VV Confusion - Who Will Save The Day!!!! (warning - lengthy question)

[MusicIsMySoul]

Thank you all in advance for reading this!!! I also apologize in advance for my possible incorrect terminology!

My Brief Story: I got into vaping back in January to help me knock this horrible analog habit. It was a GREAT success!! I quit successfully for 3 months and was vaping with 0 nicotine. I started my journey at a local store that sells Vapes and Juices, great way to introduce me into the scene. I didn't mind paying 3x the price to support a local company until they sold me a faulty product and didn't provide sufficient customer service. I decided to hunt the internet. My original in store purchase was a standard basic ego battery like this eGo Electronic Cigarette Battery | eCig Replacement Batteries for eGo Electronic Cigarette | Long Lasting Quality eCig Batteries with a bottom coil clearomizer like this one kanger t3 clearomizer ireland galway.


Further Into The Story: After an internet purchase of higher ohm replacement coils for my clearomizer (I believe 2.4) I wasn't getting a good hit (I still haven't been able to figure out what voltage my original eGo battery is) and eventually got frustrated and now I'm back to my analog habit... BUT I'M READY TO GIVE IT ANOTHER SHOT!!! However, despite being mechanically inclined and even being interested in electronics, researching the internet for hours, and viewing all the charts, I'm having some trouble figuring out exactly the right things to order, and an easy to understand website with reasonable prices. So far I've found GotVapes.com to have decent prices and a user friendly interface.


Down To The Question: I've decided I want to switch to VV so I can maximize my experience and hopefully quit for good. From my understanding VVs are good for organic style and VG juices. So far the only VV that I've found with everything I want (pass through capabilities, a high mAh, easy to use) is the 6 Volt Ego VV Mega seen here: SLB eGo-V v2 MEGA 1200mah PassThrough eGo 3.0-6.0v OLED - BLACK [gv-SLBeGo-VMEGA-BLACK] - $35.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more. What I'm really having issues with is figuring out if I need a higher ohm coil (2.4 is the highest I've found for the bottom coil, Kanger I think it's called) and If I'll burn them out faster with the higher voltage? Is this dangerous? If anyone can tell me what they recommend for a first time VV-er I would much appreciate it before I purchase the wrong things. I'm hoping some one has some experience with the Ego VV Mega and which types of clearomizers/coils/tanks are supposed to go with higher voltage batteries. I've read a couple articles on "understanding ohms" etc but I still can't wrap my head around it, and it's really overwhelming, not to mention the amount of time I've spent trying to piece it all together. A small mentioning, I'm not really fond of the wicky style tanks, or the "e-cig" style cartomizers (I think they look goofy on the larger batteries).

THANK YOU FOR READING!!!

 

[Dakota Jim]

My 1st recommendation would be VV/VW device (see link below for a great deal on one with a great set of batteries and charger)- VW (variable wattage) is more of a set and forget device if you do start using other devices (clear's tanks etc) otherwise ther is a few good volt, ohm, wattage charts out there - most peoples ideal vape is between 6 an 8 watts

The device you are looking to get is a good device for VV but remember it will still only have a 250-300 charge cycle life and will need to be replaced eventually where as if you get Vamo, Provari ($$$) or any other device that you charge the batteries separate, you only need to get replacement batteries (currently just over $10 for 2 at same site)

hope this info helps

volt/ohms/watts chart (sorry about the useless size of this chart - when I relocate the original link I will add it)



Here is link to slightly different chart (thanks, Baditude)

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg


$53.33 Vamo-Vivi Stainless Steel Voltage Adjustable E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Set - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Panasonic CGR18650CH 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[AttyPops]

The whole point of VV (or VW for that matter) is to be able to adjust it. So you would normally select middle-of-the-road ohms, like the 2.4, and be able to adjust voltage/wattage up/down from there.

Here's a (long) post we're working on in another thread. It's a total draft right now, but will help you a bit:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/lounge/322639-snails-response-threads-1894.html#post9683119

Ignore the rest of the thread and be warned that it's a draft. Hope you like reading

 

[killjoyken]

I've found the easiest way is to get a VW (variable wattage) mod like a Vamo or eVic. You can set the watts and the mod will adjust the voltage to whatever resistance coil you have. Personally I tend to set my Kanger Protank and cartotanks to 7.5 watts, so it doesn't matter what ohms the coils are because the mod automatically adjusts to that wattage. No need for charts or apps. My friends have all moved up to Provaris and don't mind fiddling with adjustments. For me, I'd rather just slap on a tank and vape.

