I opted for one of the batteries that fires on mouth draw, and that started me off. There are a lot of mannerisms and habits associated with analog that took me some getting over as well, such as "flicking", which I did almost compulsively with analogs. However, it only took me perhaps 3 days to completely get over that urge.

"I still have a nic-fit feeling after vaping."

If you smoked a pack a day as I did, it might be tempting to get the lower level nicotine, like 12MG, determined to cut the nic habit. DON'T (IMO). Go with higher, say 24MG, at least a small bottle of it, until vaping becomes your norm. The particulates inhaled while smoking are smaller and enter the lungs and transmits nicotine to your blood and body faster than vaping. You may need to take a draw on your vape slowly, let it sit, then take another several times before you feel that nic-fit sensation go away. Remember, your body is used to a certain level of nicotine. Don't or at least try not to reduce your chances of success. Give yourself a fighting chance, and start off with higher levels of nicotine then go down to 18MG or 12MG, once vaping becomes your "normal". Nicotine leaves your body after only a week, but the emotional addiction lasts a LOT longer. It can take two weeks to replace or remove a habitual action, so take that into account.

"The taste just isn't the same."

Reply: There are some really good tobacco flavors out there to try. The one I started out with had a sweet tobacco taste with a nutty undertone, called Tribeca on the Halo site. Compared to newer juices I tried, it was a very mild flavor, but after only an hour I found I preferred it to the taste of analog. Oh, and I learned quick it's not a bad idea, if you start off with the slimmer e-cigs that come with a small cartomizer, to pick up the longer ones. Ditto battery. For the first week, I would keep this rotation of like 6 of the small cartos so that once I began to notice one tasted "flat", I could replace it and add some drops to the one getting spent. That started to get real tired real quick! After that, even though yes they're bigger, I snagged an eGo-C Twist with a tank and it was like night and day. HUGE vapor, great taste, and they last for hours and hours. Yes, they're bigger, yes you need to find a reliable way to carry them and not spill or leak, but well worth it.

"They don't smell the same. I LIKE the smell of cigarettes!"

Reply: The night I bought my kit, I had a regular cig shortly before bed, and several times I looked down at it, had a puff, then took a drag on my e-cig. I found I really liked the taste of the e much more. The real kicker was when I got up the next day and had another analog. I came back inside and just smelled it on me. It came as a shock. At that point it wasn't unpleasant like it is now. It was more like "Holy hades, is this what I've been smelling like?!" Now I wouldn't say that the smell is entirely unpleasant, but it's sure not as good as my vape! I walk into my office and it's like "Ooooh, it smells NICE in here!" And my GF loves the smell. Frankly, any change in habit which increases the odds of my getting hugged/smooched/jumped is certainly a "win".

"It's so expensive."

Reply: Your first setup is going to cost more than cigarettes. Yes. My first kit with additional juice ran me about $75. However, I STILL have much of the hardware from that, and still use it. But lets just look at that $75. Analogs here in Boston run $8.65 a pack, and I was a pack a day. 7 days works out to just over $60. What I had effectively done was buy a little over a week's worth of cigarettes. That first setup I bought lasted me well over 3 weeks. If I hadn't migrated up to an eGo-C Twist (what, $24 and another few beans for the tank) the savings certainly would have been higher. If you don't go overboard like some might (ahem... Like I did) your savings will be quite a bit higher. Longer term, however, your savings will be a lot higher! For me, smokes were running $265/mo, and I would often pick up a little something extra when I stopped in to get cigs. A drink, maybe some snacks, maybe a six of beer. Even if you're living someplace where cigs are cheaper, say $6.50 a pack, that can be $200/mo, while you can get a single eGo and a few tanks to keep on hand for what, $40, then plenty of good juice for another $20 and those eGo batteries will last MONTHS. Replacement cartos are dirt cheap.

If memory serves, in the UK a pack is up around what, £7 or so? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

"I really miss my morning smoke with a coffee/tea."

