So I've had my vision spinner 2 for about 2 weeks now and it seems like it's not holding charge like it should. The white like which is 100% to 60% only stays on for about an hour then goes to blue. And I've noticed it doesn't last all day like my other 1600mah aspire cf vv battery. Any tips or help about what I could be doing wrong?
Vision Spinner 2 charging probs
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Are you keeping the 510 connector on the battery and the charger clean? Any liquid on there can interfere with good charging.
Are you plugging the charger dongle into an AC/USB adapter that can provide a minimum of 500 mA output current. Low power USB supplies create problems.
Some people report a VV battery charges better/faster if they turn it up to the highest voltage setting for charging.
Are you plugging the charger dongle into an AC/USB adapter that can provide a minimum of 500 mA output current. Low power USB supplies create problems.
Some people report a VV battery charges better/faster if they turn it up to the highest voltage setting for charging.
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First, contact the vendor...see if you can just get it replace, or get it almost discharged and then try again. My buddy went through something similar. He let it discharged to yellow light but instead of wall adapter, he plug the USB connector to his USB plug on his computer at work. It was fine after that.
I believe, but make sure you're using charger that is approved by Vision.
I believe, but make sure you're using charger that is approved by Vision.
You will find a variety of postings on these forums in regards to the Vision Spinner 2 / 1600mah batteries... effectively.. they are duds.. you need to 'double dip'.. meaning charge on one usb charger and when that indicates 'done' then grab another one and charge again.. it seems the only way to re-charge them fully.
Despite the public outcry by various members who have purchased these models (myself included) Vision initially said they would produce a USB charger that would do the job but as the months roll by they have not released any model and they don't appear to.
It seems the task has gone in the 'too hard basket'.. ...
Don't purchase anymore.
Some people have success re-charging it only once with: genuine 200mah (510 charger) / EVOD USB charger / 510 USB Charger for E-Smart batteries.
Koala hugs from Australia.
Despite the public outcry by various members who have purchased these models (myself included) Vision initially said they would produce a USB charger that would do the job but as the months roll by they have not released any model and they don't appear to.
It seems the task has gone in the 'too hard basket'.. ...
Don't purchase anymore.
Some people have success re-charging it only once with: genuine 200mah (510 charger) / EVOD USB charger / 510 USB Charger for E-Smart batteries.
Koala hugs from Australia.
Wow, okay. I thought it was just me. My Vision Spinner II is only a couple of months old, and I'm having the same issue. Put it on the charger for about an hour, but when the charger's green light comes on and I take the battery off, the button would STILL light up orange.
(sigh..) Put it BACK on the charger, and the charger's light goes red again. It seems to take longer for the charger light to go green on the second charge. When it does, I take the Spinner II off, and this time the button light is white. But it only stays white for an hour or so, before it drops back down into blue. Get another hour or so at the blue level and then the thing goes back to orange! Four-five hours on a charge for a 1600 mah battery just sucks. I get longer vape time on my original Spinners and I only have to charge 'em once!
and THIS from the vendor I purchased it from...
"Special charging instructions: When charging your Spinner 2 you may notice that it finishes charging very quickly, but is not fully charged. You must remove it from the charger and then reattach it to the charger and begin the charge cycle again for the battery to take a full charge."
I'm over it, the thing still works, but I'm pretty disappointed with it's performance.
(sigh..) Put it BACK on the charger, and the charger's light goes red again. It seems to take longer for the charger light to go green on the second charge. When it does, I take the Spinner II off, and this time the button light is white. But it only stays white for an hour or so, before it drops back down into blue. Get another hour or so at the blue level and then the thing goes back to orange! Four-five hours on a charge for a 1600 mah battery just sucks. I get longer vape time on my original Spinners and I only have to charge 'em once!
and THIS from the vendor I purchased it from...
"Special charging instructions: When charging your Spinner 2 you may notice that it finishes charging very quickly, but is not fully charged. You must remove it from the charger and then reattach it to the charger and begin the charge cycle again for the battery to take a full charge."
I'm over it, the thing still works, but I'm pretty disappointed with it's performance.
