now u r talking...
whats on your mind David...?
please let all p+heads know...
paris from greece...
whats on your mind David...?
please let all p+heads know...
paris from greece...
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Awesome. Waiting -- not so -- patiently.
FWIW, I have never had Vivi Nova tank worth with either precise I own, doesn't work with the Kicklet either. The problem isn't airflow, it's that the center pin on the Vivi isn't long enough to make a connection and no matter what I've tried to make it work by fiddling with the Vivi, it hasn't. Which means almost nothing, because the next run of Vivi's or the next Vivi knock-off, make work just fine. In the end I didn't really care enough to pursue it much, and used up the Vivis I had with a ProVari. I know many people love 'em, but for me the Vivi Nova wasn't really a life-changing experience and I'm just not gonna bother with 510 to 510 extender caps or anything else to Make it Work.
is what i have pretty much decided... the vivi is the first tank i got, and was just curious of a way to make it work.
But the precise as a device is far better than any tank i would think of getting.
now as soon as david comes out with a tank, I will be right there with cash in hand
But the precise as a device is far better than any tank i would think of getting.
now as soon as david comes out with a tank, I will be right there with cash in hand
I'm with you...I have stockpiled quit a bit of Nova's, both Full size and Mini's.
I'm really hoping the caps will be available soon (like those incorporated into the "new and improved" Precise line)
Those seem like they would work, as opposed to the "Kicklet" style ?????
i hope they work. Are they life changing, no but for the price the vivi cant be beat (at least to me). Maybe they will work fine with my new precise, who knows. They work fine with wifeys provari and with my gg, but it does have an adjustable center pin so that may be why. I have the ones from vision, and they are slightly different from the knock offs, so who knows. Ive got to factor everything in and make a decision based on what works for myself and my wife. I dont profess that the vivi is the greatest thing out there, just that with all the factors considered, it works for me. I hope they work with the p+, if they dont then ill have a decision to make. Didnt mean to rub anyone the wrong way, was just having a conversation about what does and doesnt work.
FWIW Thatick, it's just completely hit and miss with the Vivi Novas on the P+. My wife has a dozen or so vivi novas and mini vivis and I have a couple. I bought a new flat top, no slot P16 and 4 of the 14 novas will fire on it but only one sits high enough to get airflow. I also bought a used flat top, no slot p+ 18350 for my wife and all of the vivi novas work on it, although some are bit tight on the draw.
Vivi novas are nice because they are easy to rebuild and clean and swap flavors as you know but have horrible quality control on the 510 connections. No consistency from one to another. You may get lucky tho and have them all work fine like my wife's does.
Vivi novas are nice because they are easy to rebuild and clean and swap flavors as you know but have horrible quality control on the 510 connections. No consistency from one to another. You may get lucky tho and have them all work fine like my wife's does.
Heres some pictures to illustrate. The problem is, some Tank and Rebuildable atomizer builders are just taking the connector specs off atomizers/catomizers, which are fine for a thin atomizer, but for a tank which overhangs, its too short and they aren't taking this into account.
As you can see with the Pic below, the atomizer bottom sits just about at flush with the flat of the top cap, perfect for airflow and aesthetics. Where some manufactures are running into problems, is they are just basing their tank/rba connector lengths off atomizer connector lengths which is too short.
As you can see, that length connector won't work as tanks overhang, so they'll either bottom out on the flat of the cap before making connection with the center post, or make connection, but be so close to the cap, they block airflow:
The Solution as you can see illustrated on my Kicklet Pic, is to add approximately .015 thousandths length over atomizer connector lengths, which will lift the tank up slightly off the cap accomplishing both proper connection and maintaining proper air flow:
bumpit....
Sounds like their center post lengths vary from vivi to vivi, which is unfortunate.
What I can do for those who love vivi's is press in the P+ center post ten thousandths higher. Keep in mind this will make existing tanks and atomizers that work fine sit a bit higher and not flush.
I'm going to publish blueprints Wednesday as shared public information on connector specs for manufacturers and hobbyists to use when designing a 510 connector that will make tanks/rbas compatible with the P+ and 99% of mods out there.
If you already have a unit you want the pin height adjusted on for vivis, send unit and 5 dollars for return postage to:
Super T
Box 331
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379
If you have an order pending, send an email to: supertmanufacturing@yahoo.com titled "vivi adaption" if you want me to set up the center post for vivi's
What I can do for those who love vivi's is press in the P+ center post ten thousandths higher. Keep in mind this will make existing tanks and atomizers that work fine sit a bit higher and not flush.
I'm going to publish blueprints Wednesday as shared public information on connector specs for manufacturers and hobbyists to use when designing a 510 connector that will make tanks/rbas compatible with the P+ and 99% of mods out there.
If you already have a unit you want the pin height adjusted on for vivis, send unit and 5 dollars for return postage to:
Super T
Box 331
Sauk Rapids, MN 56379
If you have an order pending, send an email to: supertmanufacturing@yahoo.com titled "vivi adaption" if you want me to set up the center post for vivi's
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Thats fine and much appreciated. VERY much appreciated. I'll buy new caps also, when avail...
The Vivi's are coming along way, and the new ones actually will look quit respectable on the P+'s....
The Vivi's are coming along way, and the new ones actually will look quit respectable on the P+'s....
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sound like a plan to me!! 
sort of crazy that its just ten thousandths of an inch.
sort of crazy that its just ten thousandths of an inch.
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It is crazy, so small that it seems like it shouldn't make a difference
So far not a huge tank person anyways so it isn't a huge deal
My fav set up is a atty with a vapemate. Best of both worlds. AND don't get a mouthful of juice after the tank has been laying on its side all night.
What a way to wake up
So far not a huge tank person anyways so it isn't a huge deal
My fav set up is a atty with a vapemate. Best of both worlds. AND don't get a mouthful of juice after the tank has been laying on its side all night.
What a way to wake up
This is similar to what I did. I used a diamond burr and cross slotted the bottom of the vivi tank. It works great. Still trying to get the vivi tank to work well with a ss mesh wick...
Still waiting and saving...right now my favorite vape is my cheap DID clones with a ~1.4 ohm coil. Really looking forward to the official Super-T genesis tank thingy.
Dave. I just recieved and polished up my 18350 and love it as I have your other devices we have purchased. I have a question about the locking button which is great accept for the fact that it turns making it a huge hassle to lock on the go. Is there a way to make that sucker not turn?
Congrats on your new P+! On the button, no, its a full floating design, line it up and click it!
David, is the vivi adaption reversible (by u of course)? I have my existing order set for the vivi adaption, but i want to see how it works and looks before i order some of the DIY P+, just not sure when ill get my existing order. Dont want to miss out on the DIY, but not sure if i should have them adapted or not. So many decisions, LOL
Kinda know what you mean. A cap that is Nova friendly, and one per spec, would be the best of both worlds...
Yes. I machined a new depth block for pressing in the center post, all P+'s going out as of yesterday will be approximately .010 thousandths higher on the installed center post height, which should cure most connection problems. Can't guarantee it will cure them all until the tank manufacturers take note that using atomizer connector specs on tanks makes them a bit too short since tanks can't recesss down in like an atomizer and have overhang so they need to be a bit longer.
thanks dave, sorry we causing you so much trouble, but we really do appreciate all the time and effort you and your team are putting in!! So if im reading this right all p+ will have the adaption? Prob a good decision until the tank manufacturers get their stuff straight.
And once we have the strata, none of this other stuff will matter
And once we have the strata, none of this other stuff will matter
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