VG and ohms-watts

[Neiledward]

ECF is a great resource. Thanks all you for being so helpful...
If I can ask. I'm looking to go mostly VG. I'm am going to order from Velvet Cloud. Until very recently I was an American Spirit organic light smoker. About 10 a day. I know smokes are bad but I've always been kind of particular with ingredients. So here's my setup. E-grip oled cl 30 watt. Here's my question. With high VG do I want the 0.5 coil or 1.0 coil? I like a decent sized cloud it helps fool me about not smoking cigs. I've been hanging around 15 watts. joyetech recommends not exceeding 20 watt with a cl coil. I don't think I'm ready to rebuild (rba). Or should I look at other tanks/glassomizers...Thoughts?

 

[ddirtyvapes]

You can use any resistance coil with any blend of PG/VG just about. The important thing is making sure that the coil can handle thick juice if you go high-VG. Lots of people like using high-VG at very low resistances because it's less harsh and gives off better clouds, but there's nothing inherently preventing you from using 100% VG with a 3Ω coil or 100% PG with 0.3Ω.

If you can afford it, I would recommend trying both resistances eventually. 30W doesn't give you a lot of room with 0.5Ω if you decide you actually do want to push the wattage some. Depending on the coil and wicking material, 0.5Ω can take more than 30W pretty easily but it just depends. For example, I often vaped the older 0.5Ω Subtank coils (with high-VG juice) down at about 20W but the newer ones wick better and can be vaped at 30-40W no sweat. It's partially personal preference and partially how well the wick handles VG.

Gun-to-my-head, I'd personally go for 1.0Ω coil heads with a 30W device. The manufacturer-recommend wattage is just that, a recommendation. You are free to fiddle around some to find your own sweet spot and 1.0Ω coils can certainly still produce good clouds with a slightly thicker juice and the right wattage.

You can't actually use other tanks with an eGrip, I thought? So unless you're planning on getting another device-- which you certainly could for not much money-- you'll have to stick with the eGrip coil heads or get into rebuilding some. I personally rebuild and greatly enjoy it. It's not for everyone but if you like doing fiddly things like that, it's a useful skill to have with the current industry climate.

Please let us know if you have any more questions, or if anything I said confused you further... you wouldn't be the first!

Good luck.

 

[steam heat]

go with the .5 ohm if your set on prebuilt coils...joyetech does indeed make a rba for that mod,it can be found online.... Ya should watch a few coil build videos. Building is way cheaper than buying prebuilts and not as hard as ya would think

 

[Neiledward]

Oh yeah you're right about the e-grip. What I should have said is other devices with different tanks or whatever. I've been looking at the istick 50w or the kanger subox mini. I bought the e-grip cause it seems kind of rugged and portable but I'm not so sold on the performance. Was thinking about trying the 0.5 coil... Thanks for the help. It sounds like maybe more watts and less resistance could be good for me.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

Oh yeah you're right about the e-grip. What I should have said is other devices with different tanks or whatever. I've been looking at the istick 50w or the kanger subox mini. I bought the e-grip cause it seems kind of rugged and portable but I'm not so sold on the performance. Was thinking about trying the 0.5 coil... Thanks for the help. It sounds like maybe more watts and less resistance could be good for me.

I'd say yes, get another device and keep the eGrip as a back up. If you can't afford another and have to sell the eGrip to do so, I'd still recommend it. By all accounts, the eGrip seems to be a perfectly fine device but quite limited with the built-in tank. It does have its uses, though, and it's great for its simplicity which is why I'd say keep it if you can. But your options will open up 100-fold with another device that can take separate tanks or atomizers.

Skip the iStick 50W. Too many people had problems with them and there are far better options on the market today. You could go for an iStick 60W which has the option for temperature control but you don't have to worry about that yet, you could do something like the innokin Cool Fire IV Plus, or even an eVic VTC mini. There are TONS of options beyond those three.

While you probably don't need much more than 30W right this second, I would strongly recommend investing in a device that is capable of at least 50W. You can always use it at a much lower power setting (thus increasing your battery life) and that way it gives you a little bit of headroom for the future.

So yeah, in a perfect world I would say: 1) Either the 0.5Ω or 1.0Ω eGrip heads will be fine for now. You can't go wrong but may have a little more flexibility on a 30W device with a 1.0Ω coil 2) you could get an eGrip RBA section and try out rebuilding but are still somewhat limited between the wattage and the fact that you can only use the eGrip RBA so 3) you should definitely consider getting a mod with more versatility, even if that means having to sell the eGrip... but ideally the eGrip is a great back-up/on-the-go device.

 

[Neiledward]

That's solid advice. Thanks again. I believe I will keep the e-grip for work and invest in a bigger mod box for when having some drinks which I think is when it will really count!

 

[ddirtyvapes]

@Neiledward No problem. I think you have the right idea, and if you do get into rebuilding eventually then you might have an easier time getting more satisfaction from the eGrip. I think it's an unfortunate misconception that you HAVE TO have really low resistance coils to get good clouds and a satisfactory vape. Not that you are suggesting this is true, but enough people (especially newer vapers) feel this way these days that it's easy to start believing it. My point is that I love vaping 0.18Ω at 120W or whatever, but I can also get a completely satiating experience with a 1.2Ω coil in a good atomizer or tank at 22W or so.

Feel free to send me a private message if I can be of any help narrowing down on a device. There are so many out there, and lots that won't break the bank. Same goes for tanks and atomizers. You're on the right path!

 

[suprtrkr]

The issue with high VG is wicking. If the coil can wick it, pick ohms that suit your vape style. FWIW, building is probably a good idea. Then you can wick Rayon.