Vision Clone Vivi Nova question

[NoleintheNati]

I got some sort of non Vision Nova tank.
It has little cones on the coil heads (Dunno if this is SmokTech or some sort of Redux). It has a Metal tank. Came with a Metal Drip tip.

Is there any way on Earth to make these things taste as though I'm not smoking boiled hotdog water out of a raw led pot?

It's metallic, it hits REALLY hot (It's a 2.4 ohm coil labeled 1.8). I dig the tank...but whoa...it's unvapable.
Any tricks?

 

[Kanj.nguyen]

If its too hot it sounds like you have a hot spot. Believe it or not it does happen on silica wicks.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I HATE the non Vision Vivis. You could try turning the voltage down. What voltage are you using?

 

[NoleintheNati]

3 and 3.5 Watts! Not a thick Juice.
I've different heads. I'm self wrapping one now.
Do I need a witch Dr and a sacrificial goat??

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

3 and 3.5 Watts! Not a thick Juice.
I've different heads. I'm self wrapping one now.
Do I need a witch Dr and a sacrificial goat??

LOLLL it should be fine. That "cap" is the silicon cap and seals between the drip tip and the air way to prevent leaks. Maybe try a 2.4 ohms as 1.8 gives a "warm" vape and it's even warmer cuz the coil is at the top close to the mouth. Could also be a hot spot. Sounds stupid but do you have a multi tester to test the new wrapped coil?

 

[NoleintheNati]

LOLLL it should be fine. That "cap" is the silicon cap and seals between the drip tip and the air way to prevent leaks. Maybe try a 2.4 ohms as 1.8 gives a "warm" vape and it's even warmer cuz the coil is at the top close to the mouth. Could also be a hot spot. Sounds stupid but do you have a multi tester to test the new wrapped coil?

I do. I'm working on it. This thing has become todays project. It's not my only tank. It'd just be nice to be able to use this one
What I meant is unlike Nova caps which are flat, this has a pointy metal cone coming up through the silica cap. like it's sending the vaper straight up to the tip. I've seen pics of redux heads that look like it.

 

[NoleintheNati]

This is what I mean Vision Nova head together (wickless) Left .. This rebranded to retail store's name thing on the Right

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I do. I'm working on it. This thing has become todays project. It's not my only tank. It'd just be nice to be able to use this one
What I meant is unlike Nova caps which are flat, this has a pointy metal cone coming up through the silica cap. like it's sending the vaper straight up to the tip. If seen pics of redux heads that look like it.

The Vision clearomizers have that type of pointy tip. Realize also these Vivis including the Visions can be out by + - .4 ohms. Try taking the cap off while holding the tank vertical and vape- see if that makes a diff.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

This is what I mean Vision Nova head together (wickless) Left .. This rebranded to retail store's name thing on the Right
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That is a ST redux head I believe. Does your tank look like this?

Maxi Roughstack V2 Multi-voltage capable E cig mod

 

[Thrasher]

remember that the nova is now a model type and not a specific device.

that is a clone head for sure, most of the nova clones are horrible and never work like the real vision novas. i personally would write it off and get a real vision.

 

[NoleintheNati]

That is a ST redux head I believe. Does your tank look like this?

Maxi Roughstack V2 Multi-voltage capable E cig mod

No
It's just a Clone Vivi. None of my real Visions have the tip on the coil. Notice no red hashes by the V box. Came with three heads. etc

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Countless times people will post complaining of poor Vivi performance. It's only later we discover they're using Vivi clones. I've used all sorts of diff delivery devices and the best so far, for me, are the Vision Vivis. Using them for 6 months, heads are lasting 10 weeks...still firing fine but the wick begins to shred. I was recommending a great inexpensive 3.7 starter kit until the vendor changed the Vision Vivis included in the kit to ST Vivis. That's the reason Vision Vivis are hard to find and the reason they were the first "out of stock" item around Chinese New Years. In my 1 1/2 yrs vaping I believe the Vision Vivi are the best innovation in the vaping world. All we need now is a head with no silica wicks IMO.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

No
It's just a Clone Vivi. None of my real Visions have the tip on the coil. Notice no red hashes by the V box. Came with three heads. etc
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LOLLL thank you for the pics- clears the mud up a lot. Problem is the Vivi is so popular everyone and their Uncle are now making diff versions of them.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Vendors should be completely honest with consumers in regards to advertised products and if they're not I refuse to deal with them. Gotta go as I lost a bet with wife and have to prepare dinner...homemade perogies from scratch

 

[Furious Mikey]

I have one of the clones with the silicone tip as well. Think I'll try that too since everything tastes burnt to me. I'm pretty new to this but there are only so many things that can be wrong with a clearomizer.

 

[NoleintheNati]

It was not sold as a Vision. This particular vendor doesn't like dealing with the company Vision for whatever their reasons, they used to...
I just wanted an all metal tank. My original post was more to the question of other than washing and doing a self wrap...can these be salvaged

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

It was not sold as a Vision. This particular vendor doesn't like dealing with the company Vision for whatever their reasons, they used to...
I just wanted an all metal tank. My original post was more to the question of other than washing and doing a self wrap...can these be salvaged

I just thought- have tried a dry burn on them? Gunked up coils can get quite warm.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Actually are you using them on the Vamo? I just ordered one as I sold my Porvari a few days ago...
Delivery devices can run really warm on the Vamo if it's in mean/average mode. In RMS it runs much cooler. Hold the little button on the right for 10 seonds until it reads "No2". Also, try running it in watt mode if you already aren't- hold the left small button for 10 seconds. Set it to about 6 watts and try it out.
I remembered this when researching before buying.

 

[NoleintheNati]

Yes I'm in RMS. (Have already replaced the silca ring under my post with #60 black plumbing o-ring) It's not the PV it's not the juice....it's the POS components with this clone

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Yes I'm in RMS. (Have already replaced the silca ring under my post with #60 black plumbing o-ring) It's not the PV it's not the juice....it's the POS components with this clone

Sorry but all out of ideas. My problem is some of these clones/ junk are being manufactured by some fairly "reputable" large companies.
Smok Tech- LOVE their cartos, hate their Vivis.
SLB- LOVE their Kgo, hate their Kgo VV.
Vision- LOVE their Vivis, hate their clearos.
I just wish we could purchase this stuff without having to wait and hear from the retail "guinea pigs". As far as I'm concerned generally the R&D with this stuff is almost non existent- put it together, sell huge quantities, discover the flaws and release version 2, 2.5, 3....