Voltage Mods is Risky!!!

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LittleBird

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How much am I allowed to post on a thread? Anyone know?

Soulskin, you can post as many times as you wish. The issue isn't with how much, but with what. Please take a few minutes to review the rules to which you agreed when you registered for ECF. Then, perhaps you can send a private message to a mod if you don't understand the message you received ...
 

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Wow...thanx for he replies mates, I cant comment on the subject further tho as a moderator sent me a warning for spamming/trolling/forcing opinion for this post. Very odd as I thought forums are for discussions not post and shut up. Or maybe this post was offensive, sorry if it was tho.

Creating multiple threads and going around to other threads spreading the same misinformation is not permitted. Again, do your due diligence and check your facts.
 

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Beware of Voltage mode mates, high volts and temperatures releases formaldehyde-compounds which increases your risk to cancer up to 5 - 15 times more than long term cigarette smoking. Look it up...and be carefull guys.

Thanks for the insight mate. I always knew that tobacco smoking is safer than vaping. No explodes in you pockets, no formaldehyde, just natural organic leafs. It's like breathing ozone compare to vaping. Just what the doctor ordered.
 

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There is a GC MS trace on this forum, check it for yourself, I do GC analysis for a living, so my facts aren't as out as you might think. And I didn't bad mouth Ecigs, just a post with a fact that people obviously didn't like, but they keep replying so i'm not pushing the fact, just explaining why I created the thread. Now i'm basically getting spammed with sarcasm.
 

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Did you read the thread Victor! It's said if you mod, but past that point mate. I'm sure if you threw Acid in your Ecig it'll still be safer, you the expert it seems.

If you are so worried may be it is best for you to quit vaping?
Just for comparison sake: i am not worried about formaldehyde, I keep vaping.
 

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Well mate I have a GC trace, and I working with GC's for 9 years, with an accurate method, correct retention times and temperatures that also shows, benzenaline, toluene with a lot of other peaks boiling off at a ramp rate of 11°C/min up to nicotine at a max temp of 35°C. But besides that I was just mentioning that people should be cafefull when modding theyr equipment, but they way people jump on how wrong I am gives me no doubt about the addictivity of the habit or nicotine. I was trying to help not trying to advise anyone to stop vaping.
 

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Well mate I have a GC trace, and I working with GC's for 9 years, with an accurate method, correct retention times and temperatures that also shows, benzenaline, toluene with a lot of other peaks boiling off at a ramp rate of 11°C/min up to nicotine at a max temp of 35°C. But besides that I was just mentioning that people should be cafefull when modding theyr equipment, but they way people jump on how wrong I am gives me no doubt about the addictivity of the habit or nicotine. I was trying to help not trying to advise anyone to stop vaping.

have you tried a Provari?
 

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Well mate I have a GC trace, and I working with GC's for 9 years, with an accurate method, correct retention times and temperatures that also shows, benzenaline, toluene with a lot of other peaks boiling off at a ramp rate of 11°C/min up to nicotine at a max temp of 35°C. But besides that I was just mentioning that people should be cafefull when modding theyr equipment, but they way people jump on how wrong I am gives me no doubt about the addictivity of the habit or nicotine. I was trying to help not trying to advise anyone to stop vaping.

Ref to: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...480-temperature-future-digital-vaping-17.html

Also, w/ the exception of flavorings, I don't see how toluene can be synthesized from PG+nicotine alone. Actually, looking at molecular structures, it'd seem, while not impossible, basically impossible. You'd have to isolate the aromatic ring from nicotine (which'd be hard), convert the pyridine (5C+N) to a benzene (all C), AND add a methyl group. That, under most circumstances (and pretty much every circumstance we'd encounter) is impossible. While adding to the ring is do-able, replacing a Nitrogen for a carbon is like ridonkulous. The core aromatic ring, w/ delocalized electrons and all, are super stable. If there are contaminants, then maybe you'd find it and other chemicals. But that'd be an issue w/ the supplier. And studies so far have shown no such contaminants (that new one where scientists were "WOWED" by the lack of toxins (rather, the equivalent amount of toxins as in a breath) or Farsalinos' studies)

W/r/t flavorings, a few vendors do list the compounds and molecules. From a glance at TFA's site, I haven't seen mention of any toxic chemicals.

All that to say, your GC (which I'll assume's for gas chromotography) might be ...off? (unless you were just talking about potential for exposure IF said toxins were found). Or like you really need to find a new supplier. Or clean the gear you have (machine oils?)

The zeal w/r/t vaping likely isn't due to the "addictivity of the habit or nicotine." It's probably more the current and potential future state of affairs- the general consensus with policy makers and the public w/r/t vaping based of dis-information, either intentional (cigarette lobby? disingenuous politicians?) or unintentional (studies concluding danger despite flawed methodology) Vaping isn't smoking and shouldn't be considered as such (let alone taxed as such [eg Chicago's "sin tax" (not sure if vapings lumped there since I started vaping after I moved away, but I wouldn't be surprised)])
 

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It was a misunderstanding more than anything I think. He was not saying don't vape. He was saying be careful. Based either off of the bogus studies or on his own tests.

The reaction he is getting from people who are sick of hearing the attacks based on said bogus studies makes sense. But I don't think it was the work of a troll.

So take a nice big lunger and relax. :)
 

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Points have been made, and since this is going downhill quickly, it's now closed.

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