Venders PLEASE EXPLAIN~~~PG is my worse NIGHTMARE!!!

[LadyVaper]

I or anyone else dare or should I say hates to complain when we win something....
Even more, my concious will not allow me to say things to venders that work sooo hard to run Contest, Deals, Co-Ops ect. ect. However I and others have come to a point where we often think about smoking rather than vaping because of the headaches we are getting from PG. That is not an option for me. I refuse to go back to smoking. But this has got to change.
Let me expain............I WON a 20ml bottle of ELiquid and I was so glad cause it was one of my most favs and I had been out for a while. Well I got it and I noticed it was ALOT THINNER than it should have been. OK well maybe they used alc. or water to thin it. So I vape one carto ful.....30minutes didn't go by and I had a god awful headache. It has more than 10-20%PG cause I can't tollerate more than that.
I have made it a point to let each vender (I buy from) know to use ONLY VG in my orders, due to severe headaches from PG. Even more so, I requested 100%VG in the email I sent for my winning bottle, in all caps. So it couldn't be missed.
Why is it so hard for a vender to make what is requested. There is NO price difference in VG and PG.
MOST of the venders advertise "Made to order" "Custom made eliquids"
So why am I getting eliquid with PG in them and I specifically ask for 100%VG minus the flavorings?
Ecigs and vaping have gone for my smoke aid to my hobby to my passion.
I have gone to DIY because of this sort of problem. I will not go back to smoking. What can I do about this? I just received an order that I paid for and this company claims to have my name on the VG Nic bottle. Yet the order I received has PG in it, and I didn't even get a response back when I sent an email about it. I am not rich, I live very frugally due to only having disability to live off of. It is not a good thing when I receive a 15-20 dollar order that I can't use!!!

I am not the only one that is having this problem either!!! I have had SEVERAL people PM me asking what I did to get rid of the headaches. I STOPPED USING PG!!
Please, if you are a vender, and you have a request for 100%VG, there is a reason!
If you have had this problem or you know a company that truely makes eliquid to order, please post it. I am not trying to cause problems for venders. I am trying to let people know the importance of not using PG when requested!!!
The headaches are as bad as migraines. And the only thing that makes them stop is to STOP vaping. Tylenol only stops it briefly but it comes right back. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION FOR ME!!!

Thanks everyone for reading and passing on any info you may have.

 

[phil71185]

There is a small local company here in pa that makes liquid made to order. When i order vg from them it is very thick so i doubt there is much in it watering it down. They are called dndvapor i have talked several times to dustin and doug and the make every batch by hand when they get the order, exactly how you order it. You can even custom order nic levels if that is your style i perfer around 15 or so most places wont do that because they premix their liquids in large batches. They are the only liquid i vape anymore bescause i perfer this extra detail and time they take. They are small so they don't have many flavors but everyone i have tried has been amazing so i don't need a hundred flavors. Give them a try and let me know if it works for you.


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D&D Vapor

 

[gthompson]

There are lots of suppliers out there that do 100% VG. AVE and HHV are two of my favorites. If a supplier doesn't give you what you want, stop buying from them. If enough people do that, they'll get the message.

 

[Hurley]

Try kalamazoovaporshop.com. they have some great flavors and will make you liquid how ever you want.

 

[LadyVaper]

There are lots of suppliers out there that do 100% VG. AVE and HHV are two of my favorites. If a supplier doesn't give you what you want, stop buying from them. If enough people do that, they'll get the message.

I have stopped buying, from 3 different companies now, and this prize that was my fav, I stopped buying from them for this reason. Thats why I was out of it. I haven't entered any contest with them lately, this was a big surprise. So I was soooo siked about it. But what a bummer, you find something you really like and you can't get it the way you NEED to.

 

[gthompson]

I know. Some suppliers will bend over backwards for you, others act like they're doing you a favor by taking your money. I know which gets my business.

 

[Fiamma]

Unsmoke.us

I have an allergy to PG as well, but I can tolerate up to 50%.

They hand make juice to order and I find the prices to be fine. A lot of selections for each flavor.

Been using them since I first started vaping.

I buy less now that I started to DIY but he has some stuff I cannot duplicate for the life of me

 

[LongHaul]

If I mix my own I can't be mad at the vendor.....


Sent from my truck using 3 toasters a broken microwave and 6 rubber bands McGyver style......Chuck Norris aint got crap on me

 

[Caridwen]

There is PG in cigarettes. I believe to keep the tobacco fresh.

http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

Probably not in the amount in e-liquid, but it's in there. As well as a bunch of other nasty things.

