Video Reviews Rant Enclosed

[dbrandt01]

I disagree and agree with some stuff in this thread. I review stuff I buy with my own money. I've only been sent one line of juice before and I liked it because I was given the ability to pick the pg/vg ratio, flavors and nicotine level. Given I'd probably like them. There have been a couple juices I don't like and I have said it.

I wear Guy Harvey shirts in my reviews. I'm not going to put a dress shirt and tie on just for a video that'll give a fake impression of myself. I dress in the videos how I dress every day. That's how I am. If i had a product I hate, I would say it, but with juices I know what I like and I buy the flavors I like so rarely is there anything negative to say. I may not speak the best in my videos, but again it's how I am and I'm trying to speak clearly. I can spend 6 hours trying to record a video speaking good enough but then it sounds horribly fake. So I'll say "y'all" a lot. I'll have a twang as some people would claim with a lot of what I say.

I can agree with the "sick as t***" and "buttery smooth" comment earlier. I'll also agree with the blowing clouds at the camera. I blow mine off to the side, but if the AC kicks on and the vapor goes to the camera, then suck it up for 2 seconds until the vapor clears. I'm not going to re-record it because of that.

Vapingwithtwisted420 is an amazing reviewer. He doesn't sugar coat and he tells it like it is. I told it like it was with a protank 3, I strongly disliked that tank, but then there are people that want a "fair review" but then get .... hurt when a product they like is talked down on. (Proven from the 20+ messages I've received because of that video).

 

[Dougiestyle]

I think you were being a little harsh. First off you can get a vibe of a review very quickly so if you don't like it just click off . I think all sorts of people are doing reviews because they want to help, they are not pro's so...... Also you sure have a lot of complaints but if you can do a video better then go for it. P Bursardo always has great video's so go there.

I probably could not do a better job is the ironic part. I haven't ever attempted it , though, due to that belief.

Maybe I should have kept my fingers off the keyboard tonight, but wanted to fish for others who agree with my opinion. if this thread turns into a big "Doug's a stupid doodoo head and he has stupid opinions" thread, I may revisit my original impressions. Chances are I'm predisposed to being somewhat of a doodoo head, though

 

[PapaSloth]

Maybe I should have kept my fingers off the keyboard tonight, but wanted to fish for others who agree with my opinion. if this thread turns into a big "Doug's a stupid doodoo head and he has stupid opinions" thread, I may revisit my original impressions. Chances are I'm predisposed to being somewhat of a doodoo head, though

The important part is not whether your opinions are correct or incorrect, the important part is that you wear a suit and tie when you post, and that you present yourself in a professional manner at all times. After all, it can't possibly be bull.... if someone in a nice suit says it, can it?

 

[imsoenthused]

I probably could not do a better job is the ironic part. I haven't ever attempted it , though, due to that belief.

Maybe I should have kept my fingers off the keyboard tonight, but wanted to fish for others who agree with my opinion. if this thread turns into a big "Doug's a stupid doodoo head and he has stupid opinions" thread, I may revisit my original impressions. Chances are I'm predisposed to being somewhat of a doodoo head, though

You aren't, and I get what you are saying. I myself tend to dislike any reviews done by what I like to refer to as "vape bros". Some of their key phrases have already been mentioned in this thread. I like guys who come across as someone I could have a beer and a nice chat with, and I'd rather see someone comfortable in a t-shirt than faking it in a tie if it obviously makes them uncomfortable. Other people love the kooky(imo juvenile) "vape bros" and that's fine. You would rather see more structure and professionalism and that's fine too. I guess I'm just saying it takes all kinds.

 

[PapaSloth]

You aren't, and I get what you are saying. I myself tend to dislike any reviews done by what I like to refer to as "vape bros". Some of their key phrases have already been mentioned in this thread. I like guys who come across as someone I could have a beer and a nice chat with, and I'd rather see someone comfortable in a t-shirt than faking it in a tie if it obviously makes them uncomfortable. Other people love the kooky(imo juvenile) "vape bros" and that's fine. You would rather see more structure and professionalism and that's fine too. I guess I'm just saying it takes all kinds.

I'm 52 and a professional, but I wouldn't mind hanging out with RIP Trippers for a while and talking about coils. The man obviously knows his stuff, and I could pick up a lot, even if he's the classic example of someone who "shouldn't be making videos."

