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:( I am sorry to say... but it does not matter how many people have guns. I know this is not widely known. However the fact is they have technology in sound wave form that is far reaching. They can pull a couple of tanks in or fly over with planes the emit sound wave frequency that just put you to sleep. They even effect the def. They can go it and just take your gun, chip you.... do whatever. There has not been any instances where they had to use it. But it is tested works and is very real. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's a very real technology. And if there was ever a "rising up" against the government with guns they would use it.
May I ask where you heard about this remarkable device, Mariahpoo?
 

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There were flurtations with brown-noise. Researched by military quite a while ago. Not practical on the battlefield as far as I know. There are TV series (the kind that talk about weird stuffis) that have discussed it. It's old. Maybe there's a new one, who knows?

Usually this stuff is unverifiable. Friend of a friend who REALLY knows and has seen it. But who knows. If she does know for sure, she's someone that can't talk about it because it's classified. So...

There are stranger things in this world though.

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Doesnt matter if it is used or not.

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Actually I just asked my husband (cop) and he stated that if there is no residue in the pipe then that person cannot be charged. However, if that person has a clean pipe and drugs are also found on him, then he can be charged (catch 22), in our state anyway.
 

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May I ask where you heard about this remarkable device, Mariahpoo?

My husband has been working in/around/ for some different sound technology companies. One of the first to research sound wave technologies, The Monroe institute, years ago had the military come in and take the researchers. This was very many years ago and very hush hush. But a great many things can be done with frequencies. There are product for the use of the public out called hemi sync. All be it... they are much much much weaker. You can use their "cat napper" one and it literally puts you right down in to the REM state. After 30 min you wake up very refreshed.
 

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My husband has been working in/around/ for some different sound technology companies. One of the first to research sound wave technologies, The Monroe institute, years ago had the military come in and take the researchers. This was very many years ago and very hush hush. But a great many things can be done with frequencies. There are product for the use of the public out called hemi sync. All be it... they are much much much weaker. You can use their "cat napper" one and it literally puts you right down in to the REM state. After 30 min you wake up very refreshed.

move over ambien!
 

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Actually I just asked my husband (cop) and he stated that if there is no residue in the pipe then that person cannot be charged. However, if that person has a clean pipe and drugs are also found on him, then he can be charged (catch 22), in our state anyway.

thanks for verifying my suspicion.
if an unused pipe was illegal, there wouldnt be any stores selling them. which is clearly not the case.
 

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Actually if you ever studied the constitution of the US at college level you would know that it wasn't written for everyone, it was written for rich white men, who where the only ones at the time with any rights under the law. So most likely the the right to keep and bear arms was for them to protect the government.

1. It was actually to protect their land, their families and their property (horses, cattle, slaves, etc.). But times have changed. These days it's not just the "Rich white men" that the 2nd amendment intended for.


And this surprises you how? They where already trying to train independence and creativity out of children when I was in school, it is even worse now with all the meds for children who are ADHD and such.

2. No where did I say I was surprised. They've been conditioning people for a very long time. Using much more effective techniques than what they can get away with at school. If you haven't, I recommend you research Operation Artichoke (later known as MK Ultra). As well as, Project Monarch.

Operation Artichoke/MK Ultra was started by the CIA after the U.S. found SS Nazi documents pertaining to mind control experimentation. The discovery of said documents was thought to be a "bonus" of Project 63 A.K.A. Project National Interest (Project 63 was dictated to the secret importation of a group of German Nazi and Italian fascists scientists). These scientists areas of expertise were primarily physics (rocket R&D), psychiatry (mind control/Psychological Warfare), and micro biology/pharmacology.


And how do you know what all of us have or haven't done?

3. Again, I did not say this. You're right, some people do some of the things I listed. But, the majority haven't.

Actually BT has gotten into e-cigs, it is BP that is the problem, and they don't want us vaping, but they don't want us smoking either. They want us laying out a ton of money on their NRT's that do not work.

4. According to the link below, Phillip Morris is beginning to branch out into Pharma Manufacturing.1/ You're partially correct. Lorillard bought Blu Ecigs for $135 million. BUT they want us to buy Blu ecigs. Not eGo, kGo or ProVari PVs. If they put their money behind FDA regulation of the market, it can make it near impossible for people like me, with no brick & mortar in their state, to get anything but a POS cig-a-like battery and pre-filled cartridges.


Every government in history has done this to their people, even the king james version of the bible was put together to help lead the people into what he wanted. Does that make it right? No, but it is going to take more than one issue to start turning that tide.

5. It is going to take more than one issue? I will only touch on 3 major events. This section alone could go on for hours but I'm on the clock and need to hurry through all this.

We can begin in 1972, The WaterGate Scadal. That shouldn't need explaining. And second, 1985, the Iran-Contra Affair. There are 2 major issues with this one. 1. the violation of the Boland Amendment (passed approx. one year prior) and 2. The exchange of weapons for drugs (can't say the name but.. it is white). #2 was the main cause the crack explosion of the 80's and 90's. Though, the trading of arms to the Contra rebels of Nicaragua for drugs was done by the CIA. The actually US Government just profited from Israel selling anti tank missiles to Iran in order for Iran to have American hostages released.

6. #3 Is Project Artichoke A.K.A. MK Ultra.2/

This has been going on longer than you have been alive, helmets on motorcycles, seat-belts in cars, just to name 2 that happened before you where born, tho there are thousands of examples out there.

7. I don't understand how this beginning before my birth is relevant. My point is, it has been going on far too long. We need to get the power back in the hands of the people instead of the wealthy few who run the world.

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Wow. Is this thread going waaay off topic, or am I wrong?

That's not a reference to that video post above, BTW, since I didn't view it (?yet?). There's no context so IDK how radical left/right it must be to be a "wake up call"....but I may view it later.

However, what does all this have to do with a non-existent take over of e-cigs by government? I know broad context but sheeh. This belongs in the "OUTSIDE" forum... (Fun place to hang out and complain too!) :)
 

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Wow. Is this thread going waaay off topic, or am I wrong?

That's not a reference to that video post above, BTW, since I didn't view it (?yet?). There's no context so IDK how radical left/right it must be to be a "wake up call"....but I may view it later.

However, what does all this have to do with a non-existent take over of e-cigs by government? I know broad context but sheeh. This belongs in the "OUTSIDE" forum... (Fun place to hang out and complain too!) :)

This thread has been dead and drifting away since page 2. The original topic was, the OP is disappointed and let down because he thought he won't have e-cigs much longer because of government regulation.. So, in a way, anything related to government oppression and regulation would be on topic. Somewhat..
 

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Honestly, even if e-juice is regulated you will still be able to order it online from China. They will label it as something else so it will get through customs and everything will be just dandy. It may mean an end to a lot of mom and pops juice companies but the larger ones will hang around.

We could literally come up with hundreds of possible outcomes. We don't know and won't know until it happens. We can only wait and see. I know one thing, I'm buying a lot of my favorite juices just in case (most of my favorites are from small mom and pops companies).
 

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Wow! That jolted me out of lurk mode. Somebody really still believes that propaganda they fed me in elementary school.

Back to sleep now...

OK, well you got me on that one. I forgot secret gov agendas, corporate takeovers and PACs.....oh, and UFOs and Illuminati and.... (not sure how far you wanted to go) ;)
Glad you quit lurking after almost 3 years. It's our gain.
 
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We have to be prepared guys.
 
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