VG 100% Only For Clouds ?

[Adonaros]

Helloo vapers , I just bought lemo 3 atomizer for my eleaf istick pico, i have been using my pico with the melo 3 mini tank for a long time with liquid 18mg nicotine 50%VG - 50%PG and when i used that liquid with the lemo 3 rda deck i almost died .

So i did a research and i found out that VG is the main way to make big nice clouds so i was wondering if i buy a simple 100%VG base with no nicotine no flavour nothing is it going to work ?

This is the 100% VG Base liquid i have been looking right now

Also i found out a ready liquid strawberry flavour with 85%VG And 15% Water so i dont know if i should buy this instead of the 100%VG Base liquid.

What do you think i should buy? i just want to do big clouds i think you feel me

 

[Jdurand]

In most of the cloud competitions I've seen, they use straight VG to blow clouds out of a dripper. For a tank, you will need at least some PG or DW (distilled Water) to thin the mix so it can wick properly.

 

[DaveP]

IMO, the only reason to vape 100% VG is a desire to make huge clouds of fog. VG has an inherent sweetness, but it masks the flavor of a good juice. To maximize flavor in a vape you need at least 50% PG in the mix.

Of course, that's my opinion, but I'm sure there are many who agree that some PG in a vape is necessary to appreciate the flavor of most any juice. I prefer somewhere between 60 and 80% PG in my mixes.

 

[BrotherBob]

Might like to read:
diy_beginners_guide - DIY_eJuice
dannyv45's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Hoosier's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[dobroeutro]

I think you may need a little (10%) distilled water or PG to get your tank to wick satisfactorily. In a RDA, you may be ok. If you go with the 85/15 pre made strawberry, I would make sure the nic level is .6 or lower...

 

[jambi]

Not surprised you almost died. Dripping 18 mg is not a pleasant experience.

If I wanted pure clouds and nothing else I'd go with your RDA, 0 nic and pure VG, unflavored or flavored with Real Flavors VG based flavoring.

 

[Tee_Jay]

I see these guys at my office who have big box mods and make really big clouds (this is outside of course). When i first got my vape i spoke to them, looking to find out where they get their juice, etc.. Just a newbie looking for info.. They told me that the stuff they vape only comes in 3mg/ml. When i told them i was vaping 18, their mouths dropped.. I kind of felt like 18 might be too much right after talking to them, but when you think of it, and now knowing a bit more about vaping, I think those sub-ohm box mods, producing huge tufts, deliver much more vapour, and hence, more nicotine per puff compared to my smaller 1.6 ohm, 12 watt guy. So it makes sense that you need lower nicotine concentration if you're vaping big clouds - is this the going logic?

 

[sofarsogood]

I made a liquid with 0 VG for stealth purposes. If all the vapor is inhaled and held for a moment there is basically no visible vapor when you exhale. 90% of the visible vapor is going to come from VG. I prefer my mix with 50-60% vg for the sake of texture. I'm not particularly interested in making the biggest clouds.

A U of M survey group is finding that most kids who vape say there is no nicotine in their liquid. That makes sense Nicotine has pretty much no recreational value if you never experienced it from smoking.

I'm convinced what attracts kids to smoking or vaping is the clouds, primorial fire breathing. Vaping makes better clouds. For a kid just looking for a cloud toy, once he has a competent device, he can get his e liquid at the grocery store. Harsh resrictions on vape shops is probably a waste of effort. If he's not exposed to nicotine he can't develop a dependancy on that. Once he discovers cars and women will the cloud toy move to the back of his closet with the other toys he played with as a kid?

 

[Jdurand]

I'm convinced what attracts kids to smoking or vaping is the clouds, primorial fire breathing. Vaping makes better clouds. For a kid just looking for a cloud toy, once he has a competent device, he can get his e liquid at the grocery store. Harsh resrictions on vape shops is probably a waste of effort. If he's not exposed to nicotine he can't develop a dependancy on that. Once he discovers cars and women will the cloud toy move to the back of his closet with the other toys he played with as a kid?

This is a very interesting point, and maybe a topic discussed before, but how many out of the "masses" of "the children" who pick up vaping over smoking are actually using nic? I mean, why would you?

 

[sofarsogood]

This is a very interesting point, and maybe a topic discussed before, but how many out of the "masses" of "the children" who pick up vaping over smoking are actually using nic? I mean, why would you?

An esteemed U of M public health survey group reported that most of the kids who admitted vaping said there was no nic in their liquid. This was a finding the researchers were not looking for. It was a surprise. (We claim to pay attention to what kids are doing, right?) The first reaction was, well, it must be about the flavors. But cigarettes taste awful and kids smoke them anyway. To the uninitiated smoking/vaping are visual. My theory is 'fire breathing' must be some primordial thing that fascinates humans. By passing on nic the kids are showing what their real interest is. That's why I've renamed my vape to cloud toys. It all depends on your perspective.

Now that we know that we know that all the fire breathing wannabe kid needs is a competent device, access to a grocery store and a couple of bucks for some VG. Do we really want to make a big fuss about that if it means the kid never smokes? Parents should decide about this, not bureaucrats. (Parents need to know the difference between a mech and a regulated mod.)

 

[Adonaros]

I finally bought the 100ml 0 nic 100%vg base and i didnt like it because as a 7 years smoker i need the nicotine so i put my 30ml bottle with 18mg nicotine 50%VG - 50%PG strawberry juice in it and now i love it, i can make big clouds and taste good and it has a small hit. Now i need a new mod because the battery goes out very fast on my pico im planning on buying the Smok Alien 220w.