Stop reading this. Go to Mount Baker Vapor. Buy "Cinnamon Roll". Don't even need to let it steep long. Load that puppy up. Seriously. Go. YOU GO NOW. <---------this is entirely based on opinion and in no way reflects the opinions of any person, historical or fictional, and no Bothans died in bringing you this information, no puppies were injured. However, every time you ignore this God kills a kitten.

It was very hard to give up a morning smoke, I admit. However, since I couldn't smoke in my apartment or office, and it was generally 20°/f outside, I got over that pretty quick.

So there you have it. I've been analog free for just over a month at this point, and I'm really not looking back. I have two eGo at my desk, a tank of Apple, a tank of Cinnamon Roll, and a tank of Black Tea with French Vanilla added, and I not only enjoy this MORE than analog, I don't MISS analog. Not one bit. You CAN get over cigs. I smoked for over 30 years, and I'm a horrible creature of habit. If a mook like me can manage it, anyone can :)

If anyone would care to add their own "Question / Answer" or whatever, please do :)
 

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Lovely! Great effort and most encouraging. I remember the beginning and I was just getting off chewing Nicorette for 10 years and Im pretty much a long time quitter of things due to addictive nature but vaping was quite frustrating to break in to.
I'll put a couple question and answers up too. Every little bit helps.

Nobody I know vapes and I feel stupid sometimes
For now Vaping is new but it's here to stay. If you follow the same rules of conduct regarding smoking cigarettes it will remain a private matter between you and your health

None of the flavors taste as good as they sound
There are a lot of flavors to choose from different vendors. Try not to hope one works for you and buy the big bottle to save money and shipping at first. It'll pay off to do a couple dozen sample purchases from a different vendors at first keeping in mind you still need to stay in the high nicotine category. Unfortunately some vendors don't provide that option with sample sizes so shop around.

That's my two.
 

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GREAT!!! Write up!! My husband and I are awaiting all of our new "toys" to come in the mail where we can finally start this...LOL On the new "toys"...that's a whole other topic! We got our first shipment of 5 bottles of juice yesterday..today our batteries and tanks *should* be coming in. He doesn't get into forums and reading and all that...so I read all of this to him. I feel like people posting stuff like this, is very helpful to all of us newbies. Kind of lets us know what to expect and what not...so THANK YOU for taking the time to write this up!!!
 

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I would add the social aspect:

"I look funny and attract attention in the street or in community."

That's why I keep the slimmer ones in my pocket. They look pretty much like "normal" cigs, so if I get self conscious I have that ready to go. Of course, the times when I've had people stop me and ask about my eGo with tank, it's been a great opportunity for educating someone. I actually keep the name and address of my local shop on my phone and on pieces of paper. I really should go get some of his business cards to keep on hand....
 

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GREAT!!! Write up!! My husband and I are awaiting all of our new "toys" to come in the mail where we can finally start this...LOL On the new "toys"...that's a whole other topic! We got our first shipment of 5 bottles of juice yesterday..today our batteries and tanks *should* be coming in. He doesn't get into forums and reading and all that...so I read all of this to him. I feel like people posting stuff like this, is very helpful to all of us newbies. Kind of lets us know what to expect and what not...so THANK YOU for taking the time to write this up!!!

No problem, thank YOU for the reply (all of you, actually).

In all honesty, I love the feeling of vaping compared to cigs. The very, very first time I used it, I did have a little cough and was expecting that fit you can get from inhaling smoke "wrong" (don't know if that happens to everyone, but once in a blue moon used to happen to me and I'd *hack*cough*bleargh* for several minutes), however it passed really quick. Good luck to you both :)
 

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Heard this one a few days ago: "those things scare me, I had a friend that tried one and the battery blew up in his face". I told him I had been using them for almost 4 years without a problem but he didn't seem very reassured

This isn't an entirely legitimate concern, in my opinion...
As long as you avoid cheap knock-offs of knock-offs of knock-offs by doing proper research, asking for an opinion on a product in here or in ecf chat, they're perfectly safe.
It is also fairly important that new vapers or anyone without training or a proper understanding of electronics avoid using mechanical or unregulated batteries / mods or Rebuildable Atomizers (RBAs), as well as cheaply made battery cells. This is where many or most or all of these 'exploding battery' stories come from.
 