Yeah.. like I said.. many of us been bitten by the Vision Spinner twist... many of us bought this battery thinking it would be a cool addition to collection... but yeah.. don't buy anymore... if you want to purchase a different brand battery its only too easy to come here and put the name/label in search and see what other people have posted about it... most vendors are now stuck with their stock knowing that the general public are aware/ becoming aware of the problems but they can't get refund from Vision... it's also interesting to note that DHL will no longer transport Vision batteries due to problems with them (factory had a fire issue when one exploded).. while most other brands are still good to go and DHL will carry them .. Vision has a black mark against it... You prolly don't use DHL but that is one of the most 'elite' postal companies we have here in Australia...
Yes, 'double dip' seems to be the only way to bring them up to charge... and even they they can behave poorly...
Koala Hugs from Australia.
** recently had a visiting koala in my backyard... he comes by occasionally.. it's breeding season right now so most are active and looking for a mate.. well.. the magpies didn't like the koala visiting (my dogs love the koala's cause they love to eat.... ermm... haha.. koala poo) ((don't ask.. don't.. haha)).. and the maggies are territorial so they called in a few mates and had 3 maggies harrassing this poor koala..of course the koala was making a lot of protest noises so while the dogs normally don't notice him, this time they did so they put on quite a show while the koala was barking and grunting at the maggies...also.... I've got a pair of nesting galah's in the backyard atm.. with all the commotion they decided to get in on the act and called in a few of their mates so had 6 galah's all protesting the maggies, the koala.. and the dogs.. ROFL... bloomin' noisy critters... this went on ALL day.. before the koala finally moved onto another tree....**
Yes, 'double dip' seems to be the only way to bring them up to charge... and even they they can behave poorly...
Koala Hugs from Australia.
** recently had a visiting koala in my backyard... he comes by occasionally.. it's breeding season right now so most are active and looking for a mate.. well.. the magpies didn't like the koala visiting (my dogs love the koala's cause they love to eat.... ermm... haha.. koala poo) ((don't ask.. don't.. haha)).. and the maggies are territorial so they called in a few mates and had 3 maggies harrassing this poor koala..of course the koala was making a lot of protest noises so while the dogs normally don't notice him, this time they did so they put on quite a show while the koala was barking and grunting at the maggies...also.... I've got a pair of nesting galah's in the backyard atm.. with all the commotion they decided to get in on the act and called in a few of their mates so had 6 galah's all protesting the maggies, the koala.. and the dogs.. ROFL... bloomin' noisy critters... this went on ALL day.. before the koala finally moved onto another tree....**
Well, i had that issue, all i had to do is buy a new charger, and the problem disappeared.
Just clean contact before chargin on both bat and charger...and you'r problem will disappear.
I think I found the answer to VSII charging problem. I charged my black VS2 all day yesterday and woke at 4am this morning and had green light.
Reading more on problems I seen people had to keep re plugging in to get full charge.
So after reading all the forums I went at a little different and let my charger and battery dangle down ( using laptop ) forcing cooper pins in USB to be connected. 30 mins later black VS2 showed charged. I unplugged and tried it again. 3 seconds and green again. It was charged. I plugged my red one in same way after trying to charge all day and 1 hour later it had its full charge and won't charge any more.
Now I'm happily vapping on both with Whites light since about 2pm EST.
USB ports only power at 500 mA
Reading more on problems I seen people had to keep re plugging in to get full charge.
So after reading all the forums I went at a little different and let my charger and battery dangle down ( using laptop ) forcing cooper pins in USB to be connected. 30 mins later black VS2 showed charged. I unplugged and tried it again. 3 seconds and green again. It was charged. I plugged my red one in same way after trying to charge all day and 1 hour later it had its full charge and won't charge any more.
Now I'm happily vapping on both with Whites light since about 2pm EST.
USB ports only power at 500 mA
I can't believe it... I've had my Spinner 2 for a month or so now. I've read tons of people having this exact problem and the solution seems to be just to unplug and plug back to fully charge. This NEVER HAPPENED TO ME ! Mine works perfectly and charges until the white light turns out and the LED on the charger turns green.
