Got a starter kit at liquidbarn and followed all instructions for use and handling. Made two stand alone flavors one strawberry cheesecake, and the other waffle. Used 20% flavoring on waffle, and 15% with the strawberry with 6mg. nic. 50/50 VG, PG shook very well and let sit for a day. Smelled great! So exciting, tried them and NOTHING. No flavor at all. Was so excited to start DIY and now, not so much. 