Vivi Nova Rebuild tutorial

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Hey guys, don't know if you can answer my question or not. But I got size 1/0 cotton wick off of ebay, and when I compare it to my size#4 yarn I got from walmart, the 1/0 seems larger in diameter. Is there a chance they could have sent me the wrong one?

Also, it seems much more dense, but seems to be wicking just fine. Vapor production seems to be lacking, but I am not sure because I have been vaping a lot lately using my phoenix rebuildables.

Don't know about the yarn sizes, but if it wicks ok but the vapor is lacking, it could be too tight at either the ato body slots or at the wick.
 

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Hey guys, don't know if you can answer my question or not. But I got size 1/0 cotton wick off of ebay, and when I compare it to my size#4 yarn I got from walmart, the 1/0 seems larger in diameter. Is there a chance they could have sent me the wrong one?

Also, it seems much more dense, but seems to be wicking just fine. Vapor production seems to be lacking, but I am not sure because I have been vaping a lot lately using my phoenix rebuildables.

I bought the same thing and have been using it. I don't care for it too much. It's really dense and I'm finding that it's not wicking well enough. I've recently switched over to plain 'ole "medicine cabinet" cotton balls and they're working and wicking great. Each cotton ball can be made into lots of wicks. I bought a 2mm screw and wrapped a couple coils, but they're not coming out as good as I'd hoped. It's easier for me to just use a really long sewing needle, place it beside my wick and wrap it like that and slide the needle out when I'm done wrapping the coil.
 

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As far as hot legs
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go, I twist
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Then I can vape in style,
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without having to worry about a rubber (grommet):evil:

I twist both legs and use the rubber grommet. Can I actually not have to use the rubber grommet ?
Am still on beginners luck here ( only done 5 rebuilds so far and surprise-they all worked good )
Big fingers and tiny parts-the less tiny parts-the better. Not sure I understand the "grounding" part of these rebuilds.
 
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I twist both legs and use the rubber grommet. Can I actually not have to use the rubber grommet ?
Am still on beginners luck here ( only done 5 rebuilds so far and surprise-they all worked good )
Big fingers and tiny parts-the less tiny parts-the better. Not sure I understand the "grounding" part of these rebuilds.

I'm pretty sure he's saying that since he twists the legs.. he doesn't have to worry about the rubber grommets burning. I'm sure the rubber grommet is needed (sorry) I've made several rebuilds (not twisting the legs) and most of them have worked rather well. I'm using one that I just twisted the legs and it seems to be working better than the rest. But then I also changed wicking material from the dense cotton (candle wick) to the airy cotton ball. But I'm going to twist my legs from now on LOL.
 

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I twist both legs and use the rubber grommet. Can I actually not have to use the rubber grommet ?
Am still on beginners luck here ( only done 5 rebuilds so far and surprise-they all worked good )
Big fingers and tiny parts-the less tiny parts-the better. Not sure I understand the "grounding" part of these rebuilds.

There has to be something that holds the positive pin on place and separates the positive terminal from negative (= ground).

If I understand your lack of understanding correctly, it is actually quite simple. Electricity goes from the button end (positive terminal) of the battery to the other end (negative = ground). If there is nothing in between to carry the electricity, nothing will flow. If the path is too easy (regular wire), it will flow too fast. The coil disturbs the path because it has resistance, and as the electricity has to fight to go through a resistance, it turns into heat. Using the body as the negative terminal and ground is just an easy way to build them.
 

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Twisted legs on coil, wrapped on 2mm shaft. Gauze pad as wick again and 2.5ohms on LT´s meter.
Testing and testing and endless chainvaping. Feeling sick :facepalm:

With twisted legs body of Nova isn´t heating up like it use to do without twisting.
Wrapping coil on shaft,pole etc just makes coil nice and even compared to "freehand" twisting straight on wick material.
 

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MikeE3, you probably have a great tool to twist legs sitting at your tying desk. I found my dubbing spinning tool works great. Nice tight twists and evenly spaced. I, too, occsionally get "hot legs" like you mentioned after a tankfull or two. So far, twisted legs seems to have solved it.

Well there ya go - double duty from that tool - cool! But don't you have to use quite a bit extra wire to use it?

I twist both legs and use the rubber grommet. Can I actually not have to use the rubber grommet ?
Am still on beginners luck here ( only done 5 rebuilds so far and surprise-they all worked good )
Big fingers and tiny parts-the less tiny parts-the better. Not sure I understand the "grounding" part of these rebuilds.

Hi there 'old hippy' - been awhile since I've run into ya. Hope all is going well at the homestead.
 

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Hi there 'old hippy' - been awhile since I've run into ya. Hope all is going well at the homestead.
Garden still doing it's thing and the leaves are falling everywhere-turning 70 knocked the brain out of focus for a bit-kind of fell off the wagon for a bit, but learning to rebuild has given something besides WORK to keep going again.
on the grounding thing-yes. I did think the rubber grommet was important.
'oh, and I just ordered the "helper hand" thingy that you all use, plus out here in the boonies, had to order the bamboo from the internet-can't wait for this stuff to come.
Also, did you get the 20% off notice on vaping zones super concentrate, for this weekend?
 

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Sorry. I should have been more specific. I use the hook style, not the double wire style. A staightened paper clip with a small hook bent into the end should work also.

Gotcha! I forgot about the 'basics'. Might have to pull it 'outta' the box and give it a try.
 

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Also, did you get the 20% off notice on vaping zones super concentrate, for this weekend?

Are there many DIY juice mixers here. I ask because the only flavoring I have used is TPA (The Perfumers Apprentice) at $5 an ounce and I mix it approximately 15%. That Super Concentrate from VZ at 2.5% would be quite a bargain if it is at the top of the pyramid for quality and flavor.