Also read that if you charge it on your computer, you need a proper USB port to avoid problems. I can't recall exactly what the details are. search about it. But it was something that a cheap USB port say on an older computer could be problematic.
Also read that if you charge it on your computer, you need a proper USB port to avoid problems. I can't recall exactly what the details are. search about it. But it was something that a cheap USB port say on an older computer could be problematic.
Bless all of you for your posts on this topic! I thought I had purchased a dud, but when it worked I loved it, (Just my speed kind of device). Now I'm going to 1. Buy a Vision charger. 2. Make double sure contacts are clean. 3. Use only my wall plug charger. 4. Unplug and plug back in if not full charge. 5. Buy me another one because they are dirt cheap right now. Thanks for your knowlege and shareing.
TOTAL TRASH! Vision knows this battery is seriously flawed, has promised to remedy the issue but over a year has passed and they still have not done so. Also, it has prven to be a fire hazard (DHL will not even ship them because of this), yet Vision continues to market them without addressing the issues. SHAMEFUL!
What's more, they refuse to provide refunds without making you jump through hoops. First they told me to submit a serial number which does not exist on the unit but supposedly is printed on the flimsy packaging which would naturally be discarded before realizing that there is an issue. Then they told me I would need to submit a detailed video that demonstrated the issues I was having). What a joke!
Vision is now on my BLACK LIST for such shameful behavior. This advice about "double-dipping" to get proper charging is an insult to a person's intelligence. That is Vision's solution to the problem and is even stated on their website. Can you imagine any reputable manufacturer offering such a solution instead of just fixing the problem.
Anyone offering a positive review of this battery is either extremely lucky to have a received a working battery or they have less than scrupulous motives for doing so. Most retailers are no longer offering the product and those that are should also be black-listed as well because they are well aware of the issues and are simply trying to unload their inventory on unsuspecting customers since Vision will not accept returns from them on these.
I will NEVER purchase anything marketing by Vision again...EVER!
What's more, they refuse to provide refunds without making you jump through hoops. First they told me to submit a serial number which does not exist on the unit but supposedly is printed on the flimsy packaging which would naturally be discarded before realizing that there is an issue. Then they told me I would need to submit a detailed video that demonstrated the issues I was having). What a joke!
Vision is now on my BLACK LIST for such shameful behavior. This advice about "double-dipping" to get proper charging is an insult to a person's intelligence. That is Vision's solution to the problem and is even stated on their website. Can you imagine any reputable manufacturer offering such a solution instead of just fixing the problem.
Anyone offering a positive review of this battery is either extremely lucky to have a received a working battery or they have less than scrupulous motives for doing so. Most retailers are no longer offering the product and those that are should also be black-listed as well because they are well aware of the issues and are simply trying to unload their inventory on unsuspecting customers since Vision will not accept returns from them on these.
I will NEVER purchase anything marketing by Vision again...EVER!
I have 2 and have the same issues but they don't seem too severe. But depending on how you vape and at which setting will have a lot to do with how long it lasts. I'm running a single coil on 24 g Kanthal. I chain Vape. I do good to get 6 hours on a charge. But the others here did a good job of solving the issue here. Unplug it and plug it back in, keep the connection clean, AND DON'T FORGET...Make sure you have the dial turned all the way up to 4.8 when you charge. It DOES make a difference...I know from experience.
I have two Vision Spinner 2s Been using them since August and no charging problems at all. I only charge them from a wall socket and one of the chargers did go bad - charge wouldn't start without messing with the connection. Maybe some of these issues are the chargers and not the battery? I'm also not fond of pulling constant voltage across a computer usb for charging but that's just my preference.
I've got one of these VSII's on the way. I only use a wall wart to charge anything, not a fan of plugging stuff into my computer that could cause issues. I just wonder if there are any people out there with these that don't have problems. The vocal minority usually rules reviews on the internet, not the silent majority.
OK. So I get it. You have to plug in the Spinner II battery, let it charge till it looks like it's done, then disconnect battery from charger and reconnect to charger, then let it complete the charge. Making sure all the time the batt and charger connections are cleaned. And making sure you are plugging into an AS usb adapter, not a USB port on a PC.
