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Neon

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Hey everyone,

I just made my first batch of no nic Menthol, and it contains %80 VG, %20 Vodake, and a couple of good sized USP Menthol crystals. Great vapor production ! Great menthol taste! the atty I tried it in was almost 2 months old and it vaped like a champ, you can adjust the thickness of the juice by adding more VG/PG but I find that if i mix it a bit thinner than commercial juices, it vapes way better, nice clear juice, no vodka taste at all !!

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just remember TRUE GOOD WODKA is any WODKA made from potatoes (the original recipe) any Vodka made from wheat has too much of a medicine industrial taste to it. Stoli has this kind of taste. an awesome Wodka that's all potato is Chopin....makes ya feel like a real Cossack ;) even though Chopin is named after the Polish composer.....yepper....Wodka actually hails from Poland....don't let the Bolsheviks fool ya ;)

actually any booze made from wheat is
Gówno prawda

<lol> vaping booze to me is more like vaping a 'lil bit of NASCAR.....olllllllllddddd time NASCAR.

~jeff
 

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lmao.......now I know why the vodka seems to be working so good......my judgement has been impaired!

In the quantity you put in, I imagine it won't impair you, but you can't compare oz. for oz. in drinking, and inhaling alcohol. It would hit the bloodstream quicker by inhalation. There was a product on the market that would allow you to inhale alcohol, which has been banned in most places. Apart from being dangerous, it was also very expensive and it did not require much alcohol in order to work. Saying that, I am also not sure in our PV's that much if any alcohol reaches the bloodstream at all when vapourised.

Anyone know what happens when alcohol is vapourised at the temperature our atty's reach?
 

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In the quantity you put in, I imagine it won't impair you, but you can't compare oz. for oz. in drinking, and inhaling alcohol. It would hit the bloodstream quicker by inhalation. There was a product on the market that would allow you to inhale alcohol, which has been banned in most places. Apart from being dangerous, it was also very expensive and it did not require much alcohol in order to work. Saying that, I am also not sure in our PV's that much if any alcohol reaches the bloodstream at all when vapourised.

Anyone know what happens when alcohol is vapourised at the temperature our atty's reach?

That device you mentioned is called a brandy pipe, and it was made of blown glass...a pretty thing, but not cheap. I used to have one, and it was somewhat popular about 20 years ago. You put brandy or cognac in the bowl, and then inhale the vapor through a mouth piece. You could get seriously buzzed off of a couple mL of liquor, since it goes right into the bloodstream through the lungs without any gut metabolism, and right to the brain. It was not a good or fun buzz though. Way too narcotic and numbing, almost like general anesthesia.

Alcohol put into juices to thin them is most certainly being absorbed the same way. The atty vaporizes all contents of a juice, including alcohol, without changing the compounds at all, just turning them from liquid to gas. Alcohol is not "burned off". You are definitely getting it. Whether or not you actually feel its effects depends on you, your tolerance for alcohol, how much you drink normally anyway, etc. But make no mistake, the fact is you are absorbing much of it. Some of course is exhaled, but just like the VG, PG, nic, and flavors, the alcohol is getting vaped.

I was using 10% 100-proof vodka to thin my VG juices. I do not drink except on very rare occasions, since I am very sensitive to alcohol. One beer is a big buzz for me, and my professional life (chemistry, computers, programming) and my recreational life (martial arts, including live sword play) require that I have a 100% sober mind. I certainly felt the effects of the 10% vodka in my juices. I was slightly dizzy and without equilibrium, could not concentrate on my work, and my martial arts were clearly being affected. I switched from vodka to distilled water to thin the juices, and all those symptoms disappeared right away. Until I figured out it was the vodka thinner, I thought I had the flu or some weird neuro problem.

Not saying everyone will feel these effects, and many people here thin with alcohol, like PGA or vodka or even 151 rum, without any affects from it. Like sensitivity to drinking alcohol is different of everyone, so this this, I think. But there is zero doubt that you are absorbing inhaled alcohol if you include it in a juice recipe. I also found that it dried my mouth out a LOT, and this problem was also solved by using distilled water instead.