 

[SunshinePete]

You have the option of not watching. The worthwhile opinions are in forums like this, and from people who've used Product X for a period of time so know that its fire button gets unreliable, its 510 threads wear out - you get picture. Also they don' t keep saying 'Wow!" and that's a major plus.

 

[Kropotkin]

The minute I start paying for reviews I'll start feeling entitled and snooty.

Until then . . . neah.

 

[eratikmind]

Different strokes for different folks, as the saying goes. I consider and select whom I watch. No big deal if someone does not suit me. I'm sure that they will benefit someone else. It's a big world out there.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

I think another issue is saturation.

I have nothing against anyone venturing out in the "review" waters-in fact it takes alot of guts.
I respect those that are excited and want to help, and the efforts it takes to put up even the simplest of videos.
Many of these folks have been my "support group" to keep me off cigarettes when I was starting out.

I can live with t-shirts or life occurring in the background as long as your ANGLE is unique, your PRESENTATION planned (and I don't mean reading a script), and you PRACTICE and PREACH SAFETY.

I personally get nothing anymore from seeing the 100th person unscrew yet another threaded metal tube or show me the spring in a switch.
Understand that there are folks out there (Pbusardo, Grimm, RIP,etc) that have got that down ...pat.
Whether you like them or not, they have become very good at what they do.

Personally I'm much more concerned with "Rag Man"-type videos being held up to "represent vaping" than ANY new youtube reviewer hanging out his shingle.

 

[TheJakeBailey]

A tie? You think Vape reviewers should wear a tie? They aren't sales people. They aren't trying to sell you something. They aren't getting paid for what they do. Most are just hobbyists with real jobs, and real lives, just like everyone else. I can see getting irritated with bad video, bad audio, and mumble mouth idiots, of which there are plenty. The few that I watch regularly, (Todd, Phil, Rip, Twisted, Ruby, and maybe a couple of others,) have all helped me out at one time or another, and all without a tie. Maybe you can start a channel of your own for like minded vapors and let us know how easy it is to be perfect!

 

[Kropotkin]

Jake Bailey, you are clearly a person of unusual perspicacity and great good sense.



The idea that folks would actually make demands of unpaid YouTube strangers seems absolutely bizarre to me.

 

[Coldrake]

I know this will sound crazy, but I watch the reviewers that I like, and don't watch the reviewers that I don't like. But that's just me.

 

[malkuth]

First off, let me say that I am a dyed in the wool curmudgeon. I like to say that I am too old to care. However, I must agree with Dougystyle... I grew up in Wichita, Ks, so that might give you an idea of where I am coming from. My parents taught me (I know, that is an arcane concept) that to learn how to speak and present myself in public I should pay attention to the people on the radio and TV. It bothers me no end to see what has happened in this arena in the last few years. The same is true with the so called reviewers on You Tube today. I would be appalled if I were to duplicate what I see today. Truth is, there is no place left anymore to learn proper presentation methodology. Everyone is buying into the concept of playing to the least common denominator rather than forcing that least common denominator to raise to a significant level of intelligence to correspond to what they are attempting to do.

In short, Doug, I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, I feel that the chances of this arcane belief system becoming the moor today is quite dismal.

 

[Shellie]

I have to say, I love YouTube just for the fact that anyone can post, and I can choose who I want to watch based on their style and level of info. I prefer vapors who review for people new to vaping, so I don't want information on making coils or rewicking in a review video. I like information on flavor profiles and throat hit (which I don't like, so I keep an ear out for those words) rather than clouds. I have found a few reviewers with this type of info. I don't care if they're tatted, pierced, wearing a tie or a t-shirt. However, I do appreciate when they're well spoken and not repeating themselves incessantly. I think it comes down to information and clarity. My opinions only

 

[Uma]

I enjoy watching the various reviewers, during the first half of the month. After that, I'm screaming and cussing at the monitor when they're wasting more of my bandwidth. All I want to know is what separates this atty or mod from the rest, & I could care less about your new webcam, trip to Kansas, fight with manhattan, or the review I could have should have watched about the PREVIOUS model that I STILL don't care to watch. And please, STOP repeating yourself, I effin GET THE PICTURE!
Other than that, everything's peachy.
I did find a few reviewers who offer direct, short, sweet reviews & or tutorials, but, of course, they haven't YET reviewed the object of my obsession.
Does anyone have a list of bandwidth savvy reviewers who get real, direct and short as can be?
With that said, I love ya all and appreciate ya all, when I'm not averaging 5 overages per month trying to get a handle on a product.