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Heard this one a few days ago: "those things scare me, I had a friend that tried one and the battery blew up in his face". I told him I had been using them for almost 4 years without a problem but he didn't seem very reassured

Anyone who says this hasn't been smoking cigarettes for very long...who hasn't had a disposable lighter blow up on them? Now THAT is scary!
 

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Anyone who says this hasn't been smoking cigarettes for very long...who hasn't had a disposable lighter blow up on them? Now THAT is scary!

X2!!!


I tend to vape larger blingy PVs even when out in public, I am more concerned with performance than what the guy next to me thinks about what IM puffing on. That said, from co-workers and friends I get something along the lines of "That thing looks like something I'd find in my wifes nightstand" lol.
 

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Stop reading this. Go to Mount Baker Vapor. Buy "Cinnamon Roll". Don't even need to let it steep long. Load that puppy up. Seriously. Go. YOU GO NOW.

I am about to place an order with mount baker vapor.. and cinnamon roll sounds delicious.. but i heard to stay away from cinnamon flavors as they are not good for u. is this only true w/ some vendors/juices? or did i hear this wrong?
 

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Heard this one a few days ago: "those things scare me, I had a friend that tried one and the battery blew up in his face". I told him I had been using them for almost 4 years without a problem but he didn't seem very reassured

I actually had a buddy who was using a disposable Blu and had the cart pop on him because he was covering the air hole. Said it scared the $h!t out of him and tasted awful (im sure it did, it was a Blu!) but I wonder if thats what those who give this reason are talking about. I have no doubt that a cheapo battery could blow up though.

The organizer of our local vape meets did something really cool at the last one we had. A local vendor donated a couple ego starter kits for a raffle we had and instead of raffling them off he invited an analoger to the front of them room, offered to give them the ego kit flat out if they stomped out their cancer sticks on the ground in front of everyone. 2 people went home as new vapers that night! If only I could afford to carry around an ego kit every day and offer to give it away to an analoger who showed serious interest but had doubts.
 

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this was mine: "But I LOVE cigarettes, and I just really don't want to quit, even though I know I should"

Fine, so I didn't quit. I bought an eGo, tried some delivery systems, sampled juices "on the side". Found a combo that tasted & vaped pretty good, so I started picking it up first. If I still wanted a cigarette after a few vapes, I had one. Ended up going from a PAD to 1 or 2 per day pretty darn quick, and going on 5 months now. I think giving up that last one is just psychological now. As long as I don't quit 100%, I'm not risking failure. But you know what, that last one is tasting worse & worse every day. I imagine in a few more weeks or months, I'll realize I haven't lit one up in days. But I haven't quit......:p
 

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I am about to place an order with mount baker vapor.. and cinnamon roll sounds delicious.. but i heard to stay away from cinnamon flavors as they are not good for u. is this only true w/ some vendors/juices? or did i hear this wrong?

I haven't heard that, but I hope it isn't true!! My Cinnamon Roll from MBV just came in today and a friend ordered some too. Can't wait to try it! I hope someone with a little more knowledge than me can clear this up...
 

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My husband says he doesn't care a whole lot for vaping because it has a weird aftertaste to him. All of the juices except one, he says this applies to. And I have no idea what he is talking about... I don't really get an aftertaste but if I did I bed it'd be a h*** of a lot better than the aftertaste stinkies leave in your mouth! My friend was sitting next to a smoker one night and he told her there was antifreeze in ecigs and he was just going to stick with analogs. Yeah, cause that makes a ton of sense. Enjoy your formaldehyde and other various poisons!
 
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