very small usb charging circuit with status led?

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so i dont know much of this stuff, but i came across this. about 7/16"x1 3/16". its a 3.7v lipo charger 500mah per hour. im almost possible this would be very suitable for charging the batts in my mod, but what about using it as a PT?

also i found this. its a little bigger and would be hard to fit into the case im designing, but its a charger/boost circuit. selectable 3.3 or 5v output, and under voltage lockout as well as some more... could make a dual voltage PT type mod with one drop in chip im thinking.

i know with all you genius', someone could help me
 

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If you want on board charging and you just have a single cell then you can use this-
510 USB Charger
Wire in a female DC jack on your box and replace the batty connector on the charger with a male DC jack.

If you have 2 cells then I recommend this-
Li-Ion 18650 3.7V 4400 mAh Rechargeable Battery module with PCB
with this charger -
Universal Smart Charger for Li-Ion battery Pack (3.7V - 14.8V, 1-4 cells) TLP-2000

see my diagram below

You can find them on amazon for a little cheaper. On board charging for multiple cells is a little trickier
than single cells. I talked to Battery Junction about their battery pack and it has a special PCB with a built in polyswitch, with the charger being made for charging 1 to 4 cells.
IMO it takes up a lot less space in the device a should be overall much safer.
 

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ok so i was looking and thinking, if i were to use this, could i wire it up like this:
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and be able to charge it while vapin? is 500mA per hour sufficient? and would that circuit be functional? sorry if its not a good print, i dont do that stuff, im a fabricator and welder

edit: forgot to put in the resistor and the LEDs for the atty on indicators, but that dont matter for this.
also the red dots are the charging status indicators, didnt need them here but thought id point that out
 
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ok so i was looking and thinking, if i were to use this, could i wire it up like this:
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and be able to charge it while vapin? is 500mA per hour sufficient? and would that circuit be functional? sorry if its not a good print, i dont do that stuff, im a fabricator and welder

That product page is wrong about the charge rate. Charge rates dont go by the hour thats for just the mAh rating. That charger puts out a 500mA charge rate all the time every second. If it truly did put out only 500mA a hour it would take a week to charge your battery. For a 14500 500mA should be ok for a quality cell like those made by AW.
 

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Do like I did. Simply mount a dc jack to the mod and mount this charger in a AAA box. Plug USB or DC jack into charger box and plug the wire you have coming out of the charge box into the vaping device.
This board will charge up to 1200 mA.
I decided to go this route after destroying several 'In Mod' charge boards.
 
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that would work but also defeats the "all in one" package im aiming at. my goal is to make a suitable joye stick clone using a 14500 instead of the 10440. its not quite the stick, but ive got a good case design. but i need to find a charging circuit i can use to design the end part. like i said im a fabricator not an electrician. i dont wanna reveal my case until i can get it the mod done because i know one of you crafty modders will bust one out before i even get a charging circuit to use and i want to be the 1st :p

so far i have the list of parts:

charging module - $9.95
801 connector - $1.99
14500 battery - $4.29
2 x 5mm blue LED - $1.18
Horn style switch - Blue - $1.79

$19.20 + s&h for the parts, if that module will work. and i have the stock for the case, lots of it so thats a freebie
 
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ok im getting ready to order parts.... been waiting a while, too much working to actually do this, and budget conflicts... but i got a new wiring diagram. anything im missing?

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i want to get the shopping list right the first try so the ol lady dont get mad... and make sure i dont ruin anything. im going to buy parts for 2 mods, and want 2 mods at the end.

atty connector
LED
switch
charging module

already have the batteries so no cost there

also id like a nice clickie yet small button, any suggestions? about 5mm would be nice. either that or a touch switch but i dont know nothing about mosfets or anything

also does anyone know what the atty connector is made out of? im guessing stainless but could be wrong. dont want to try to tig weld it and be wrong. they are cheap but still dont want to
 
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How did this turn out for you? Did you find a charging circuit? I am working on something similiar and was trying to add a USB charging circuit but cant seem to find a suitable charging circuit that fits into a 4-AA battery box. My first choice is to use 3-AA(3x1.2v=3.6v) batteries or 2nd choice a VV with 2 14500's(3.7v x 2 =7.4v). Any help would be appreciated.

ok im getting ready to order parts.... been waiting a while, too much working to actually do this, and budget conflicts... but i got a new wiring diagram. anything im missing?

