yeah and in general everyone is knocking off everyone so no big deal i guess, just letting people know whats going on, that happens to be from another company we used to deal with the turbine but they have had many issues before so we dont use them anymore, also we like to stick with the actual factory that started the product, vision stone and stardust with the vision company, ce2 with microcig , etc...
Wait a second here! Are you saying that the Chinese are copying other peoples products???

Wow. I am just full of it tonight.