Probably DIY is your best bet.

 

[Apptiger]

I understand that some PG is used in a lot of flavor extracts or flavor bases. Hopefully not enough to bother you but there are vendors out there that will do all VG.
Mr. Mann started a great thread. Vendors are reading it. An ingredient list and ingredient transparency is is one of the more requested things from the vendors.

Here is a link to the thread.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...essage-e-liquid-vendors-what-we-want-you.html

Looks like they finally made it a sticky.

 

[DantesInferno]

Companies such as halo will keep their pg/vg ratios a secret to protect their "proprietary" blend of ejuice. So if you ordered one from them and said send it in 100%vg that wouldn't happen either. Dont know but maybe that's similar to the one you won. It may be formulated at a certain pg/vg and can't be adjusted. Absolutely go to a vendor that will give you 100%vg. I second AVE and HHV. One thing to mention is some will advertise 100%vg but they may actually be 100%vg base with some pg in it for the flavoring. HHV's are 100% vg. Even the flavoring is vg.

 

[damthisisfun]

I totally agree - that is no different than ordering a pepperoni pizza and getting a beef pizza delivered. Plus everyone knows about the possible allergy to PG and the severe side affects one can have...........I get mine from Johnson Creek so far so good. Good thing u didnt have a serious reaction.............I would never ever buy from this vendor again.

 

[DantesInferno]

You can also read here, Johnny blaze from halo chimed in on their pg/vg ratios and other discussion on pg sensitivity

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325928

 

[Racehorse]

Try to buy from vendors who specialize in mostly 100% VG. Virgin Vapor, Johnson Creek, Alien Visions, etc.

My lips go numb when there is PG in juice. That's how I know. (I can vape it to test juice, but it's rather uncomfortable doing so with numb lips. )

What annoys me are vendors who can make you 100% VG, but decide that samples are going to be PG/VG. If I can't vape your samples, then I can't sample your juice. If I can't sample your juice, I'm not buying from you.

I understand why it's done this way, but why not make up one "lot" of PG-free samples for your new customers so they can try your juice? That way, you can get more customers.

 

[edensin]

I'm so glad you said that Racehorse. I just ordered 6 bottles of 100% vg liquid from a vendor and they included a free sample with the order. It did not occur to me to look at the contents of the free sample. It's pg80/vg20.
I am so glad I didn't try it! Wow. Who'd have thought? Maybe they just toss in something they have extra. I'm just glad they labeled it.
At least your post made me look. Thanks!

 

[LadyVaper]

Thanks everyone for the comments and input. I am going to give these other venders a try. (JC, HHV? Ave ) Who is HHV???
I still cant understand why they find it necessary to add PG when I specifically asked for VG. In ALL CAPS!!!
UGH It BAFFLES ME!!!

 

[DantesInferno]

Heather's Heavenly Vapes!!!

 

[njay23]

There is a small local company here in pa that makes liquid made to order. When i order vg from them it is very thick so i doubt there is much in it watering it down. They are called dndvapor i have talked several times to dustin and doug and the make every batch by hand when they get the order, exactly how you order it. You can even custom order nic levels if that is your style i perfer around 15 or so most places wont do that because they premix their liquids in large batches. They are the only liquid i vape anymore bescause i perfer this extra detail and time they take. They are small so they don't have many flavors but everyone i have tried has been amazing so i don't need a hundred flavors. Give them a try and let me know if it works for you.


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D&D Vapor

I like the idea of using local vendors but how can you tell? D&D doesn't seem to say where they are located. I see you're from Middletown, I'm in the area all of the time, but wait, which Middletown? Bucks? Delaware Co? Do you know of any other local vendors? ThANKS!

 

[phil71185]

Middletown PA right by the harrisburg air port sorry about that they are right up the road from me forget there are other middletowns. If you live in the area dustin has already droped orders off for me and saved me shipping as well. I am sure he wouldn't mind meeting you somewhere either when you are up this way I see it says you are from jersey. Let me know what you think if you try any. Also just another thing of interest if you are ever up this way on the third saturday of the month. There is a vape meet in york and you can sample 20 some venders juices. Check out white rose vaper club for more information.

http://www.whiterosevapersclub.org/

 

[phil71185]

It appears the white rose vapor club site is down at the moment the site will hopefully be back up soon. Will have to shoot dave an email and see what happened.