Regards,
Atomizer Mizer

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i want to get the shopping list right the first try so the ol lady dont get mad... and make sure i dont ruin anything. im going to buy parts for 2 mods, and want 2 mods at the end.

atty connector
LED
switch
charging module

already have the batteries so no cost there

also id like a nice clickie yet small button, any suggestions? about 5mm would be nice. either that or a touch switch but i dont know nothing about mosfets or anything

also does anyone know what the atty connector is made out of? im guessing stainless but could be wrong. dont want to try to tig weld it and be wrong. they are cheap but still dont want to
 

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How did this turn out for you? Did you find a charging circuit? I am working on something similiar and was trying to add a USB charging circuit but cant seem to find a suitable charging circuit that fits into a 4-AA battery box. My first choice is to use 3-AA(3x1.2v=3.6v) batteries or 2nd choice a VV with 2 14500's(3.7v x 2 =7.4v). Any help would be appreciated.

it didnt. i have more ideas than money.

the plan was a joye stick concept with a 14500 instead.
2 piece plexiglass case. the bottom piece hollowed out for the charging circuit and the top part drilled out for the bat and atty
frost the plexi and add leds.

i have 1" plexi that would have been perfect. no time or money for the idea

but for charging your set up, youd need something different. i couldnt find anything for charging stacked batteries and youd need to have it on a switch to swap from parallel to series while charging
 

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for the OP, from my meager reading...

Li-Ion chargers range all over the place in how they do what they do. They are not typically setup to be in use while charging. You would need to identify the chip on the board you're thinking of using and scouting Candle Power Forums for chargers that use that chip, or you could buy one from a guy over there cottonpicker i think, who makes little dinky usb chargers for batterys, or ask him if one is possible - he makes basic ones for 18, or with displays for 50, and they terminate properly, and use CC/CV properly, which most cheap ones don't, which is okay if you're just charging a little e-cig battery that when it pops will stain a carpet, but if you're using larger 18650 cells your house might be at risk.

that said, there's folks who have been happy with their little USB charger built into a mod, with a 14500 most recently, cute little green job, looks like a floating glowy PC Board, and there is the option to modify a real Li-Ion charger to have a pig-tail and build a charging adapter into the mod. but again, how use will effect performance as the charger attempts to slowly ramp up voltage as it ramps down amperage I don't know. I've read some chips or schemes used in the cheap chargers (can't remember models) constantly reset themselves as they measure the battery, and then re-start the charging, so that type would probably have no problem being used while charging.

most Li-Ion chargers will attempt to mimic the "best practice" of CC/CV charging (first constant current, or amps, then at the half-way point ramping down the amps as the voltage remains constant, so it finishes getting all of it's amp hours at the same time it reaches it's final voltage). Li-Ion's main charging hurdle is getting the ions to travel back, they're like stuck to the terminal where they end up, and a voltage slightly higher than that of the battery must be applied throughout the charging cycle to get them off of it.

did that have anything to do with your question? there's boards out there in the size you mention that'll charge it, (other than for the above reasons) but not provide enough power to vape on from just the board itself. again, whether i'm providing any usefull info escapes me, hahaha
vaked again
 
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lol some was. the board i found fit my size needs. and the way i was going to wire it, it would have ended up vaping off the charger and the battery at the same time. i cant remember the specifics but it seemed like it would have worked good.
maybe some day ill have the time and money. but right now i have neither. one day maybe ill get the parts and try it, and when i do ill let everyone know how it went
 
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