Im mixing 100% vg using RealFlavors vg flavoring. They sudgest 15-20% per flavor. Should I have the flavor total be around 17%? or do I have to use 15% of each individual flavor?
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Hi,
Are you using the flavour(s) as stand alone or in mixes?
Stand alone I would start at the low end and find what % works/tastes best for me and my devices.
In a mix, I would usually start at 50% of my stand alone value. less if making a complex/multi flavored recipe.
I tend to stay at 15% TOTAL of ALL flavours or less per recipe.
HTH
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You don't need to use that high percentage for each flavor, no. I like real flavors just fine and at way lower percentages than that, so keep in mind it is just a suggestion, although it certainly might be the "right" percentage for some palates, especially if coming from storebought.
My recommendation would be to mix up small tester mixes of single flavors for at least SOME of the flavors. Try on the low side, do some steeping and tasting along the way, and start LOWER than higher, it's a lot easier to add flavor than it is to dilute down (although I have most certainly done BOTH on occasion.)
While an "across the board" suggestion for flavors even from the same manufacturer is near impossible, well, it should start to give you a "sense" for the flavoring and how it works for you. I did that a bunch early on and steeped, and mixed flavors IN my tank (not the same as a recipe but it gave me a sense of what COULD work with what) as I got started. I wrote down EVERYTHING. It was a slower DIY start for me, but it did give me a sense of my flavors before I began embarking on more complicated mixes..
Also, if a mix fails, don't toss it, try to fix it! I have learned more about DIY by doing that than by ANY of my "excellently lucky out of the gate" DIY mixes. Fixing a flavor is a real challenge, and you have nothing to lose besides some time, creativity, and really learning about how dilution works. Best of luck,
Anna
My recommendation would be to mix up small tester mixes of single flavors for at least SOME of the flavors. Try on the low side, do some steeping and tasting along the way, and start LOWER than higher, it's a lot easier to add flavor than it is to dilute down (although I have most certainly done BOTH on occasion.)
While an "across the board" suggestion for flavors even from the same manufacturer is near impossible, well, it should start to give you a "sense" for the flavoring and how it works for you. I did that a bunch early on and steeped, and mixed flavors IN my tank (not the same as a recipe but it gave me a sense of what COULD work with what) as I got started. I wrote down EVERYTHING. It was a slower DIY start for me, but it did give me a sense of my flavors before I began embarking on more complicated mixes..
Also, if a mix fails, don't toss it, try to fix it! I have learned more about DIY by doing that than by ANY of my "excellently lucky out of the gate" DIY mixes. Fixing a flavor is a real challenge, and you have nothing to lose besides some time, creativity, and really learning about how dilution works. Best of luck,
Anna
That is a high percent of Flavor. Try them out at lower levels first. It is always experiment with flavoring. I end up with around 10% total flavoring with most mixes. I don't use 100%VG but it is 80VG/20 PG.
Too much flavoring can overwhelm the tastebuds.
Too much flavoring can overwhelm the tastebuds.
Depends on what you bought (what flavor your mixing), where you bought it, and if single or mix not to mention SC or standard.
For apple pie std VG single = 5% and add more till its at your desired single strength (seed steep).
SC apple pie single = .5 and add more till its at your single strength (seed steep).
From above, adjust to a mix.
From: Real Flavors
Super Concentrate (Usage 0.5%-2.5%) <------------------------------------------------------------?????
VG Base (Usage 12%-15%) <------------------------------------------------------------?????
re: Apple Pie
From: Apple Pie by NorthWest VG Flavors:
"All flavor concentrates are undiluted! Recommended usage: 5-10% (or to taste) <---------------------------?????
COMPONENT RESULT ACTION
Rate of Use 4% - 7% <------------------------------------------------------------?????
re: Apple Pie by NorthWest VG Flavors
Their VG flavors do seem to take a lot.
I have 6 testers mixed up that sounded like good stand alones. Started them all at 5%. Could barely smell 2. Ended up bumping all to 10% based on taste. Getting ready to bump 2 to 15% based on smell (I'll probably taste first).
When I get around to using the rest I'll probably start them all at 10%.
I was also wondering about mixes, whether they should all go in at 10%-20% or if it would end up being 20% total like I'm limited to 10% flavoring using PG flavors.
Yeah I'm aware that you can use PG flavoring and get away with low percentages like 5-10% total. But I was told when using VG the flavor percentage has to be much greater. Just confused on how much it's supposed to be I guess I'll try 15 to 20%.
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