This has been discussed in other threads. Some here are very concerned about this because they are recovering alcoholics or cannot have any alcohol in their system at all. And then again, some have flamed me for fear mongering about this, and that there couldn't possibly be any basis to what I say. Those people simply do not understand the chemistry or physiology of inhalants at all.

Also, potato vodka is certainly delicious, especially frozen, but I would not use it for thinning a juice, since its deliciousness is from starches and polysaccarides, which over time will cause atty problems because they do not evaporate well.
 

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So I added a few drops of everclear to a few mLs of juice and tried it - it made the juice less thick and it vapes about the same.

This is exactly what I use vodka in my mixes for. I've both had ordered juice and DIY mixes that were too thick to work properly in my KR8 cartos. In the thick state, the liquid doesn't wick properly, and leads to subpar vapor and flavor, and burns out the carto more quickly. Adding approximately 5-10% to a thick juice improves the flavor and vapor due solely to allowing the juice to wick. In a pure standpoint(like dipping) it would likely reduce flavor and vapor, and add a bit of throat hit.
 

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That device you mentioned is called a brandy pipe, and it was made of blown glass...a pretty thing, but not cheap. I used to have one, and it was somewhat popular about 20 years ago. You put brandy or cognac in the bowl, and then inhale the vapor through a mouth piece. You could get seriously buzzed off of a couple mL of liquor, since it goes right into the bloodstream through the lungs without any gut metabolism, and right to the brain. It was not a good or fun buzz though. Way too narcotic and numbing, almost like general anesthesia.

interesting! i wonder if there's many people still into this hobby?
 

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interesting! i wonder if there's many people still into this hobby?

I agree with the previous poster, that these pipes have been banned. Haven't seen them in ages. Got mine, believe it or not, at a china and crystal shop, displayed along with champaign flutes. I think the FDA killed them. That should say a lot about their effectiveness, since drinking alcohol is not even close to banned. I wouldn't call it a hobby unless you made your own (back in the day...ah, the days of pyrex and a bunsen burner...). It would be like calling napping a hobby. Or ether huffing a hobby.

I was talking with someone who vapes the other day. He also had a brandy pipe a long time ago. I asked him, suppose you take 1 mL of PGA, and put it in a brandy pipe (One could go through 1 mL of PGA vaping at 20% in a juice). How long would it take to inhale all that in the pipe?

His immediate response was "You wouldn't get through it. You would be too wasted." Of course, you would need to vape 5 mL of juice if it was 20% PGA to get a mL, and that would be over a very long and determined day of vaping, but I think I make my point.

If you don't feel any effects, I envy you, as you are getting better vaping all round. But the effect was too much for me, and water does well enough...certainly vapes well, and gives a good TH. I'm vaping a 12 mg juice right now with it, and every hit is one of those hello-there THs...you know the ones that make you sort of go wow, that was a good one.

Also, and this might have been already seen in this thread, alcohol can dissolve the adhesives in the atty...why I don't clean with PGA anymore. It could be that added alcohol will shorten atty life. Exo, your take on this?
 

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just remember TRUE GOOD WODKA is any WODKA made from potatoes (the original recipe) any Vodka made from wheat has too much of a medicine industrial taste to it. Stoli has this kind of taste. an awesome Wodka that's all potato is Chopin....makes ya feel like a real Cossack ;) even though Chopin is named after the Polish composer.....yepper....Wodka actually hails from Poland....don't let the Bolsheviks fool ya ;)

actually any booze made from wheat is
Gówno prawda

<lol> vaping booze to me is more like vaping a 'lil bit of NASCAR.....olllllllllddddd time NASCAR.

~jeff


My GF's parents have a cabin up north and there's a bar we go to owned by a guy from Poland. He always pulls out this homemade Potato Vodka that makes everyone have a good night who drinks it..
 
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