The Kanger Protank has worked well for me as long as I remove one or two of the extra "flavor wicks" from the top of the coil or rebuild the coil with cotton. I also like cartotanks like the ones from IBTanked.com. More expensive than the Protank and not as easy to fill, but the cartomizers seem to last longer. And with the tank they don't run dry and give you that burnt taste.

 

[Jwaterski]

My two cents, I just use an ego twist with a kanger protank. I'm still new but this has worked for me and is relatively easy. I'm not much into even cleaning the heads let alone rebuilding them. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace, last a week or so. I do usually rinse them once or twice to get a few more days out of them but once performance drops off I put in a new one and happily vape away.

 

[Rader2146]

Here's a (long) post we're working on in another thread. It's a total draft right now, but will help you a bit:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/lounge/322639-snails-response-threads-1894.html#post9683119

Great write-up, AttyPops.

I'd be happy to help out to see it to completion. Just let me know where help is needed.

 

[wv2win]

I would get a variable watt VW model like the Vamo or Zmax instead. VW has advantages over VV. The Vamo has a 5 amp switch allowing you to use almost any head on the market. Better batteries that last twice as long and cost half as much, so you save money, also. And it cost $27 - $39.

 

[bfitz]

I second (or third, lost count) the vamo or other variable wattage devices for a first step into upgraded mods. None of it is nearly as confusing as it seems, just a matter of getting a device and playing around. The battery life is great and when the batteries go bad you don't have to buy a whole new unit. Also, if you have a couple of batteries you can just charge them all in one day and bee good to go for a while.

I have a few different devices and like them all for different reasons. The VV ego type batteries you posted look nice (I haven't tried those myself) and seem to function about the same way as an ego twist/spinner would, which I use to go out and about.

As far as where to set a VV device, a good rule of thumb is to take the ohm of the coil and add 2, that is where you would want to start the voltage at. So, if you have a 2.4 ohm coil in the tank, try setting the voltage at 4.2. You can then play with it until it is what you want.

As far as VV being better for certain juices I'm not to sure. I find that the delivery device makes much more of a difference for the juice than voltage. I don't like hot vapor so I tend to stay on the low side of the settings but how the juice reacts will depend on how well it is wicked to the coil. Heavier VG juices might not wick as fast as thinner PG juices. I tend to use carto's for PG based juices, and rebuildable drippers for heavy VG. I just picked up a couple pro tanks a week or so ago and find that they work for any of the juices I like and they stay on my ego's.

The nice thing about VW is that, as mentioned before, it is much more "set it and forget it". You don't really have to know the ohm of the coil, you can set it to a wattage that you like and should only need minimal adjustment for different juices. I use this setting on my Vamo almost exclusively.

So, long ramble short, The batteries you found look good, any ohm coil will work as long as you just work your way up to the voltage you like and don't crank it up right off the bat. You might burn a couple coils getting use to it but it is just a bad taste, it isn't dangerous to my knowledge. You mentioned that you wanted a passthrough so if that is a deal breaker stick with it but I would look at a vamo or something similar. The battery like is great and has a few other options to it.

Hope that might help

 

[nomadicwookie]

I'm with Jwaterski. I've got a Vision Spinner Kanger EVOD combo & I love it.

 

[AttyPops]

Great write-up, AttyPops.

I'd be happy to help out to see it to completion. Just let me know where help is needed.

Just go to the thread and help work on it. Quote it and add stuff. You could, if you want, use a different color to help people know who did what so we can discuss changing it without ruffling feathers. There's more stuffis on the bottom for future topics. And thank you.

 

[MusicIsMySoul]

Wow thank you all so much for taking the time to reply!!! I'm definitely going to look into the VW!!!
Y'all are awesome!!!

 

[tonywh]

I have the very same battery you are looking at. I wanted it over some of the larger devices that are VW/VV. Just because it was easier to conceal and carry around. I love it. I have a 2.5 ohm coil and have the voltage set and locked in at 4.2 volts. Hits like a charm, and the battery lasts me all day. The price also was a huge factor in my decision. It was around the same price as some of the non-VV egos. Will I upgrade? Yes some day, but this is a good buy until you find a mod that you can't live without.