 

[Ryedan]

I'm 52 and a professional, but I wouldn't mind hanging out with RIP Trippers for a while and talking about coils. The man obviously knows his stuff, and I could pick up a lot, even if he's the classic example of someone who "shouldn't be making videos."

Somehow I doubt he is that way in person, but then again I haven't met the man. Keep in mind though, he's the most popular reviewer out there these days in terms of views per video, total views and number of subscribers. I strongly suspect he is quite the actor and quite smart. Or maybe he's really like that and it just all worked out for him by chance, LOL.

Either way, as you say he really knows his coils and I occasionally watch him do a build. Learn something and have a good chuckle ... great stuff

 

[K_Tech]

I'll try to keep this PC as possible.

I try not to watch e-cig reviews. On occaision, I get sucked in and am convinced that this or that reviewer can sway me or educate me to some degree. Every single time, well almost, I am left wondering where the script and rehearsal were produced/performed.

Reviewers, please script your production. I am sick of seeing your attempt at cohesive thought processes to present your ideas and opinions. Most of the time, a minor detail is presented multiple times and as an afterthought major points of interest are touched-on after ADD has been overcome momentarily enough to throw that little tidbit in.

Your monologue should be rehearsed until such time as your presentation appears fluid and relaxed. Please don't give us a junior high oral report using flash cards and unneccessary haver..

Give us a set! No one wants to hear your toddler screaming for his/her babah or your dogs tail wag past the horizon behind you or your significant other carrying your laundry basket upstairs as you sit on your 15 year old tweed sectional with matching Samurai sword collection from Fingerhut mounted next to the Matchbox 20 poster.

Give us a professional presentation or leave the broadcasts to Brian Williams.

Put a tie on. Your faded Old Navy t-shirt is best worn while barbecuing ribs.

Sincere thanks and dedicated follower to the first e-cig reviewer to accomplish these tasks!

Most every video regarding e-cigs that I've ever seen on Youtube has earned an E- on my report card. There are very few exceptions. If you review, please try to change this perception for the better. Thank you!

/rant

Sent from The Oscar Meyer Weinermobile using dial-up and a rotary phone while rolling my eyes

And quite frankly, the same reasons you dislike the reviews is what makes them appealing to me. After all, it's YouTube, not Masterpiece Theater, lol!

 

[Dougiestyle]

First off, let me say that I am a dyed in the wool curmudgeon. I like to say that I am too old to care. However, I must agree with Dougystyle... I grew up in Wichita, Ks, so that might give you an idea of where I am coming from. My parents taught me (I know, that is an arcane concept) that to learn how to speak and present myself in public I should pay attention to the people on the radio and TV. It bothers me no end to see what has happened in this arena in the last few years. The same is true with the so called reviewers on You Tube today. I would be appalled if I were to duplicate what I see today. Truth is, there is no place left anymore to learn proper presentation methodology. Everyone is buying into the concept of playing to the least common denominator rather than forcing that least common denominator to raise to a significant level of intelligence to correspond to what they are attempting to do.

In short, Doug, I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, I feel that the chances of this arcane belief system becoming the moor today is quite dismal.

Thank you, Sam!

Quoted for truth.

The necktie statement I made was in reference to the scrunched look and lack of importance to presenting a positive image of ones' self. I certainly don't demand anyone wear a necktie. You would never see Peter Jennings on-air in a faded Slipknot tee tho.

In addition to my position, I will enlighten everyone to the fact that I am Meet Leader and MC for our regional vapers' group, Smoky Mountain Vapers. I definitely don't wear neck ties. While I am in my role as MC, tho, I do wear clean, presentable clothes that conforms to the majority demographic of our group. I use note cards to prevent the stammering that bothers me so much in the video reviews.

At our May Meet, I was, however, informed that I should enunciate the term "Juice Pack", when announcing free attendance raffle items, as it was perceived by many that I was saying douche bag! Maybe I talk with a twang, but I know I said juice pack!