Have had no experience with Alcohol as a carrier, seems it would evaporate off and just leave flavoring in the VG or PG mix which seems like a good idea as TPA uses PG as a carrier and I use straight VG except for what's in the flavoring.

Has anyone tried different flavoring to be able to make a comparison between some of the top sellers including VZs mix?

Realize this is off topic and it's fine if you link me to an appropriate thread, to keep this one pure. :)

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Are there many DIY juice mixers here. I ask because the only flavoring I have used is TPA (The Perfumers Apprentice) at $5 an ounce and I mix it approximately 15%. That Super Concentrate from VZ at 2.5% would be quite a bargain if it is at the top of the pyramid for quality and flavor.

Have had no experience with Alcohol as a carrier, seems it would evaporate off and just leave flavoring in the VG or PG mix which seems like a good idea as TPA uses PG as a carrier and I use straight VG except for what's in the flavoring.

Has anyone tried different flavoring to be able to make a comparison between some of the top sellers including VZs mix?

Realize this is off topic and it's fine if you link me to an appropriate thread, to keep this one pure. :)

Errol
vaping zone and the super concentrates are excellent. I have dozens And more dozens of all the top flavoring brands, but rarely use them anymore.
Just treated myself to a huge order today with vaping zones sale.

they have free shipping also.' To stay on topic though- wish they carried the vivi mini's, but the sale is only on all their liquids.
 
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& here is the heat element isolator itself [side the slips into the Vivi head.] Its an old image, of the exact one I just vaped on :vapor:
3 holes to prevent tangled legs!
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Coming Soon .. tutorial images shall be taken on rebuild.

Mister, are you still planning to post this tutorial? I ordered some of the Bauway ce4's and am curious if the ceramic cup just fits down into the vivi nova head? I rebuilt my first coil around #1/0 square braided cotton wick. VTF is ok but I catch a bit of heat or harshness from the coil it seems. Perhaps due to the top coil and I'm used to carto/tanks. Even on the stock VVN heads... it irritates my throat after vaping for extended periods. I was hoping the ceramic might tame that some.

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old hippy, I use the rubber grommet. WindLvr uses & recommended these: 510 Threaded Connector Insulators - Avid Vaper. I do twist the legs, but doing that only halves the resistance. (two one inch twisted 32 a1 kanthal.)
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Halved resistance is not red hot, but it's still warm & warm rubber has an odor & taste, I could do without. That avidvaper insulator appears to be non rubber based & hopefully a non odoriferous high temp silicone :p

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Mister, are you still planning to post this tutorial?

I just took the images today, it is going to be a somewhat :laugh: high def image tutorial. It will take me a day or two to put it together.
I have not ever done a tutorial before & am an air head often, but I think if all the images came out & I do not rush to post it, then it should be something that I hope others can follow & modify to what works for them. I am sure there will be questions & I will try to give answers quickly.

I apologize for my slowness. I do not write often nor well. I must now get some sleep, for I be MIST E eyed tired
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I have not ever done a tutorial before & am an air head often, but I think if all the images came out & I do not rush to post it, then it should be something that I hope others can follow & modify to what works for them.

That sounds fine Mister. No hurry mate, I have my new china DID replica to occupy my attention in the meantime. In fact, I'm off to Tractor Supply in search of a 12ml syringe to make a tank for it. Thanks for the reply.
 

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While we wait for MISTer E to pull together what I am sure will be a stellar presentation on how to do this, I rolled up my sleeves and spent way too much time to get this:

I incorporated SS mesh and used bamboo...







Full props to MISTer E for design and concept (with side props to mrelwood for his SS tube) ...that Bauway CE4 has a lot of useful parts!
 

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old hippy, I use the rubber grommet. WindLvr uses & recommended these: 510 Threaded Connector Insulators - Avid Vaper.

Those are supposed to fit in the battery's 510 terminal. I don't think they would fit to replace the rubber gromet inside the Vivi Nova. I use twisted legs on the coils also, and I can't recognize any rubber taste with them.

I'm now going to try a thinner #325 SS tube just for kicks. My reasoning is that the SS in this application doesn't need to wick, it only needs to let the juice through from the wick to the coil. I would think the rougher #325 would do that as well, or perhaps even better. And the #500 is a bit more difficult to handle than #400 or #325. I'll let you know how it turns out in a while...
 

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While we wait for MISTer E to pull together what I am sure will be a stellar presentation on how to do this, I rolled up my sleeves and spent way too much time to get this:

I incorporated SS mesh and used bamboo...

Full props to MISTer E for design and concept (with side props to mrelwood for his SS tube) ...that Bauway CE4 has a lot of useful parts!

Does the ceramic cup just sit in the tube?

And are you just using the VN's top cup to make the seal unmodified when fully assembled for vapin'?
 

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Here we go. 11mm x 5mm of #325 SS, otherwise the same structure: 1.9 ohm 2mm coil, SS wrapped loosely on a 1.5mm nail, 26 threads of cotton.

After the initial "oh-my-god-look-at-this-vape-cos-you-can't-see-anything-else" reaction, the performance seemed to drop off somehow. It now feels a bit like a thicker SS tube that takes a few seconds to warm up. The ato feels a bit tired somehow, like the #500 does after 6ml. Don't quite know the physics of it, but this is not the right direction. While it is still a good vape, it's not marvellous as with the #500. It seems to like higher voltages, longer puffs and stronger sucking better than the #500, but I'd like to go the other way.

Will try #400 next, or 1cm of #500.
 
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