VV Mod for $45

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Miguel_tx

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Thanks Bill for your help. I actually have an ego that I use once those 2 batteries are dead, and yes it's got to be that battery that's defective, I already emailed the seller on amazon where I got them from, but that website you suggested has really good prices on the batteries thanks for the info.
 

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Thanks Bill for your help. I actually have an ego that I use once those 2 batteries are dead, and yes it's got to be that battery that's defective, I already emailed the seller on amazon where I got them from, but that website you suggested has really good prices on the batteries thanks for the info.

Miguel not all batteries are the same , they would have to be MATCHED to discharge at the same rate , If you are chain vaping and this is a Linear regulator ( I am sure it is for that price ) then they can drain really fast with any LR type atty or even regular ones when chain vaping , IMO the battery is fine .
What is the MAH rating on it ? and are they cheap off brand batts ? this will make a huge difference . You get what you pay for in most cases.
 

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Buzz,

I understand your points, and agree that with two batteries in series, one will almost invariably discharge faster than the other. In fact, I would think it extremely unlikely that both batteries would ever reach the protection circuit cut-off point of full discharge at the same time.

And yes, I know that switching regulators are much more efficient than linear LDOs and extend battery life between charge. I have a switching regulator in my Big Daddy, but all my other VV boxes use linear chips. Since I own one, I know for sure that Shan Burkholder uses linear regulators in her VV boxes (the subject of the original post in this thread).

I also accept that some folks swear by AW high-drain IMRs and strongly recommend always using the best batteries money can buy. That's fine. In real life, we're always weighing the you-get-what-you-pay-for truism versus best-bang-for-your-buck necessity. In my own experience, however, I haven't noticed any significant improvement in charged runtime with the AWs, nor any particular loss of performance with Trustfires, at least the two types I mentioned to Miguel. As far as I recall, the 3.7V Trustfire 18650s and 14500s received good ratings in brand comparison tests from the engineering types at Lighthound (which surprised some people who had assumed they would do poorly), so I don't know if you include those Trustfires in your designation of "off-brand."

Basically, in Miguel's situation as he described it, I think a second set of batteries is an easy way to troubleshoot the problem, not to mention that at least one more pair would be a good thing to have. If he chooses to buy AWs, good for him. I was just trying to help him out with an inexpensive source if he wanted to go that route.
 

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I'm a battery killer. I vape real heavy, use my device like a tobacco pipe. I consume about 250mAh in capacity every hour. So a VV device with two quaility 14500 batts and a linear regulator would probably run around 3 hours for me. The same batts in a mod with a switching regulator would run around 6 hours for me. There is that much of a difference between them in efficiency. So to Miguel_tx, I'm not sure what type of regulator that device uses, but if you vape like I do and the device uses the linear type, 3 hours is about all you'll get. As already mentioned, you should have another set of batteries anyway. Try another set and if they also run only 3 hours, you're just a real heavy vaper like me.

Even when matched, it's normal for batteries in series not to discharge exactly the same due to manufacturing tolerances in capacity and internal impedance. Also, when they get to the end of their chrarge they fall off quickly. However, as already mentioned, a huge difference could indicate a defective battery. Just try another set and you'll know for sure.
 
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Miguel_tx

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Thank you all for your input. I contacted the seller and they'll send a replacement and I went ahead and ordered 3 sets from deal extreme. One thing I did was mark the battery that the first time discharged all the way to 1.8 volts and it keeps doing it while the other one is still at 3.8 volts. I understand now that with the linear regulator one will drop down while the other one won't, but my question is, is it normal for the gap in voltage to be so big over 2 volts???
 

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Miguel not all batteries are the same , they would have to be MATCHED to discharge at the same rate , If you are chain vaping and this is a Linear regulator ( I am sure it is for that price ) then they can drain really fast with any LR type atty or even regular ones when chain vaping , IMO the battery is fine .
What is the MAH rating on it ? and are they cheap off brand batts ? this will make a huge difference . You get what you pay for in most cases.

What do you mean MATCHED?? The mAh is 900 and they are ULTRAFIRE.
 

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So these are linear regulators they're using. That's too bad, but the switching ones are 10 times the cost so there's that. Though, I'm sure people would be willing to pay an extra 10 bucks to double the run time.

yup, linear they are..... i wouldnts say 10x the cost, but they are more pricey, they are worth it 10x over though
 
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