Vuse using some sort of plastic wick material
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Theres a bill every yr to make suppliments illegal so bp can make vit C a prescribed product.
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Not being argumentative but who says they really spent millions to develop this product? I mean would it take millions for you or I to put another cart-based cigalike on the market if we wanted?
Not that I truly believe this but in the back of my mind I suspect BT would be more than willing to take down the e-cigarette market by introducing a product that would be a public failure/hazard.
I still get RJReynolds coupons, so I tried my 3 free cartridges. Never a dry hit at all. But that's helped by puff-count cutoff as well. I cracked open my first "empty" cart and it still was half full of liquid. For $3+, you should at least get to use all of it! They just want someone to switch from a $7 PAD smoker to $6.50 2-cartridges-a-day vaper (+$10 for a battery every once in a while)
Also, RJR has a notorious reputation even amongst big tobacco. They add proprietary chemical blends to their tobacco and spray their paper with the stuff which makes their smokes extra addictive(but also flavorful), however, most big tobacco companies do this too. I've seen estimates that Marlboro and Camel contain around 10,000 times the naturally occuring nicotine than in unprocessed tobacco.
I mainly smoked American Spirit before vaping and I remember the changes after they got bought out by RJR. The boxes used to say "100% additive free cigarette" and after RJR it was "100% additive free tobacco" because they just sprayed the stuff on the paper. Anyways, I mainly rolled my own American Spirit after that with glue-free/ chemical free paper.
Sorry for the rant against RJR, but they suck. Who know's what stuff they put in their liquid? I heard it tests at 49mg nicotine.
"If you want to keep your cotton wick, you can keep your cotton wick".
Ya, right, :?(
Ya, right, :?(
I'm not advocating for Vuse e-cigs. However, they were my first foray into the smokeless nicotine world. To tell the truth, I never had a problem with them except for the overall cost (I could really care less about the taste, although I preferred Vuse menthol to Vuse tobacco), and I have to admit that my using them was largely based on the RJR campaign for standards, suggesting to me that they would be willing to do a full disclosure of content analysis. I had used about 15 Vuse carts, before I went to blending my own juice and using a standard 'beginner's' delivery system. I'm rather atypical in the vaping world in that I was cigarette/smoke free for over 40 years when I decided to vape for therapeutic reasons (see the thread I started on therapeutic effects of vaping in the New Users Forum, just search for 'mosspa'). While their 45-50mg content may be a lot for vapers who are trying to quit 'smoking', it was ideal for my purposes, and my current juice blend contains 50mg nicotine, since, when I started rolling my own, I was trying to replicate the dose of nicotine I was, presumably, getting when I was using the Vuse product. Again, I'm not suggesting that anybody use Vuse, just that I don't think the product is as bad (except for cost) as many vaping 'zealots' make it out to be.
I have had enough additives to last me a lifetime. The problem with .gov is they overcontrol everything and ruin it. As long as money is involved by tptb you will lose.
Yes a successful company that is losing money hand over fist daily will do whatever they can.
Losing Money Now? Sure.
Losing Money once FDA Regulations are in Place? Hmmm?
Funny how things like Profits and Loses are sometimes Only viewed in the Short Term. Whereas BT is the Undisputed Master of the Long Game.
When FDA regs are in place they will do exactly what they want. That is make money. Isn't that the only game left in this country. At one time we had families, decent people with morals, good paying jobs. The only thing left is greed and it is destroying this country from the inside out.
I am not sure how companies owned by shareholders whose sole purpose is to make money for the shareholders could be considered greedy. In a capitalist system there is no such thing as greed when it comes to earnings...Not many companies are in the business of breaking even...
Well when you no longer have a job in this country because the companies save so much money by moving to other countries with slave labor, maybe you will think twice. Oh yes there is greed here just open your eyes.
Cost of labor isn't even a factor in the field I work in. Quality is everything and our customers are willing to pay for it... I blame the consumer for buying offshore goods, not the companies who make and sell them...
Where is your mod made?
I'm with ya steve as a libertarian and classical liberal. But in our version of modern capitalism driven by so much intervention and artificial supports in the macro-economics it becomes a very hard principle to survive on for creators or anyone. In the absence of real free market ideals perverted imbalances such as we're seeing with China thrive. It's not any more sustainable than the artificial currency/s we exchange. And neither is any expectation of predictability. We have become Rome. What must follow?
Here's another thing that concerns me. Do they vape in China?
Good luck.
p.s. Nice running into you again steve.
I'm with ya steve as a libertarian and classical liberal. But in our version of modern capitalism driven by so much intervention and artificial supports in the macro-economics it becomes a very hard principle to survive on for creators or anyone. In the absence of real free market ideals perverted imbalances such as we're seeing with China thrive. It's not any more sustainable than the artificial currency/s we exchange. And neither is any expectation of predictability. We have become Rome. What must follow?
Here's another thing that concerns me. Do they vape in China?
Good luck.
p.s. Nice running into you again steve.
True. The field of play isn't fair, but ultimately, I don't believe we are not Rome. We have become misguided in our love of acquiring things, however cheaply made and disposable. There are those of us, however, who value well made things, and many who have become tired of disposable things.
Oddly, I don't think there are many vapers in China...
You, as well.
Uuug and here I used to praise the Vuse. Originally I tried Mark Ten. I hated it. I tried Vuse about a year later. It convinced me I could give up cigs. I actually liked how it hit and loved the menthol. But after seeing this. Well I can no longer praise the wick. I think it is time to take apart some other cartos of cigalikes and see what their like inside.
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