So I did just that when I got home from work. One of my batts had orange light (only got about 4 hours useage today from it, BTW).
I am using...
AC USB wall adapter with outout of 5V and 1.5Amps (or 1500 milliamps)
USB charer with output of 4.2V and 420 milliamps.
After batt was don charging, disonnected and reconnected. Took about 30-45 seconds to get green LED and batt light turning off. For giggles, I did that 3 times.
So I chain vaped the battery using 1.8 ohm aspire ETS at 3.3 volts. Took only 2 hours for white light to turn orange. In other words, it only took 2 hrs to use at leasst 60% of my 1600mah spinner 2 battery's charge.
Seems to me that this method did not work.
Is it becasue my USB charger needs to have a minimum output of 5V and minimum 500milliamps?
So what if I use a charger that is 750 milliamp (0.5 amps) or even 1000milliamps (1 amp) output. Would that be too much or would that be OK?
Places online and my local shop are telling me that the charger I have at 4.2V and 420millliamps is fine.
What I don;t get it, Aspire does not need to release a charger. All they have to do is post on their website the minimum output ratings must be on the charger you choose to buy/use. That's all. Why all the mystery?
Why? I'll tell you why. The spinner II is probably nothing more than a cosmetic and "WOW" factor upgrade to the ho-hum looking regular spinner model. They made it look attractive, added a few minor features, and upped the supposed output to 1600mAh. But is it really a higher end VV battery over the regular spinner? Uhhh. I have my doubts. Just more of a fashion accessory, really. That's what it's looking to be, anyway. If they won't take 2 minutes to post simply what min ratings we need on a charger after so long, something smells fishy to say the least.
By the time they release the appropriate charger or tell us what the minimum output should be for a corect charger, the next new thing will be out and no one will care because no ones really wants or uses the spinner II anymo reat the point.
All we need is a straight answer right from the horses mouth. That's all we need.
So I did just that when I got home from work. One of my batts had orange light (only got about 4 hours useage today from it, BTW).
I am using...
AC USB wall adapter with outout of 5V and 1.5Amps (or 1500 milliamps)
USB charer with output of 4.2V and 420 milliamps.
After batt was don charging, disonnected and reconnected. Took about 30-45 seconds to get green LED and batt light turning off. For giggles, I did that 3 times.
So I chain vaped the battery using 1.8 ohm aspire ETS at 3.3 volts. Took only 2 hours for white light to turn orange. In other words, it only took 2 hrs to use at leasst 60% of my 1600mah spinner 2 battery's charge.
Seems to me that this method did not work.
Is it becasue my USB charger needs to have a minimum output of 5V and minimum 500milliamps?
So what if I use a charger that is 750 milliamp (0.5 amps) or even 1000milliamps (1 amp) output. Would that be too much or would that be OK?
Places online and my local shop are telling me that the charger I have at 4.2V and 420millliamps is fine.
What I don;t get it, Aspire does not need to release a charger. All they have to do is post on their website the minimum output ratings must be on the charger you choose to buy/use. That's all. Why all the mystery?
Why? I'll tell you why. The spinner II is probably nothing more than a cosmetic and "WOW" factor upgrade to the ho-hum looking regular spinner model. They made it look attractive, added a few minor features, and upped the supposed output to 1600mAh. But is it really a higher end VV battery over the regular spinner? Uhhh. I have my doubts. Just more of a fashion accessory, really. That's what it's looking to be, anyway. If they won't take 2 minutes to post simply what min ratings we need on a charger after so long, something smells fishy to say the least.
By the time they release the appropriate charger or tell us what the minimum output should be for a corect charger, the next new thing will be out and no one will care because no ones really wants or uses the spinner II anymo reat the point.
All we need is a straight answer right from the horses mouth. That's all we need.
I have 2 of them, bought at the beginning of September this year, no real issues. I do find that if you move the cable while it's charging I have to unplug and disconnect everything and start over to get it charging/ lights working properly.
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